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chalilavchas: I’m so sorry to hear that. That must be so very difficult. Would the young adult ever agree to you setting up a debate? Is there another idea out there?
Maybe someone here has one (without just seeking to show us how their shitta… is correct).
May I pry? Is there something pulling this YA away, like a b/f-g/f, using them?
How could we not be? Are trying, really trying, to follow Hashems will in the most challenging circumstances? Yes.
Your boss and sister make sense. Unless its a really really close friend
observanteen: Thank you.
the.nurse:
But I think it’s the way other people look at and respond to that person asking the questions that is the problem sometimes, which may end up aiding that person in to turning to the wrong things.
I’m not sure, could be. I don’t see how what I said was anything but (an attempt to be) helpful.
chalilavchas: Its your thread, which has been taken for a ride. I think your idea is great. Have you been able to reach any of the people mentioned?
RSRH:
TAM is in top five. TAG isn’t.
Aww. But us CR’s have Popa, and that sure keeps us happy
Chodesh tov
Where is this segulah from?
Wow. It must be quite frightening and unnerving.
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Thank Hashem
If you talk to the la hatzolah guys, they’ll tell you that they’ve witnessed the fire department guys doing cpr wrong and other such malpractice but can’t say a word because of the politics.
Thats very sad.I just hope there’s no internal Hatzolah politics
RSRH
To all those pointing to Discover, R’ Mechanic, R’ Kellerman, and other such figures and/or organizations: These “proofs” may satisfy some, but really bright critical thinkers can easily take apart these supposed “proofs” as to God’s existence and the divinity and truth of the Torah very easily.
For such bright thinkers there usually is no proof.
I guess the Rambam, Rabbi Shamsho Rafeal Hirsch and all other Jews forevor were just not “bright and critical thinkers”. WOW
the.nurse:
When you had questions what did you do? Did you throw off observance and not look for answers, or you asked your questions? If the response is asking questions, great. If the response is joining some frie groups, then there’s a deeper problem to be cognizant about as well.
zaidy78: True. Isn’t that what all brochos are? Yet, the tefilah of certain people are answered quicker, as seen many times in chazal.
However, shaarei demo’os (tears..) lo ninalu. The gates of tears are open for all…
SJSinNYC:
Its interesting to see how people view those young teens with honest questions.
….. Do you think Judaism encourages mindlessness
Who said anything about honost questions? Please, take it to the cheap-shot thread.
This is not directed at you, just in general. Why do we always need to take other peoples difficult situations and pain to show how “smart” and “advanced” and “good” we are?
zaidy78: Who was he blessing? What does the Gemora derive from this,, huh? That a birchas hediot should be taken seriously. Certanly a birchas tzadik
mbachur: omain!
I think opening a new thread may have been easier…. But it’s a free country
zaidy78: What about Hashem asking Rabbi Yishmoel Ben Elisha for a brocha on Om Kippur, when he went into the K”K? (Brochos daf 7?, the famous A Fried song Tanya)
mbachur: Wouldn’t it be more apprropriate if you allow the gadol to say that whilst giving his bracha. How about giving her a heartfelt bracha, now and here, please.
Daas Yochid: Whichever poster takes a cheap shot, it becomes difficult to take that poster seriously, in that argument. If A will present a good case and someone else, B, will take his side and dish out an uncalled for insult; to me it would invalidate B, not A. But it’s difficult to take a person, who has to retort to insults, seriously.
Kiddush Hashem= sancttify Hashems name. Every single Mitzvah we do does that. Really, every time we listen to Hashem. Doing an aveirah, even in private, is a chilul Hashem.
There’s a slightly different concept of “Shmi hamchulull ba-goim” mentioned in a recent haftorah
Just to add on to APY and IS:I wish I could share the names to make it more credible.
This is going back a while. A Rebbe of mine repeated that he met a man who had been married for nineteen years and suffered from childlessness. He got a Brocha from a certain Rebbe and had triplets. Then a while later the new father received a phone call one erev Shabbos from the Rebbe’s gabbai, the Rebbe is in the hospital undergoing heart complications. The rebbe wants a brocha from the father!
The father, incredulous, asked the Rebbe “the Rebbe has the power of brochos, not me”. The Rebbe answered him “a brocho comes from the heart. I know you will give me a brocho from the depth of your heart!”
Its still very worthwhile to get a brochah from a true talmid chochom and/or tzadik
No. I mean that they have a rav but not a particular rebbe. Yes do the math. There are approximately 20,000 families in BP. How many belong to the major Chassidisim?
No wonder 18th Ave park, as well as other “nice” locations, appear the way they do on Shabbos. Instead of building yeshivos, we build eiruvin, machlookes and lamdonim like david 1999 who can belittle the people who are responsible for our Yiddishkeit.
The Chofetz Chaim wrote a whole sefer encouraging beards. He writes about the kabalistic side as well.
BY: To understand chillul Hashem, we must fist understand kiddush Hashem. How would you define kiddush Hashem?
The Rambam says it means not saying Shema [even] while in privacy.
There are two identical threads
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/right-wing-orthodox-left-wing-orthodox
“lev chocho l’yemino, v’lev ksil l’smolo”
Thats why Rav Roth didn’t want it.
Thats why Rav Ahron, the Satmer Rebbe from KJ spoke out against it. Thats why the other Satmer Rebbe opposes it. On and on
What a great argument. Wonderful.
truth be told –
“No, no. The first is just that, chilul Shabbos. The second is at most not recomended”
There are more reasons to allow our eruvin than there are for much of the meat that you eat today.
david1999:
First you claim he gets the most questions in BP. Doesn’t work.
So you claim he even gets questions from Lakewood, and that he’s the most asked posek in America. Don’t work either.
EzratHashem:
For all of our patting ourselves on the back for our kiruv efforts, we don’t seem to be so good at helping people who want proof.
You’re kindly invited to head on over to the cheap-shot thread. We’ll be waitin
observanteen
I know a guy who wears a black hat and my husband saw him doing _______” or “my husband wears a colored shirt, and he’s a tzaddik! He’d never do stuff ploni does who wears a white shirt!”
oh_yeah:
What a great comparison! Chillul Shabbos and internet use with a filter.
No, no. The first is just that, chilul Shabbos. The second is at most not recomended
david1999:
david1999:
This is hearsay. Rav Roth is a major supporter of the current Brooklyn eruvin. He wrote his own letter as did almost all the rabbanim. He did join the kol korei together with all the rabbanim.
Please provide the “kol korei”. He only wrote his own letter, refusing to sign with the others. Its hearsay to say otherwise.
Only Satmerer listen to him? He has more shilos daily than all rabbanim in Boro Park combined. He has many shilos from Flatbush residents.
How many people follow Rav Heskowitz? I know rabbanim in Flatbush who ask him shilos. Many rabbanim in Boro Park and Williamsburg ask him shilos. He simply is in a different league to those who know him.
Voted. It takes a few seconds. Very easy
Beautifully put observanteen!
Can we turn this thread into the cheap shot thread?
So, who is gonna be the first? Bring it on!!
That was a classic attempt at winning an argument not on merit or proof, rather by taking a cheap-shot. Whenever I see cheap-shots, I automatically assume that the person handing it is wrong. Why else would they stoop to this?
Try Rabbi Brog. There are many more (whom I’m not familiar with).
(Often it’s not faith they’re strugling with as much as pain and hurt)
Very sorry to hear about your situation. May Hashem send you all you yesuah very very soon.
I’m so sorry aabout your predicament. May hashem help you and give you strength.
One thing though. The pass-up deal is probably not true, at all. (Of course we have to act responsibly, but Hasehm does forgive past mistakes). The pass-up stories pretend teshuva doesn’t exist. Teshuva exists on much greate things
The Chofetz Chaim has a sefer about it. Mentions the kabalistic part as well.
2qwerty & Reb Yontel the male yenta: You both (same?) did not address my point.
Why both Satmer Rebbes oppose it is not my point. My point is how so many people, who are not his chasidim or mispallim, may rely on his psak. The Satmerers follow their Rebbe. This is kulah shopping in so great an area as chillul Shabbos. Same with reb Fischel. Very sad
2qwerty
Many litvishe Rabbonim including those that follow R Belsky wouldn’t hesitate to send their followers to R Roth for certain type of shailas.
Can you back that up? I don’t think so. It sounds made up
By making it a tzniyus issue, you are encouraging people to not to chesed when it is, in fact, warranted. A young girl taught to ignore a boy shivering in the rain could just as easily ignore an old man who has slipped on the ice and cannot get up.
I think there may be a misconception. Chesed is not optional. When we are approached for tzedoka, and we can give, we must. Same with other chesed. However, there are things which are lifnim m’shuras hadin. For instance, a ride for a bocher who is not handicapped. He can go home later. He can take a cab. Etc etc. In that case a girl should be taught to value tznius over lifnim mishuras hadin, since that’s what the halocha dictates.
All the ideas mentioned should help.
(like getting out of the house and starting my day)
In regurd to this issue, the halocha is ??? ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ??? ?????? it’s prefferable less with kavonah, than a lot without. Sometimes we would like to Daven the whole Davening, including Ketores etc, but we have to get to work etc. Then its important to know this halocha. When we Daven very quick, or we’re clock watching, its very very difficult to concentrate. Or we feel bad for not being able to Daven evrything.
Daven less, but with emotion!
There are people who never daven the whole Davening, as they daven slow..
Just a thought
Was R. Roth opposed to making an eiev in BP? Yes, no one can deny this. Did he refuse to sign on the same page as the others? Yes, he wrote his own letter. Either way, in regards to all other issues, only Satmerers llisten to him. Both Satmer Rebbes strongly oppose the eirev. So to who exactly is his psak applicible for? His chasidim and talmidim. Not a large amount.
How many people follow R Hershkowitzs psakim?
It’s pick a your heter deal