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Yytz “neutral fact checkers”😂😂😂What, like snopes???😂😂
It’s a joke! Trump says “i built the best economy…” , “fact checkers” count that as a lie, and similar meaningless statements ….All that is important is Trump did what he said he’ll do UNLIKE your standard politician! He is an unapologetic conservative, and he pushed his conservative policy -THAT is precisely why you and the left hate him so much. Politicians don’t make “misstatements”. They lie about what they’re supposedly gonna do to gain your vote. Not trump. Don’t talk about conspiracy theories when you guys own the spygate, Russia hoax, impeachment hoax….
And perhaps you should read the lawsuits, they’re pretty easy to find online, and I can’t post them here. You don’t who I don’t hear barking? The statisticians on the left. They know.

Quayboardwarrior
Firstly, the grammar is irrelevant to the claims. Perhaps it was done intentionally to attract the attention of the left wing media. It worked perfectly.
Secondly, in general, one can KNOW there is fraud even if there is no “evidence” to hold up in court. For example, if across america, there was 100% voter turnout, you KNOW that is impossible and clearly a result of fraud. Doesn’t mean there is necessarily irrefutable evidence. So yeah, due to many mathematical irregularities and impossibilities, every honest person understands there was fraud committed. Does that mean that the evidence would hold up in court? Read the lawsuits and decide for yourself.

Charlie, perhaps you should actually read the lawsuits just recently filed by Sidney Powell in Georgia and Michigan. Might, *might* , make you sound smarter in your future posts. Not sure how any of trumps “goons” would go about overturning a “fair and free” election.

So fascinating to see how everyone is so informed on all the evidence that currently exists to conclude that there is nothing there😂😂😂.
Anyone observing the unfolding events should ask themselves one question: does it make any sense at all for highly regarded attorneys/lawyers such as Lin Wood and Sidney Powell to knowingly willingly and intentionally light their reputation on fire for no reason or benefit whatsoever?
What evidence do they possess that they believe can overturn the results? I have absolutely no idea. But it is senseless to believe that they would put a death date on their careers by “floating out conspiracy theories” . So to all democrats: give them a chance! And assuming that you all believe Biden won cleanly-don’t be afraid to give them that chance!!

I’m not gonna get into details of alleged fraud, all anyone needs to see to understand this election was stolen, is the democrats’ refusal to audit every single vote. If they thought they won cleanly, they would invite the Republicans to investigate absolutely everything, if only to make them look foolish. Let’s see how this plays out, as sidney powell seems pretty confident she possesses sufficient evidence to overturn this thing.

Yserbius, I’d love to hear what Rav Aharon Feldman ACTUALLY said because I’ve heard of different rabbanim that have endorse clinton 4yrs ago and endorsed trump now. (Not surprising considering how the left has completely lost their mind the last few yrs…) Either way I’ll just leave this hear.

Historic Letter Of Rabbonim And Admorim Praising President Trump Released Ahead of Election

Charlie is MIA. haven’t heard from him in a while.

Don’t know about 1973, but id say if roe vs wade is overturned, they will almost certainly still allow for abortion in cases where the mother is in danger…

Interesting that you say that, yaakov doe, I wonder what led you to that conclusion…The only pollster that was accurate in 2016(all othes were way off) has trump winning re-election…plus voter registration trends from 2012-2016-2020 is key swing states is all in trumps favor….

Doe
Pretty terrible take to put it nicely. Antifa may stand for anti fascist, but it’s anything but that. Anybody who doesn’t unite with them, doesn’t riot with them is automatically labeled a white supremacist. Any mildly different opinion than their own is “dangerous”. Take a look at what they do to those peacefully eating outdoors by restaurants when the antifa movement passes by. They want to control what you do and what you think.
Same with Black Lives Matter. They have clearly shown they don’t give a darn about black lives. But of course if you oppose them (even if your black yourself) you get labeled as a white supremacist. Pretty insane times we’re living in.

se2015
This is not about defending trump. This is about political and pharmaceutical interests taking precedence to 215k lives. This is disgusting. This is frightening. Your lack of concern(assuming you aren’t ignorant on this subject) reflects the type of person you are. It is becoming increasingly clear to me that liberalism, and TDS are indeed mental disorders. I dont see any other way an orthodox jew can stoop so low as to politicize this issue.

Charlie it would be interesting to see you try and actually put forth a logical argument instead of touting your credentials. You try to discredit my arguments by stating I have no clinical experience(100% true). Your credentials are irrelevant; you can be fauci himself. It’s irrelevant because for one: all that I’ve said has been stated by medical experts, at least some(if not all) of whom have significantly more knowledge and experience with hydroxychloroquine. Secondly: you fail to present any counterargument whatoever. You seem very confident that hydroxychloroquine has been debunked. I want to understand how an expert with his name on 180 scientific publications came to this conclusion. Id also assume you believe hydroxychloroquine is dangerous. If so please explain what led to that conclusion. Because all due respect, I have a feeling that the reason you refrain from actually debating is because you understand that the only thing you have is credentials; not facts. Just tell me if I’m wrong on that.
-explain to me how studies that used extremely high doses can used as proof hydroxychloroquine is dangerous when given in low dosage
-explain to me how studies performed on hospitalized patients can be used as proof hydroxychloroquine is ineffective when utilized in an outpatient setting
-explain to me how studies that exclude zinc can be as proof hydroxychloroquine is ineffective when given with zinc
These are not my questions. These questions can be attributed to many hundreds of doctors around the country. But you are the expert. Surely you can answer these questions with ease. I’ll wait patiently.

Based on facts and only facts, is there any reason not to believe the doctors who are claiming that fauci is perpetrating a genocide by suppressing hydroxychloroquine? The facts are clear. Every country using hydroxychloroquine widespread has a far lower death rate. Fact. Doctors who are using hydroxychloroquine early in an outpatient are seeing around 90% less death s and hospitalizations. Fact.
Hydroxychloroquine is being tainted as a “dangerous” drug based on obviously flawed studies using between 4-12x the recommended dosage! Fact. Hydroxychloroquine is being labeled ineffective based on stupidly flawed studies where they
-leave out zinc
-perform them on hospitalized patients where nobody in the world expects it to be effective (see latest trial conducted by the WHO)

Please respond only if based on something I’m missing, I should not actually believe fauci is murdering thousands. Not TDS anti trump baseless factless “it’s all a conspiracy” rants.

Besides, charlie, I’ve seen you claim in a different thread that “hydroxychloroquine is debunked”. Really?

Se2015
Never suggested anyone taking any drug without doctors consent. Let me be clear about that. Let’s also make clear that this isn’t “me vs doctors” . I see that’s the narrative your trying to put forth. This is about doctors vs doctors. I’m literally parroting the talking points of top medical experts. And to any fair minded person, this argument is completely one sided. We are perhaps witnessing perhaps the biggest medical scandal of all time. There is a reason Dr Harvey Risch has accused Fauci of potentially costing tens of thousands of lives. Not me accusing. But Yale epidemiologist accusing. And to any innocent observer , these accusations are well founded and easy to understand.
(Your claims of me getting paid for this is laughable and flat out lunacy)

@jewinthepew
1-I honestly don’t know whether the perfect golden standard RCT exists. as in the article that I referenced explains, many trials were derailed and abandoned once that bogus Lancet study became public. Despite being retracted many study were never able to get underway due to lack of participants who were now afraid to take this “dangerous drug”. However, as Yale epidemiologist Dr Harvey Risch pointed out in a CNN interview, nearly half of cancer treatments never went through the RCT. The narrative that we don’t know anything without RCT is simply false. You don’t need RCT to determine whether parachutes will save someone’s life when jumping off an airplane. When you take note that nearly every country that uses hydroxychloroquine freely has far lower death rates, when doctors around the country report there own success with it(example: Dr Brian Tyson, a frontline doctor in California who treated 1700 covid positive patients, 0 deaths, 1 hospitalization)when you hear patient testimony where at one point they had fever and was short of breath-and symptom free just hours after taking the drug-this all leads to the same conclusion, and hydroxychloroquine is indeed effective and should be used. There is perhaps one argument that would say despite all this anecdotal evidence, hydroxychloroquine’s should not be used. And that is “it’s dangerous” . It can cause cardiac arrhythmia, and then cardiac arrest, and death. Well what is the evidence of that? As it stands, hydroxychloroquine has always been considered a very safe drug for 65 years, a drug that can be taken by all: children, adults, pregnant women….but now all of the sudden the drug is dangerous. Why? Because there were trials conducted where patients received 800mg, or in some cases 2400mg!! These are indeed fatal doses! The “pro-hydroxychloroquine” doctors recommend just 200mg! But this obvious flaw for some reason was missed by fauci. Was missed by the media.
2-I’m not gonna get into scientific terms, but the general idea is that while hydroxychloroquine does have some limited antiviral properties, it’s main effect is that it lets the real antiviral-zinc-into the cell where it destroys the virus’ copying machine.
3-expert doctors are indeed reaching the intellectual standards of a 7th grader. I’ll refer you to an “open letter to Dr fauci” written by Dr George C. Fareed, from Brawley Ca, Michael M. Jacobs, M.D. MPH from Pensacola FL, and Donald C. Pompan, MD, from Salinas Ca.

Hydroxychloroquine. Every doctor who recommends hydroxychloroquine recommends it be give in a very specific way. Low dosage. With zinc. Early, not to hospitalized patients. And to high risk patients. Seems real simple to me. How am I supposed to trust Fauci when he refers to studies that don’t remotely resemble this protocol, as “proof” hydroxychloroquine is ineffective. A 7th grader observing can easily point out major flaws in the studies that show hydroxychloroquine ineffective. Why hasn’t Fauci and the NIH run a study that followed these very basic rules? Why has the Lancet, a very well known and respected medical journal, had to retract a study that was supposed to be the “nail in the coffin” for hydroxychloroquine -for using fraudulent manufactured data? Every study that abides to these easy to understand rules concludes hydroxychloroquine is indeed very effective in combating covid. Charlie, I challenge you to refer me to a one single study -that abides by these “rules”-and indicates otherwise. I’ll wait.

charlie, reb eliezer, either youve publicly admitted that you get your news from the fakenews liberal media, or your blatant liars. Regarding Charlottesville, Trump literally said “im not talking about the white supremacists, or neo nazis, they should be condemned totally”. He’s condemned them countless times, and if i could post videos of him doing so, i would. You, just like the Fakenews media, are simply hoping that the average person is uninformed on these topics and will take your word for it. Will you apologize?