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  • in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145694
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    Haleivi and bzbody: from ancient times? Maybe, maybe not, but not likely into modern times. My zaide was a wandering litvak, and he, like the bnai binyamin, did not have a shin in his speech. I have met not a few sfardi that dont distinguish between shin smoli or yemani. The Radak on the shiboles/siboles passage writes: “… because they would mispronounce ( megamgemim) the letter shim, perhaps the air of their land caused them this, such as the people of France who don’t understand to pronounce a “sin” and read it like a tav rafeh”. Now we can unscientifically speculate, based on the end of Hoshea, that the residents of Jerusalem were gole to espania, and a large number of others, mostly not from Yehuda was the nucleus of galus Ashekenaz. A tangential support, is the greater distribution of Kohanim in the benei Mizrach. If the galus Ashkenaz, followed the Roman conqeust, that would put the orignal golim in Gaul, Rhine, and in the the British Islands, ( Bag-pipes are mentioned in Mishne Kelim) it is a slim possiblity that unique dialects of the outer settlements of bayis sheni persisted in the early wandering, and filtered through the “local influences” of later wanderings.( as in not having the authentic tav dagush either)

    in reply to: Thanksgiving: Church Holiday #1146248
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    I think Washington was one cool guy. He could have been a respected Maggid if born and raised in a different place. On turkeys, I did some reading that raised alarms in my poor head. The modern bird, like its chicken cousin is raised in time and conditions to be mass market profitable. This means a chicken from hatch to market can take no more than seven weeks. The turkeys obviously take somewhat longer, but still rushed so that the weight gain outstrips other critical development, and this leads to a not insignifigant number of birds with underdeveloped circulatory and nervous systems relative to the weight ( non walking and heart attack prone). They are also bred to be front heavy, and due to this, they cannot mate normally, production is completely dependent on AI. I asked a rov about the possible treifa safek, and he did not dismiss it as of zero concern. You would assume that the kashrus operator would screen out sickly specimens, but in the modern mechanized high speed rotary set up with the birds hanging, (and perhaps hung up by a stam worker, is there not room for errors and concern?

    in reply to: Rivka's Age When She Married Yitzckak #716629
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    Derech Hamelech; the mareh mokom is in Divrei Hayamim 1:20, the progeny from Kalev to Bezalel. Rashi comments (based on know values from elsewhere) ” go and calculate that they all were less than 8 at becoming parents.”

    in reply to: Shtreimels #1045432
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    I have been to a streimel fabrik in Jerusalm (in my professional capacity- being a very straight laced litvak) and I saw on the workbench the raw material ermine (sable?) tails pinned up on a rack. The were flat black with a bright white tail tip. I asked the operator about this and he said yes, they dye the white, and for brown tones, they bleach. I asked if they could do all white, and he said yes, they could, but there is no market. I asked even rebbishe for YT? Not even rebbishe. Some people just have no sense of style.

    in reply to: Thanksgiving: Church Holiday #1146198
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    quite amazing how they communicated in “English?”

    in reply to: Borsalino Hat #1082693
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    Way back when I was a bochur, there was an old hatter in Jersey City that advertised in the Jewish Press, a one or two line add that told of cheap hats for Yeshiva guys. I made the trip out there on the Path train, into a dying low life neighborhood. The business was in a huge industrial building stuffed with every thing you could call a hat in every color of the rainbow. He must have serviced the movie industry and the Mardi Gras as well. Still, true to the add, he had Yeshivish, and MO hats (time was when lots of MOs wore hats). For $12 and $15 I got two hats with Stetson ( real or fake I don’t know) bands and liners. One is still in the family as a Purim hat. It was real good stuff. I would also love to find old stock of the 3/4-1″ brims. Occasionally you see such an antique, and they are way cool.

    in reply to: Common Mistakes In Davening #1150267
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    “Rivka doesn’t appear in davening ever”

    Rivka appears in the misheberach for women, in the bracha for children, and in crossword style in the second column third letter place in the yomin noraim arrangement of ‘bfi yeshorim, in bold type in the older mahzorim.

    in reply to: Common Mistakes In Davening #1150266
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    Poppa bar: I wouldn’t term it “looney Ashkenazim”. Differential between alef and ayin are referenced in S.A.

    in reply to: Common Mistakes In Davening #1150265
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    You can often see severely organized people fall into the following trap: Open talis bag, remove talis, remove tefillin, once everything out out (arranged of course) on the table, they take the talis to put it on. This violates ain maavirim al hamitzvos. The same applies where the person honored with pesicha lifts one sefer and then is directed to take a different sefer. There are also grammar/nikud/punctuation peculiarities in Nusach Ashkenaz on which I can’t comment as a chashud bedavar. My mesorah is to correct them.

    in reply to: Borsalino Hat #1082685
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    Showing our age and ‘cultural baggage’

    in reply to: Anyone Have A Delicious Challah Recipe? #1210915
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    weighing in from the guys who cook tread. My sourdough is far far removed from the puffy, white, oil, egg, and sugar heavy creations, but a few of my “enhancements” go well in any bread.

    a) best for white breads where it not only tastes but shows, rehydrated short snips of roesmary a tablespoon to 5lb batch.

    b)best for ww or other heavy dark bread, onion poppy. Cut onions into uniform small bits, dicing stam give too much large chunks. Set on a slanted cutting board and salt with about a teaspoon of coarse salt, slant board and let it sweat and drain overnight. You should leave the approximate amount of salt used out of the main recipe. Before use, sprinkle some sugar to give it some gooeyness, add poppy until it mixes between grey and black. Flatten out a portion of dough, spread a spoon or two onto it and roll up. Cross roll it once of twice and form into a loaf. The last move puts a strip of filling into each slice.

    Onion board. Roll dough into 3/4 to 1″ logs. Lay out with curls and wiggles on a greased cookie sheet, spooning the onion mix onto and inbetween logs. Done right, there generally will be no leftovers. Bteiavon.

    in reply to: Driveway Blocking In Borough Park #710511
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    On “the Am I wrong on this” I was going to ask: Is this in Brooklyn?

    I held back because it could be taken as LHR against the community, but the common root and toeles is this: Living in any large city community leads to a degree of anonymity, and the anonymity can lead to shamelessness. In our weak generation, it is wise to be on guard for this pitfall. Perhaps the institution of universally teaching Mussar from young age would help.

    in reply to: Goodbye friends! #710202
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    And the inability to accept Tochacho. Nekudah.

    in reply to: Am I Wrong About This? #710342
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    OP, you are no lower than them. YOU have the sensitivity and the middos they lack. Derech erext kadma ltorah is basically a dead idea in some places, and for Azus Ponim like this WE TOSS KIDS OUT OF SCHOOL because rotten middos are contagious!

    in reply to: Crazy Kabbalah Co-Workers #719761
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    There was an article in a known Mag that featured (favorably) a woman in EY that chases away ayin hara by pouring molten lead from container to container over the persons head. I wrote in that aside from the karov la’avoda zara aspect, she was endangering peoples lives, given the toxicity of lead, lead fumes, and the danger of a spill accident. It was not publish, she had the hascoma of some local Rabbanim. Stick to the daled amos of halacha folks. Please.

    in reply to: Goodbye friends! #710196
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    There is a world in which “yeshivish” connotes educated, refined middos, openmindedness, and there is nebach an “ugly yeshivish” of insularity, fear of the other, nitzchoniyus, and other lowly middos. I understand what Moq is leaving for. I have been attacked in machlokes leshem machlokes. It leaves a bad taste when too many posts do not deserve the dignity of a response.

    in reply to: Closet Cooks, Men In The Kitchen #826944
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    deiyezzoger: in the Life Experience Dept: Birth 1.5 day prior to RH, and one 2days prior to YK. Both times they kept her. Where there are no women…cook, and try to fill those small shoes.

    in reply to: Closet Cooks, Men In The Kitchen #826943
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    I started out young cooking for myself in a no frills yeshiva dorm, early in marriage, I made the Shabbat chicken, and salad. Seeing my Mrs. spend inordinate amount of time baking challa, I took that over, and for many years now I bake sourdough whole grains bread for shabbat. I then started cooking stuff for me, a new vegetarian, and it kind of took off. Now that the Mrs. is unable, I cook everything for shabbat, with just some help for cakes. Zack K, did we ever cross paths? Our kind is a rare sighting.

    in reply to: Strangest Thing You Have Ever Eaten #1020709
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    seaweed, rose hips, tree bark, raw schav( sourgrass) alpine strawberry (the best) acorn patty, (not recommended) dandelion leaves, dandelion root, home pickled herring. I am not the furthest you can go off the beaten track. I have an acquaintance whot forages for edible weeds.

    in reply to: Tu B'Av – & Dancing #709307
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    It is not just the Mihna. The issue replayed in the closing discussion of the masechta. What are we to do with historical account that has no halachic uploads? Here is one approach:

    Rambam, introduction to Mishne Torah paragraph Udvarim hallalu b’dinim gezeros ve’takonos… “but all the things in the Bavli gemara are incumbent on all Israel to follow them, and we instruct (force) every city and city and every medinah to hold by these customs,all the customs which the sages of the gemara followed, and to decree their decrees and to follow their enactments.” (translation mine) The Rambam is telling us that we are creatures of the Bavli, and all the non Halachic text is the instructions for minhag and societal structure and culture. I am not aware of a gemara that gives as clear a program for shadchanus as we have it today. And the Mishne calls them joyous days, because the system apparently worked well. The trouble is how to recast this in our advanced stage of alienation from the lifestyle of then.

    in reply to: Over-Educated Girls #713107
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    Lomed: you are becoming a laughingstock with your broad brushed calumny about the spiritual health of others. And your comments of “part of Himself and connecting to God Himself are approaching MINUS if not already there, despite the Zohar and kaveyochols. Fundamentalism can lead you in funny directions.

    in reply to: Dose of reality: Kids kicked out of school #709016
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    I sincerely nominate Aries for Mashgicha Ruchnis for this forum.

    WIY: It is an azus ponim of you to talk to the Mashgicha that way, and to claim that because someone is 50 something, they are out of touch with present realities. You fail to accept wise counsel.

    in reply to: Sick and tired of spoiled cholov yisroel milk #708325
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    Nobody wants my recipe?

    in reply to: Over-Educated Girls #713102
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    Poppa bar Abba and Dr Charlie. There are exceptions to every rule. (a hard concept for some) There was Devorah, a public purveyor of Torah, the legendary cases of women with rosh yeshiva qualifications lecturing the wise from behind a curtain, and the common fairy tales of the quick witted, sharp tongued Rabbi’s daughter. The issue remains, it is akin to, or worse than tzaar baal chai, to deny a person with intellectual gifts opportunity to use them, be they male or female. My best suggestion, if she is rejected by small thinking guys or she is turned off by them, there are highly educated, serious bnei Torah on the frummer end of the MO rainbow.

    in reply to: Sick and tired of spoiled cholov yisroel milk #708315
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    Shlomo Zalman! not exactly poison. This is the western throw away society mindset. As posted elsewhere, spoiled milk is just milk on its way to the next step. When unmanaged, is smells and tastes bad and might have some nasty bacteria in it. In poorer society, they just add something to add a better flavor, and then cook it to kill the unfriendly bacteria. The protein changes some, but it is too precious to toss in some places and times. Think spicy curd kugel.What do you think Little Miss Muffet was eating?

    in reply to: Why we must support Torah financially to the best of our ability #707834
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    Behold the support of Torah thread drifts into the Dose of Reality thread. Must be our work over there was not completed.

    in reply to: Dose of reality: Kids kicked out of school #708987
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    Far more worrisome and likely more often it is not a case of drugs, porn, talking/hanging our with boy/girl. Consider the following scenario, names and places deleted to protect the victim and the abuser. Say there is a 16yo girl, doing something ok in all innocence but it appears to the not fully informed yenta that chaos and mayhem are afoot. The false report gets to the Menaheles’s ears,the student is called to the kangaroo interrogation and sent home. The Menaheles has listened to lashon hara, and acted to the child’s detriment and endangermment. The 16yo knows this, because that this is an elementary lesson in lhr that was taught to her well over the years. This telegraphs a message to the child that only the strongest will not succumb to. Does this happen. You bet.

    Case two: Parents of perfectly comported young lady happen to live in a large spiffy house above the Jerusalem average standard, and horror of horrors, the own a car, and are anglophones to boot. Poppa teaches in a yeshiva and mother works. The young lady is one day summarily kicked out. Poppa calls in but is stonewalled. After a week of banging on doors, he is admitted to a meeting where the headmistress pantomimes indicating her solid information that they own a TV (they don’t), and she doesn’t budge. Miffed, Poppa starts pulling strings, and thankfully he has connection to some muscular Rabbanim that force the headmistress to back down. 16yo readmitted armed with the realization that THE BIG REBBITZEN acts on innuendo. Weeks later, the 16yo’s 3rd grade sister ( same institution)) is summarily kicked out. Again, outside forces must be brought to bear on the school. 16 year old learns and indelible lesson that her superiors engage in lashon hara and have a flair for nekama. 3rd grader gets an early lesson in tzaddik ve’rah lo. There are of course two sides to every story, but clearly, there are people is positions of authority that can be hazardous to our childrens neshomos.

    in reply to: Bungalow colony recommendations #707846
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    Is not coffee room a yeshivish bungalow colony gone electronic and run amok?

    in reply to: music to enhance tefilla/tehillim #707688
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    A maybe different answer: Tehillim has its own music. You may have seen a Tehillim with taamim, the cantillation notes These are the Taamei Emet (unique to Iyov Mishle and Tehillin. They are not so easy to learn once your are familiar with standard taamim, and Ashkenazim don’t have a mesorah for how they sound, but among the Sfardim, there is an almost alive, not quite lost mesorah of the sound. I have heard from a Chacham Gadol, that the commas and phrasing of some editions is in conflict with that decreed by the taamim.

    in reply to: Sick and tired of spoiled cholov yisroel milk #708301
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    And, there is growing acknowledgement the MILK and COOKIES are BAD for you. Milk, because metabolizes to an acid, because there more than recognized allergy to some of the proteins, and because the calcium in milk is way less body accessible than calcium in say, yum yum spinach. Cookies are getting bad press because of the sugar and trans fats. So enjoy your spinach and fat free low cal cookies.

    To ease Wolfs angst, regarding metaphorically, so to speakingly insult Hashem by abstaining from milk, perhaps we are not meant to drink bovine milk, and the eretz zavat chalov udvash refers to goat milk, which incidentally metabolizes alkaline.

    in reply to: Sick and tired of spoiled cholov yisroel milk #708296
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    oilom k’mihogo noheig. Ah the memories. I worked a lifetime ago as a teen as the shclepper in a Chassidic grocery in the Catskills. Skin and bones as I was, I hauled 40 cases a day of milk (yes that brand) from the sidewalk to the walk in refrige, and then out to the customers. It was trucked from Mountaindale (far away) and left on the sidewalk at some time before I got there at 7:00, and the only place in the store not 90 degrees was the walk in. The distributor guaranteed the milk, but he wanted the spoiled stuff back. So people brought back marginally spoiled milk, and we stored it OUTSIDE THE COOLER for the return trip to the distributer. I could have had a masters in cheesemaking had I been paying closer attention, but I was working too hard, including defending my self esteem. I was called Yankel by the boss though I had a real name, and when his daughter at the register had to address me, it was “you”. Language and cultural barriers of great height. Seriously, milk at 60F begins to degrade, and the damage is cumulative (mitztaref) So if it sits a bit on the way into the truck, and them some on the way out, and then some on the was to the cold case, its freshness time is shortened. And you need 90f to make cheese.

    in reply to: Yated, Hamodia, Jewish Press? What Is Your Choice? #707647
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    Mw, would you like to elaborate on what is illogical or intolerant, I was not very explicit with shitos or people in an effort to be polite in a forum that sorely lacks politeness, lately.

    in reply to: Brachos on Pizza #984782
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    So Hello, how many colossals go in to the average or large egg or achilas pras. The theory postulated was very un niskatnu hashiurim. Next time you have pizza, try squashing it into a ml gradated measure. I will do the same, and we can compare slice statistics.

    in reply to: Malchus Yisro'el #707534
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    are you smoking something stale, myfreind? Upended? lost chance? clearly indicated? drivel? You seem to read a lot into plain Q&A. Were you the class bully as a child?

    in reply to: Yated, Hamodia, Jewish Press? What Is Your Choice? #707642
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    jakyweb: not to be relied on always, but a good rule of thumb in a civil debate is to watch closely when the ad hominum attacks and uncivil comments begin and from what direction. What you are fighting is the disease of creeping isms defended by insecure and frightened people. Note that as yet you did not receive an apology fron the “ben torah” nor was “helpful” very polite. The discourse will not always be rational and you will see the circling of the wagons. Part of the fear of old pictures is that it doesn’t exactly confirm the positions of todays chumradom . A corollary discussion ( old thread maybe) of mixed seating at functions (other than smachot) follows the same pattern. Gedolim of yesteryear saw the segregation train comming, and they voiced discomfort with it. Good luck with your daughters and granddaughters education. May they turn out to be Nshei Chayil.

    in reply to: Supporting Avoda Zara #707498
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    “is not meant to be taken by us commoners literally” courtesy of TamMHO. Of course this doesn’t stop many who should know better from publsihing snippets of Zohar wherever they please, including in the siddur.

    Case in point: I shop for shabbos in the shuk mahane Yehuda, where a collector for a Kabbalist Yeshiva collects on frequent rounds that coincide with my shopping. I figure they learn standard Torah there, so I give a five, ten or twenty shekel donation. He obviously gets generally less, because he is more than happy to see me. He always offers a receipt, which I refuse, saying receipts are from shamayim. I also refuse the leaflets he always offers for shabbos reading, claiming I have enough to read, and I hurry away. Once he caught me sitting down at a local Mincha, and I accepted the leaflet. I found in it a small piece, a quote from Zohar, on a pasuk in Emor that applied a clear reference to Hashem to a certain person. To me, the commoner, this seems like outright kefira if nothing worse. I need a shayla chochom about continuing to give this mosad tzedaka.

    in reply to: Chanuka II #944455
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    Minyan Gal: Also possibly causal is the Zionist Entity ( may it prosper and be well)took it mistakenly as a secular militaristic holiday, and imagined themselves to be the new Maccabees. The old Macabees might have voiced some protest about that.

    Now tachlis: If you don’t mind decorating your sukkah with tinsel, flashing colored lights and glass balls, the stuff marketed to the hoi poloi is really dirt cheap. You just have to buy it the year before. Same with Halloween if you like orange/black/ purple themes.

    in reply to: Chanuka II #944454
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    Popa bar: A)Refer to pizza thread, and also Star K has a nice distillation of pas haba bekisnin

    B) no, not ktakannas hachamim, that each day has a hiyuv

    hadlaka

    C)not knowing which day. You are yotze with one candle,

    so that is preferable to lighting the wrong number.

    E) bein hasmoshos; Why would you do a drabanan aseh

    and violate a safek lav d’oraita?

    in reply to: Shmiras Ainayim & OTD #707394
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    PIY: If you had aspaklaria hameira, you would be awesome. As is, your pretty sharp and on target.

    in reply to: Shmiras Ainayim & OTD #707393
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    Moq: Not perfect. Just caring, thinking, and with the right people who are happy with their avodas hakodesh. Maybe take a peek at the Molester thread to see where some things need tweaking.

    in reply to: Should There Be An Indication For Gender Under Peoples Names? #711981
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    I would wager that the more attentive among us can figure this out from context, especially the goose end of the goose/gender divide with the BY sense.

    in reply to: Malchus Yisro'el #707529
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    Shavua Tov. ROB, the Eim Habanim Smecha was abused in the Tefilah for Tzahal thread, with nary a whisper of protest. As the Mod above says, WE TRY, not WE DO.

    in reply to: Brachos on Pizza #984780
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    Also rabosai, consider this gem: In a compendium on chagim, I found a quoted maamar of the Chazon Ish regardng kezais. He says that Hakodosh Baruch Hu knew we would be subject to exiles and wanderings, thus in his mercy, he gave us natural signs for the shiurim. Hence a kzayis is the size of an olive in every time and every place relative to that place. The responses to this fell into two basic groups: Group A) that not what he said, thats not what he meant, he said it but not lhoros, he didnt mean it that way. he meant it but didn’t say it …..

    Group b) took it and reasoned that the largest possible olive in our times is the the shiur (California Colossal?) and so a Kzayis is about 20 ml or the (outside)volume of two soda bottle caps, or a small size match box, and this is the shiur for all mitzvos and bracha aharona.

    Now if we go with group B, one slice of pizza is clearly more than two or three kzaisim, and for the deah that says that kvias seudah is based on quantity, One slice shouold be hamotzi and benching.

    in reply to: Brachos on Pizza #984779
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    Fief Un: that would be called sticking your head in a machlokes. If nothing else was eaten at the meal, maybe you are just a latecommer, and you should bench with them. As in MOM WHATS FOR DINNER?1 Um,.. lets do pizza. Kvias Seudah. Case closed.

    in reply to: Molesters: Why Do Some In Our Community Cover For Them? #711810
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    Just some validation of what was said above. How I wish this could be anonymous, maybe mods, can you arrange that? In a different life I taught LD highschool. It was a job I fell into accidentally, I wasn’t trained specifically for teaching at all, but I put all my heart and all my creativity into them, unaware, and young and stupidly so, that the principal was molesting them. It was a spectacle to see parents of the molested begging for the school not to shut down over this, but thankfully for all involved, it closed.The roveah ran away to EY, and hung up a shingle in counseling. How clever. In the ensuing years I got an education, being a small cog in Jewish health care, I saw and heard a lot of sad stuff, and so I eventually developed the zero tolerance attitude. I feel nausia when I hear a certain person’s music in shul, and I avoid Shabbos Mevorchim kabbalas shabbos. After some years in EY, I came across the roveah’s name on a mailbox. It really shook me. BH, I beleive they gave him back to the Americans, for though I would not pursue him, had I crossed his path in a quiet place, I wouldnt think twice. Thank for letting me spill some pain, edit as you must.

    in reply to: Adult Swimming #784929
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    Yes, mice can swim as a mamalian instinct, but out of the water, the weight of the wet fur can kill the mouse from exhaustion and internal injury. Rats, though, are excellent swimmers. About fear, I was exposed to water from infancy, so I had no fear,and I must have had some rudimentary skills. Still, I was sent to public lessons at the age of 5 or so. The first lesson started this way: The instructor, (the local auto mechanic, gorilla sized) would pick each kid up, and toss him ten feet up and twenty over to land in deeper water (not a pool). Like squeak recommends, for those with fear of water, it mostly worked.

    in reply to: Why are people still smoking? #845815
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    arc, she wrote hypoventillate, as in holding your breath till out of range of the mazik polluter.

    in reply to: Updating our heating system #706447
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    also caveat: There is no such thing as a free lunch. Heating domestic water from your boiler is usually a lose/lose. A fresh water heated does a better job with less firepower. And, on the super efficient boilers, (water not steam) with the 90% plus ratings, when I bailed out five years ago, the lifespan of these units were 10-15 years, compared to almost forever for a good standard efficiency cast iron gas burner. Do the math, and give the laws of physic their due respect.

    in reply to: Updating our heating system #706446
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    The issue of size is determined by a heat loss calculation. It is basically a measurement of all your heat loss surfaces ( walls ceilings windows doors) mutltiplied by known values for material/insulative value. At the end you get a BTU load for a typical maximum heat diff between outside and what you want inside. If a contractor does’nt do the arithmetic, ask him to, and if he does’nt know what you are talking about and rule of thumbs the job, fine a brainier operator.

    Changing from steam to water is more efficient because of the efficiency losses of phase change and higher temps of steam. There are also more critical error that can be made unless you have a quality moomche.

    The very best system if you can find someone to do it right is continuous circ. In this system, the pump always runs, the radiator temps are kept from tepid to warm, never hot. This makes the radiant effect of the radiator much higher, (comfort) doesnt stir up dust, reduces burn risk, and actually is most efficient except for the electrical load of the pump. The pump also lasts longer running at lower temp and continuously rather than start/stop, and the run of the boiler is controlled primarily by the thermostat, which is the most accurate part of the system. This is great for very large houses with high volume systems.

    Squeak: there were several ways to do steam, some two pipe, and the science of how these work is a nearly lost art. Big, old, large pipe systems that worked by gravity only: hot water rises, cold water falls, all in big pipe with asbestos insulation. They worked without pumps, and some gas systems worked on milivolt contol that the pilot generated itself. In steam, this could be a electric less system. There were coal feeders that worked on thermal expasion/ contration of a bimetal sensor, and chains that also worked “by themselves” The laws of physics is a beautiful thing.

    In a steam to water convert, some old radiators on steam don’t have the requisite tappings.

    Lastly, good double pane windows, attic and walls insulated to the max, (and a tyvek house wrap if you are residing) are one time expenses that forever reduce your energy needs and have no moving parts (except windows)

    As you might sense, this was my bread and butter before I moved to Jerusalem, where I can have tomatoes on the vine in January, but almost no heating business. L’toeles harabim, you can reach me for advice if the Mod lets.

    in reply to: How To Convince A Non Jew To Throw Out Their TV #707713
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    There are studies that show that it actually alters the brain, and dumbs you down. The great intellectual/social/moral decline has accompanied the advent and development of TV, and while the lines of causality are not complete, there are plenty of strong hints. and it seems that modern TV exposed children are way less educatable. I read a tread about the alarm in the armed services and in business regarding the quality of new inductees/hires. One guy said he gave a temporary opening to a new worker, who came on time, stayed on task, got along well with others and actually produced. He move the worker to full fime. Workers age: 55.

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