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But I don’t even make dollars, I’m not paid for doing this.

We have something called Ohel Chabad-lubavitch. It is the resting place of the Previous Rebbe, along with The Rebbe ZY”A. Tens of thousands of people flock there on Gimmel Tammuz.
And you claim that you would think all lubavitchers are mishichistim??? Who takes care of the ohel?? Misnagdim??

“It sounds like you are saying that non-meshichist Chabad don’t want to publicly reclaim the title of “Chabad” and are willing to let them represent Chabad, out of fear of machlokes.”

We don’t need to reclaim the title, they never had the title in the first place. They don’t have a right to call themselves the face of the chabad-lubavitch movement, and if anybody wants to be serious and real-they simply are not the face of lubavitch. They can claim all they want, but they aren’t.

It’s not about reclaiming the title, rather we don’t want to get up at, for example , the kinus hashluchim, and ‘denounce’ them.

Any lubavitcher understands that that is not a wise thing to do. Number one, there are some mishichistim who are shluchim, & number two, even the ones who are not shluchim will get a bit more violent and cause even more split and angst inside lubavitch.

This doesn’t have to be, because it shouldn’t be, and lubavitch is one of the only big chassidus’s that aren’t officially split.

@Avram in MD
אֵיזוֹ הִיא מַחְלֹקֶת שֶׁהוּא לְשֵׁם שָׁמַיִם?
זוֹ מַחְלֹקֶת הִלֵּל וְשַׁמַּאי.
Not what we’re doing here.

Do you want sources for what they claim about the rebbe that he is Moshiach?
They have sources. Like in the Rashi in the second to the last passuk of daniel, the Gemara Sanhedrin talks about his name possibly being Menachem. And there are more sources that explain how he could be Moshiach, the real thing they are wrong about it is that they know it as a fact when it’s not – we don’t know.

It’s not kefira – it’s a lie. From a perspective, yes, it looks like kefira, who are they calling him Moshiach if we don’t know that he is? But you can’t say he is not ra’uy to be Moshiach, so the big mistake they are making is saying it as a fact when it’s not.

@yungermanS
The way I understand the concept of going to a tzaddik or kivrei tzaddikim and asking for a brachah or that he daven for them is that they have a special connection to Hashem, and have many zechusim, and so when they daven it could bring upon extra & special blessings & yeshuos.

Going according to avirah’s standards for calling something avodah zara, this would pass the test.

Syag – Hide what?

Only by the mishichistim. that’s what you are forgetting.
Again, the Rebbe was no way into Yechi, and just because he waved his hands means nothing. He did that by all niggunim that were sung when he walked out of shul it doesn’t proved he liked the song or the idea behind it.
And lubavitch follows the rebbe. So there you have it, you can’t say this as “general luabvitch” because

A. They are a minority
B. They are going against the Rebbe’s wishes
C. They are not supported by the flagship luabvitcher mosdos
D. Even if all these above were in their favor, still, that doesn’t make it all lubavitchers

Going to a tzaddik to ask for a brachah should be on the list of serving ‘avodah zara’, right? It would be signifying that he is the one who control eveything. Takeh. Then basically all Yidden are serving avodah zara except you!
Remind me of the mashal: A guy walks into his doctors office, and starts complaining about how when he touches his nose it hurts, when he touches his ear, it hurts, when he touches his tooth it hurts, and continues… The doctor realized the situation and said calmy:
I think it’s just your hand that hurts!

I’m trying to understand, Are you saying we should focus on other mitzvos also, not just Torah?
I think we stay up and learn Torah (there is another more important reason why we stay up & learn shavuos night), also because we are learning what we will receive the next day again every year. That’s a reason why we focus on Torah, not for example, gemilas chasadim, or tefillah, or other very important mitzvos.

Have you heard of the “mirror theory”? It’s brought in seforim.
It’s when you see a fault in somebody else, you are really looking in a mirror.

@Hakatan
Does any conscieous person believ what that site says????
Who exactly runs it???

If anybody on here learnt tanya, even the basics, understands clearly that every neshama has a chelek elka’ah mima’al mamash – a literal chelek of Hashem inside his neshama.

So it’s not so hard to say that we are part of Hashem wrapped in a body, because our neshama which has a chelek eloka’ah mima’al mamash is wrapped in a physical body.

@AviraDeArah
“Similarly, at the council of shluchim, one of the organizers began with a vehi noam, that “the rebbe should look down and we should find favor before him”

And you don’t think rav chaim is looking down and finding favor in all of the bnei torah? Do you not think so?

How can you even have a tzad to think this is avodah zara??? Every tzaddik (especially a rebbe) looks down from shamayim and sees their chassidim following in their footsteps, & they get a lot of nachas!

@Sam Klein
I’m sorry you didn’t understand what I meant. Of course, I 100% agree with what you are saying, we can’t just sit and wait for Moshiach to come, we have to bring him! We have to ker a velt!!!
I was saying that Moshacih could come even if the state of israel is fully intact.
Not to Ch”v mean that we can just sit and twiddle our thumbs all day instead of going out to the world and being mekarev people so that we will bring the geulah closer!

I’m not sure where I said that Hashem needs us. But he WANTS us. He wants to see people who can do otherwise, but chose to serve Hashem.

Who is the chabad chossid around here?

And how that answers the question is that we were created by Hashem for Hashem.

The arizal says to cut your peyos, not let them grow long. He is saying that you should not have long peyos. (Which is unlike other chassidim which do have long peyos).

In short, the arizal holds not to have long peyos. And that you should cut them.

Don’t make me answer for others who say that they follow the arizal. GO and ask them why they DO have peyos.
I’m telling you the main reason why chabad doesn’t have long peyos. If you have a problem with that then go complain to the other people who say they follow the arizal.

Did you forget about The Baal Hatanyah?

@Avirah Dearah Go check up what the arizal said first, before refuting it by looking at other mekubalim.

@ubiquitin
I feel a bit childish saying this, but I wonder: do you see your phone number when you step on a scale?
How can you consider it a snack? If you do, then you mean to say a meal of pizza is 4 or 5 slices?
I’m not sure how that’s possible to even fit in a human stomach without throwing up.
Or maybe you simply have to understand what a snack means and what a meal means.
I guess you send your kids with a few slices of pizza JUST FOR SNACK??? Sounds not right to me, you have to agree.

Some people deny this-but it’s true-NOBODY, and I mean nobody-eats pizza for snack. No normal people eat it as a snack. People have seichal and they know that they are eating a meal. A meal doesn’t mean a 4-course-dinner, even just one dish is still considered a meal. So you have to wash on even one slice.

Now, where does making a mezonos come in?
When the pizza is made with fruit juice so it’s not considered dough l’halachah. Most pizza shops don’t use fruit juice, so it’s not a common application for everyone, but for those that do eat from pizza shops that make their pizza with fruit juice, they make a mezonos.