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maybe the problem is that every guy and girl is waiting for that dream guy.
I remember when someone once told me when I was dating: “You don’t know which girl hashem decided for you to marry”.
Gemara in sotah says that its basically decided already.
So instead of the dream girl/guy, maybe should look for the RIGHT one.And CT Rebbe, do u really think that all those who are learning iyun and amkus and really touching the depths of a sugya are “not learnin” and wasting their time?
Noone is saying one should learn iyun all day in yeshiva, as one who is able to do that is probably just rifling through rishonim and not truly delving in thought into the sugya with ameilus.
But is it absurd to think that when one is in a place where he maybe exosed to some kind of real mesoros hatorah he should concentrate on just picking up yedios, which one has their whole life for?
I assume not everyone just turns their back on Torah when they leave yeshiva, and are just delving into parnassa to be able to live and continue with the ikur namely avoodas hashem.
I could be wrong…….I feel that people here have forgotten that Torah comes via mesorah.
Its only with a Rebbi one will ever truly be able to konah an understanding of how to learn gemara.
The way I see it is that in Yeshiva/Kolel once has the ability to acquire the mesorah of how to learn.
He has the rest of his life to explore the depth of Torah.
Lets face it, how many people once they step into the working world are stiill learning iyun – they all tend to shift to daf yomi. So at least this way they’ve acquired the skills and mesorah how to learn gemara properly.Please respond accoringly