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“The reason we sit low is because it is a sign of availus and has nothing to do with comfort.”
This is absolutely incorrect
See Yoreh Deah hilchos aveilus
Avi
Even before the Holocaust, there was a disdain for Yiddish. It was called Jargon.
Not sure why this is news. Sure anti senites exist. Mazel tov
“Ubi, President needs to lead, especially in international crises. See the discussion between Yidden and Shmuel regarding the King.”
I disagree (and the yidden were criticized) but I hear the perceived advantage of a strong executive unencumbered (Ok less encumbered) by laws.
What I dont understand is how this helps commies. Are you saying it helps foregign commies like china? Because that isnt what BY1212 said. s/he said
BY1212
“Typical communist dictatorial claptrap.”
I understand why people may feel an unencumbered executive with fewer checks and balances makes for better leadership
but how does limiting a President’s pwer or as you put it “handicap”ing him lead to a communist dicatorial claptrap?
CA
Happy to help“Why would anyone go to the zoo this chol hamoed?”
some people like zoos, many children do and even adults.” The only day that it’s not an erev something is Thursday”
There is no issur to go to a zoo on Erev shabbos or yom tov” and why waste it going to the zoo ”
Again, some people like the zoo“(especially since the Bronx zoo is only free on Wednesday)”
Wednesday is yom Tov, Orthodox Jews dont generally travel on yom tov, so the free zoo on Wednesday doesn’t help us. Plus many live far away from teh Bronx zoo, so much so that it may be cheaper than paying for their local zoo than to travel to the free Bronx zooSam
any idea why Hashem is using a Goyish numbering system to point to a passuk?
Moreover why is He referring to April as “4” is that being over an aseh according to the Ramban? I understand you don’t care for mitzvos but Hashem?
“This might be a fine point, the kind that you’d dismiss if you see it from a stranger but would give more thought of it came from someone you admire in some way. Therefore, I cannot help this last problem.”
This is the point we disagree. Your point is contrived. (iv’e heard it from others)
Why does an earthquake/comet/Thunder/lightning get a bercaha but eclipse doesnt?My answer: “I dont know why chazal didnt establish one” maybe its a siman ra? (rainbow is different the text of the veracha isnt on the rainbow per se rather on Hashem keeping His promise kivayachol) But I dont find this convincing, in short I dont know why.
your answer is because it isnt actively coming across Hashem’s creation and it doesnt explain display of His Power and Rule.
why not? kacha“The Yesod is very clear and it clears everything else. The Bracha is about coming across the Hand of Hashem.
There’s עושה מעשה בראשית blessings for when you come across original creations, and כחו וגברתו or דיין האמת when someone has come across the display of His Power and Rule, בורא מיני for witnessing His support.”
Eclipse seems to fulfill BOTH of these.
You aren’t explaining why an eclipse isn’t one of them
Why isn’t a horse galloping? Might be a good question but not the topic of this post
Halevai
“But a phenomenon which is not a mark of creation, nor a consumption of Hashem’s world, but an effect, doesn’t elicit a Bracha. In what way did you encounter Hashem’s hand now more than before? In fact, there are many enjoyments that we don’t bless Hashem upon enjoying them.”
Your explanation is a bit arbitrary, and seems forced to fit the conclusion.
Why isnt an eclipse part of creation? Who then set the sun and moon in motion?
Why is The blotting out of the sun midday less impressive than an earthquake?
which category does earthquake fall into is it a mark of creation or a consumption of Hashem’s world? It doesnt seem to fit your narrow criteria
ditto for a shooting star/comet ?Chazal said those get berachos and eclipse doesnt, so be it, but your categories seem a bit forced
““molad is not an astronomical observation, but simply adding a fixed average lunar month time that may be hours off a “real” rosh chodesh”
Potentially days off. The only rosh chodesh that is directly tied to the molad, is rosh chodesh Tishrei (better known as Rosh Hashanana).
If the molad occurs in the afternoon, , R”H is pushed to the next day. If the next day is sunday, Wednesday or Friday, R”H is pushed yet another day (Lo Adu Rosh)
so If the Molad occurs 12:01 noon on Shabbos. Rosh Hashana (“Rosh chodesh tishrei” ) will not begin until the start of Monday (ie sunday night) over a day later.
Molados of Teves and shevat in particulary can be off by a long time, over 2 days potentially(Of course even if the molad was exact, Rosh Hashana/rosh chodesh Tishrei occured on the day of the molad and an eclipse occurred, still wouldn’t recite Hallel on that day)
Avira
you do not dissapoint
You are now postign comments that you must know not to be true“Ubiq, do you think the chachamim would have fought the romans when they went to meet them? ”
Yes of coruse, you must have heard of Rabi akiva and Bar Kochaba
“Milchama was a strategy when feasible.”
Yes exactly, as I said“But did the zionists do the first two options? No – they were like the foolish baryonim who went straight to fighting.”
Again, you cant possibly know so little about Israel history, Balfour declaration was obtained without fighting, There was plenty of Zionist diplomacy“And during the Holocaust, fighting would have only ensured that no one survived r”l… Look at what happened in Warsaw.”
There were survivors from Warsaw ghetto uprising. there were (almost?) none from Treblinka
You cant possibly not know this but your wrong ideology forces you to cherry pick and even fabricate pointsI find it fascinating
Note at no point did I say fighting was ALWAYS the correct approach
Avira
You provide another great example of what I mentioned in my first comment
“The problem with these discussions is everyone has their preconceived notions and cherry picks Pieces mamarei chazal to fit .”you recently said “Smerel – that was AFTER the gezerah min hashomayim was batul and they were given permission to fight. If such a thing had happened during the Holocaust – great, but it didn’t”
Yet In one of your earliest posts in this thread YOU said “Chazal learned the parsha of Yaakov and eisav before meeting with the Roman rulers, to learn and remind themselves of the yesodos, the ways one must behave in galus to be safe.”
Of course Yaakov prepared for milchama, yet you cherry pick and deny milchama as an option
not to mention the idea of milchama is of course brought halacha lemaseh in Orach Chaim 329:6You have your preconceived notion which doesnt have to fit with halacha nor mamarei chazal that YOUI cited
It makes these conversations pointless, though fascinating
T
“It’s more than a bad idea, it’s an abrogation of the ratzon Hashem”
could be, but unlike a clear/cut and dry halcha, “ratzon Hashem” is harder to ascertain. That same gemara says all who live in chutz Laa’aretz is as they do Avoda zara, Zionists focus on thsi gemra and come up with tirutzim why the other isnt really Avodas Hashem you do the reverse. Im sure you have very creative tirutzim (probably better than the ones youve shared so far, – note I’m not asking you to share them Ive heard them before I rely on them, I dont live in EY)
AAQ
“With all talking past each other, there are some statements here that look like real debate!”
First half is correct
Second is not.
There is no real debate. There has been no new information uncovered. ALL the se arguments have been made over and over for over 70 years.
Nobody is changing minds.I do find it amusing though when in an effort to defend an untenable position all sorts of strange arguments get mad.
you do highlight a great one, that I pointed out earlier
You point # 3 though is only partially correct, the UN voted to create a State, the possessors who conquered Eretz Yisrael (the British) had tunred over the issue to the UN.
For reasons yet to be explained, although normally Kivush of land is a kinyan, this is an exceptionAvira
“Ubiq, you’re going back to the knee jerk “no issur no problem” thing. ”
nope, and I explicitly said that “So Its just a bad idea” I’m not sure on what planet “bad idea” means “no problem”
Avira
Your moving the goal posts
Lets back up
Square said “The Three Oaths are Agadic Midrash, and therefore they are
NOT Halachically obligatory [they are not legally binding].”UJM replied “he Oaths are quoted L’Halachah in numerous sources, including but not limited to: Piskei Riaz”
I commented how unusual this topic is, as I cant think of any other halachic discussion where a Piskei Riaz was te first mareh makom
You replied “is that they aren’t dinim, but they are realities that chazal warn us about.”
To which I replied “So Its just a bad idea, not assur.”
so we agree! . The shalosh shavuos are not a halchick issur in the classical sense, just like Square pointed out.
. Much like there is no halacha obligating one to engage in Tefila*/doron/milchama when in galus and dealing with goyim (your example, though one I was surprised to see you mention) , it is good advice, in fact the best advice, who else to get advice from, if our mesora. Same is true here,
As an aside the whole Ben Hecht thing is odd. Ben Hecht was an ardent Zionist. He was opposed to Labor Zionism, using his book as an anti-zionist argument is nonsensical
(* tefila of course is an obligaiton bshas tzara, but not because of Yaakov)
Avira
“Ubiq, there are many answers as to why it’s not mentioned in the rif, rosh and rambam’s yad. One of them, which my rebbe rav belsky said, is that they aren’t dinim, but they are realities that chazal warn us about. If we do X, we will he hunted, like the gemara says, as animals in the field. Slaughtered. And that’s precisely what happened.”
sure there are reasons for anything you want to be true. Though these reasons, like the one your Rebbe Z”L gave tend to be weak. you say thye “aren’t dinim” there goes the entire argument. So Its just a bad idea, not assur.
and the bad idea is further weekned when you consider that its not like there want Jew hunting going on in Europe pre State.
Again I’m not trying to convince you of anything. Though Hopefully you can see that these arguments tend to be a bit forced and built on preconceived notions. You arguments n this thread are PERFECT examples
BTW This works in both directions
The Satmar Rebbe had his shita, but R’ Aryeh Kaplan disagreed and he must be right because he “was a GENIUS, and his words should be listened to.”
The problem with these discussions is everyone has their preconceived notions and cherry picks Pieces mamarei chazal to fit .
I can’t think of any other issue where a “Piskei Riaz” is cited as THE first Halachic source. Never mind that it isnt brogught in Rif, Rosh Rambam (halachic works igeres teiman becomes Kodehs Kedoshim to fit the agenda), Tur, Mechaber . its a Piskei Riaz!
Another great example
“The Balfour declaration (and even the UN partition plan) are irrelevant because when the zionists took over, the british were no longer baalei batim on the land.”
It is hard to imagine a reasonable person making such an argument. It is clear that halacha recognizes kivush as a form of kinyan. Britain conquered Palestine, they handed the “problem” over to the UN the Un voted to create Israel. Simple, finished.
But no for this we ignore kivush and you need permission of neighboring countries. why? Because otherwise it doesn’t fit the preconceived agenda.I’m not trying to convinve you that you are wrong, I can’t. My point is when you see htese types of arguemnts (Especially the scond) we arent dealing with logic, rather emotion.
ujm
“Why would you say it doesn’t hold water?”for several reasons here a re a few:
1) I dont understand the connection to kibud av, because she is patur in kibud av she should forgo the oppurtunity to be mevatel potentially 70 year bad gzar din? Again. I’m not saying she is chayav to go. But if she isnt doing anything why doesnt she go? I dont get the kibud av connection
2) Even if patur generally women I know do mitzvos they are patur from sukkah, Lulav shofar . (With a beracha). So ok they are “patur” from saying amen yehi shemie rabba becasue of some hekish? gezeira shava? Mah matzinu? to kibud av, why not do it anyway
3) If her husband isnt makpid she is chayav in kibud av
4) It doesnt answer why single/divorced women dont generally goUJM
non of your minor points hold water
1) At a chasuna it’s usually difficult to have an area for a minyan where you can have a mechitza.
I’m not sure that an ad hoc minyan needs a mechitza, and even if want one EVERY chasuna Ive been to has had a mechitza, and even if for whatever reason that mechitza cant be used (band is noisy or something) ok so they dont daven stand quietly answer amen yehei shmei rabba
2) And, while it might involve less effort than taking care of multiple children, even after the children left the house the wife’s first obligation is to serve her husband. (That’s the reason she’s halachicly exempt from Kind Av V’Eim, while married, since she must serve her husband first.)
agree, I’m limiting my question to when she isnt engaged in prior commitments say Friday night the table is set, the food is warming why not go down the block to chap arein an amen yehei shmei rabba or 2
Its a good question
Although clearly not a chiyuv. what a zechus, Amen Yehey shemie rabba can destroy a bad gzar din, oopurtunity to say kedusha even a “simple” amen.
I understand when there are children at home, that is her primary tafkid but for the majority of her life often there is a shul close by instead of sitting around at home why not get extra easy zechusim.
It is very puzzling
Strangest of all, is when they are there. At a chausna or simcha there is often a minyan formed the women are there they can join answer amen etc , instead they hang around and shmooz yet it isnt even on the radar. I find this very strange
It is hard to imagine how many Jewish lives would have been lost in the past few months alone, not to mention the past decade or so if not for the Iron dome which Obama is responsible for
Obama has likely save more Jewish lives than any individual since Esther Hamalka.
Cant even begin to imagine the zechus he must have
Fun game!!
“If you were a non-Jew, would you want your town or city,
where you have lived your entire life, to become like Boro Park?”– I would want a country where people are free to live where they want
“Would you want all the stores to be closed on Saturdays and Jewish Holidays?”
– I would want people to be free to open and close their stores whenever they want
“Would you want kosher food stores,
where the prices are higher than for non-kosher foods?”– I would want store owners to proice thier foods as they please
” Would you want public signs in a language that you do not understand?”
All Public municipal signs should be in english plus whatever language there is a need/demand for“Would you want all your neighbors to speak Yiddish or Hebrew?
And even when they speak English,
they use many words that you do not understand?”I would want them to speak whatever they want
“Would you want all your neighbors to be people who
are not interested in forming meaningful friendships
with non-Jews, or even talking to non-Jews?”I would want to be friendly with them
“Would you want to live in a place where most
celebrations and events are for Jews-ONLY?”
Private events can be for whoever is invited“Would you want to become a minority in
the place where you lived your entire life?”– I wouldn’t want other groups baned or restricted
Just becasue you are biggoted doesnt mean all goyim are, or more importantly that they should be.
Let me know if you have any other questions“If you were a non-married non-Jew,
would you want all your neighbors to be people
who you could never marry or even date?”– I wouldn’t want there to be some restriction that my neighbors can only be people I’d date, that sounds creepy to even suggest
Would you want to be used as a “Shabbos Goy”?”
sureLashon kodesh is read Right to LEft
So Sinwar is actually Rawnis
Raw because he is a gangster who doesnt fully cook his food rather eats it partly raw like Ben Drosai
Nis because he has a life steeped in chet , chet is gematria egoz which is a type of nut or nis in Yiddish
Funnybone
1. Why isn’t it a psik reisha dnicha lei?
– OF course its nicha lei, You want the compressor to turn on when the fridge gets warm, thats how fridges work. If it doesnt do that you need a new fridge.
2. If it’s lo niche lei, can you rely on it or only Al yidei akum?
– No psik reisha delo nicha lei is not automatically mutarMeno is right on older fridges where it takes some time for compressor to go on, so not neccerarliy if you open fridge for short while would it trigger the compressor thus it wasnt a psik reisha.
Today though apparently there are all sort of monitor and sensors that are triggered ever tiem door opens, it isnt just the light/compressor.
As for keeping it in Shabbos mode all the time, the manuals all say that ruins the fridge which makes sense, these functions are there for a reason
UJM
Its been a while
Yes BH success
did you ever get the present I sent you years back? It was a Yoreh deah chelek beis .
Hope your using itRE
“We add 14 from 2100”
Yes my #5 is wrong I tried to repost without it but both went up
“So let’s use the rule that it is Dec 4th. except before a leap year when it is Dec 5th.”
Yep that is the rule.
AaQ I don’t understand .
The calculation doesn’t work because it isn’t the way to calculate.
It’s 60 days from tekufas Tishrei using Tekufas Shmuel. Not 61 days from the autumnal equinox. Yes they often overlap but shpukdnt expect them to be the same .
Tekufas Shmuel is known to be flawed There is a more accurate tekufa of Rav Ada, bit we font use it for this because too complicated (Chazon Ish says this)I just realized a mistake “I made
I got the dates from “timeanddate . com”The times given are Coordinated universal time which is 5 hours ahead of New York time.
Thus for New york the above dates are not accurate
Some chnage to become correct for youfor example last year 2022, equinox was Sep 23 01:03 UTC (which results in incorrect Dec 5th) but in NY this was Sep 22 9:03 PM (which results in correct Dec 4th)
Nonethless my point still stands:
1) Your rule is limited to certian time zones, making it not such a good rule, in London my list above with the 14% error rate is correct.
2) Correcting for time difference makes some of your years more correct (eg 2022 becomes right)
Others become wrong, for example 2039 in London your system works : Equinox will be Sep 23 03:49 UTC which results in Dec 5th according to both your system and the halachic one. but in NY the Equinox will be few hours earlier (local time) Sep 22 11:48 PM which would lead to Dec 4 start date using your system while Dec 5th using the halachic system (though to be fair it is more accurate in NY than in London )3) If you use it as a cute trick that usually works fine. But this is a-halachic in Halacha when counting days we always (almost?) count the first day as day 1. If you say ignore that and just add 60 it works fine. but to make it sound like this is how the cheshbon works when it is not true makes me squeamish.
4) You say “I am trying to find an easy way of calculating.”
This is the part I really don’t get, it is much easier to check your siddur and see “Start saying Vesein Tal umatar on Dec 4t hat MAariv unless it is before a leap year in whcih case it is Dec 5th” or google “When do we start” seems os much easier than relying on your method although it usually works.
Who is this easy calculation for?
for those who want to understand how Dec 4th was chosen and why this year its Dec 5th give them the correct answer. Who gains from your incorrect sytem (although it usually works)?5) Your system will fall apart in 2100
I just realized a mistake “I made
I got the dates from “timeanddate . com”The times given are Coordinated universal time which is 5 hours ahead of New York time.
Thus for New york the above dates are not accurate
Some chnage to become correct for youfor example last year 2022, equinox was Sep 23 01:03 UTC (which results in incorrect Dec 5th) but in NY this was Sep 22 9:03 PM (which results in correct Dec 4th)
Nonethless my point still stands:
1) Your rule is limited to certian time zones, making it not such a good rule, in London my list above with the 14% error rate is correct.
2) Correcting for time difference makes some of your years more correct (eg 2022 becomes right)
Others become wrong, for example 2039 in London your system works : Equinox will be Sep 23 03:49 UTC which results in Dec 5th according to both your system and the halachic one. but in NY the Equinox will be few hours earlier (local time) Sep 22 11:48 PM which would lead to Dec 4 start date using your system while Dec 5th using the halachic system (though to be fair it is more accurate in NY than in London )3) If you use it as a cute trick that usually works fine. But this is a-halachic in Halacha when counting days we always (almost?) count the first day as day 1. If you say ignore that and just add 60 it works fine. but to make it sound like this is how the cheshbon works when it is not true makes me squeamish.
4) You say “I am trying to find an easy way of calculating.”
This is the part I really don’t get, it is much easier to check your siddur and see “Start saying Vesein Tal umatar on Dec 4t hat MAariv unless it is before a leap year in whcih case it is Dec 5th” or google “When do we start” seems os much easier than relying on your method although it usually works.
Who is this easy calculation for?
for those who want to understand how Dec 4th was chosen and why this year its Dec 5th give them the correct answer. Who gains from your incorrect system (although it usually works)?For fun I redidi it using NEw York
Equinox – Correct date – your date – match?
2000 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2001 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2002 Sep 23 Dec 4 Dec 5 N
2003 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2004 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2005 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2006 Sep 23 Dec 4 Dec 5 N
2007 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2008 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2009 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2010 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 5 Y
2011 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2012 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2013 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2014 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 5 Y
2015 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2016 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2017 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2018 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 5 Y
2019 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2020 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2021 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2022 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 5 Y
2023 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2024 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2025 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2026 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 5 Y
2027 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2028 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2029 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2030 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2031 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2032 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2033 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2034 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2035 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2036 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2037 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2038 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2039 Sep 22 Dec 5 Dec 5 N
2040 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2041 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2042 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2043 Sep 22 Dec 5 Dec 5 N
2044 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2045 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2046 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2047 Sep 22 Dec 5 Dec 5 N
2048 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2049 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 YThe accuracy of your system goes up slightly it is 88% accurate. wrong only 6/50 times
I randomly grabbed the first 50 years of this century
Here are the dates of the Autumnal equinox, followed by the correct date for start of vesein tal umatar (some of these are Friday night when of course start is delayed for an unrelated reason)
Followed by the start date using your system followed by a Y if the y match and N if they don’t.They are aligned 43/50 which is 86% pretty good but as a “rule” to keep sharing when it is wrong 14% of the tme I think you should stop sharing your system
Equinox – Correct date – your date – match?
2000 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2001 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2002 Sep 23 Dec 4 Dec 5 N
2003 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2004 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2005 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2006 Sep 23 Dec 4 Dec 5 N
2007 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2008 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2009 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2010 Sep 23 Dec 4 Dec 5 N
2011 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2012 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2013 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2014 Sep 23 Dec 4 Dec 5 N
2015 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2016 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2017 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2018 Sep 23 Dec 4 Dec 5 N
2019 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2020 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2021 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2022 Sep 23 Dec 4 Dec 5 N
2023 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2024 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2025 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2026 Sep 23 Dec 4 Dec 5 N
2027 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2028 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2029 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2030 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2031 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2032 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2033 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2034 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2035 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2036 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2037 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2038 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2039 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2040 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2041 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2042 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2043 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2044 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2045 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2046 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2047 Sep 23 Dec 5 Dec 5 Y
2048 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y
2049 Sep 22 Dec 4 Dec 4 Y(I did this by hand so there might be a typo or error or 2, though doesnt change my overall point)
RE it is against an explicit Remah
See OC 117:1
Mechaber says we say it on the 60th day after the Tekufa
The Remah says the day of the tekufa is included.
The Mishna Berura points out that there is always 2 days between the day of the tekufa and the day we say vesein tal umatar. His example is if the Tekufa was Sunday then we start vesein tal umatar at Maariv of yom revviii (Ie Tuesday night). This is not wah twe did according to your incorrect caclulation. Sept 23 was Shabbos, if this was the tekufa we would have started Monday nightDo you not remeber discussing this last year? and the year before? and before?
soem of the comments are in this threadRE
As in every year past your calculation is wrong.R Aron Feldman shlita said bal habatim (as opposed to yeshiva leit) SHOULD go
Its hard to imagine the how mcuh worse current war without the Iron dome, that Obama had requested funding for
Obama has likely saved more Jewish lives than anyone in history since Mordechai and Esther. Thank you Hashem for sending us this shliachthe Ribono shel Olam is a Democrat
He is the Malbish arumim, someich noflim, zokef kifufim.try to emulate the Ribono shel Olam, its a mitzva Deoraysa Veholachta bidrachav. Mah hu Rachum af ata rachum
““Conferring with a Torah expert on matters that do not relate to halacha or hashkafa” An example would be asking a talmid chacham business advice.
Does anyone like that?”
Not really because it is lacking some critical elements:
1) Is this a form of Ruach Hakodesh? or Is it that learnign torah sharpens your mind so you can grasp things quickly and covers many facets of life so have a grasp of Human relationships, business etc? Or something in between?
Meaning the idea that if you explain say the pros and cons of different shiduchim to a Rebbe who knows you well, it is very logical that he can help guide you. I don’t think this is particularly controversial and wouldnt really promt arguemtns over whther here is such a thing. Just like your accountant can help guide you which medical treatment makes more financial sense for you.
That was my trouble with the OP’s example. R’ Yochanan met R’ Zeira he met his own daughter. I dont understand why his suggesting a shidduch shows somesort of special power gained through Torah?2)assuming there is such a thing as Daas torah is is there some sort of imperative to listen.
These points have been debated ad nasueum, and dont really interest me (any more).
Im caught up on the specific example providedAAQ
“here r Yohanan is the godol hador and he tells you this is a good shidduch, would you not listen?! and to add to that – his own daughter …”
So all shadchanim who propose a shidduch have daas Torah? Is it only if they propose a shiduch to their daughter?
I don’t get itHe saw a talmid chacham, so he wanted him as a son in law. what does that have to do wit hdaas Torah?
I don’t understand.
Maybe I’m not sure what daas Torah is, suggesting a shiduch is daas Torah?The R’ Yitzchok he mentions long predates Rashi’s father
“It is typical for a goverment and its leader to resign, voluntarily or involuntarily, when a horrible attack occurs on that government’s watch. … he must be replaced ASAP. Just to be clear, I am not a resident of Israel or eligible to vote there.”
That is not typical at all. In fact it sounds crazy reckless and dangerous
AFTER things quiet down and appropriate investigations are launched then if in fact blame lies with him and government (and very well might ) then he should resign.
It is nuts to suggest he resign now
Yom Kippur war occurred in October 1973 . Golda MEir did not resign until April 74
Sam
I love letzanus as muc has the next person, (maybe not so much Erev Rosh Hashana)
But even when trying to be funny, you have to be careful that tyour posts don’t enter kefira territory“Nissan was the first month like it says directly in the Torah then:..”
what do you mean “was”? the Tiorah never changes R”l. Nissan was and is the first month. This has nothing to with when the year starts.
“a)the new year would start from 1 Nissan changing over to the new year and not 6 months ”
This is incorrect. Look at the gemara in the begining of Rosh Hashana the gemara goes different Rosh hashanas. “Hachodesh Harishion” Is Nissan period. IT doesnt change depedning on wehther you are talking about new year for Kings, baal teacher etc.
I’ll give you a mashal if you find this confusing. Throughout the country schools recently began. It is the beginning of the school year. Yet when teachers wrote the date today they wrote 9/14. does that mean its the 9th month of the school year? Of course not. The first month of the school year is September the ninth month. Just becasue a new year starts doesnt mean the month count resets. They don’t label September 14th as 1/14 becasue it is the first month of the school year. The counting of months and the start of a year have notign to do with each other
L’havdil soon we begin a new year. The new year begins with Tishrei the 7th month, “Hachodesh hashevii” as we will be laining in maftir on R”H, Y”K and throughout sukkos
“Av is 11 אלול is 12 & תשרי is 1, how does that grab you? How does that shock you?”
It shocks me that a ostensibly frum person can no so little about the Jewish calendar and possibly be over an aseh
“Hachodesh hazeh lachem roch chadashim” Nisan is the first month. Av is the fifth (“Tzom hachamishi”) not the 11th. Tishrei is not the first month, calling it the first month is at best wrong, and possibly a bitel aseh (according to the Ramban)
yungerman
So true we all know how muhc Hshem hates abbrevitions and that is why Misah exists. IF we ju
Please help end the gezeira of misa, avoid writing ZT”L
Maybe if we just take a few seconds extra to give the proper respect for tzaddikim who devoted their entire life to Torah and klal yisroel-by writing it in full instead of just in short ZT”L-then Hashem will stop taking away these holy tzaddikim from us.
Its a power that you get if bitten by a radioactive Birchas Shmuel
Sorry about that Avram not Avira
Huju
no the comments state that “Jew” has taken on a negative meaning that “Jewish” has not.
Would you agree that when used as an attributive form of a noun * as in “Jew Lawyer” or “jew bakery” in Avira’s example it is probably being used pejoratively?
to play it safe some use “Jewish” all the time, since it doesnt have that same connotation Jewish Lawyer, Jewish Bakery
(note this is not inherently grammatically incorrect, nouns can be used to modify other nouns eg business meeting, research paper you don’t NEED to use an adjective)
I don;t feel strongly either way
but the concern of those gentiles makes senseUnfortunately Jew has taken on some negative meanings.
There have been a couple such stories involving Google search over the yearsfor example in Dec 2022 the first hit on Google for “Jew” was the definition: “”Bargain with someone in a miserly or petty way.”
this was the first resultA while ago the leading results included antisemitic websites such as Jew Watch.
At the time it was noted that “Jewish” did not result in the same offensive resultsAs a result of thsi “defitnion of Jew and as a result of Antisemites choosing the term Jew as the subject of their hate (often with a snarl) “polite” Goyim have shifted towards using Jewish PErson.
Many poskim hold their is no issur to steal from bears
Goldilocks
thanks that makes sense
I didn’t consider that.