Forum Replies Created
-
Posts
-
you got bullied. what does that have to do with normal people. welcome to capitalism. if you want to settle on a pre-arranged salary, go for it. if not, you are essentially doing them a favor and they should send you a candy dish as hakaras hatov. the fact that they decided to give you a monetary candy dish was very nice of them. this topic is about capitalism vs socialism.
Dear theyeshivaworld.com,
why is it that everyone has to pay for advertising except shidduch world? I see a bad trend starting here.
OUTOFTOWNER- It sure is nice of you to poke your head back into the thread you started yourself. However, on page 2 I asked you a question and you haven’t written here since. Do you still refuse to reply?
Who ever said that animals are not treated ethically that such a debate must be commenced as to whether or not they SHOULD be treated ethically? Why can’t I claim that they ARE treated ethically? Since when does a human being get to mandate how animals should be treated? If I breed and raise the cow why cant I keep it in a pen a force feed it. Do any of the shotim on this website know what a ben pakuah is? I’ll bet you dont. I’ll bet you didnt know that you dont have to shecht it; that you can just walk right up with a chain-saw. Kosher as a carrot. If the torah says you can do it, who are you to argue. Oh, I must have forgotten that you can just make up whatever you want and claim its in the bible. The feminist is no different than Jews for Jesus. If you say its in the bible then it is. Or perhaps The Feminist is different because she’s jewish. only jews have a right to their opinion.
And whats all this about treating animals humanely? They’re not human. Or is that only an opinion.
you can get anything in the world at walmart. just bring them back when youre through with them for a full refund
When I was much younger, I used to keep my eyes trained on the ground as I walked to ensure that I stepped on ants or other insects now and then(especially beetles- they’re so nice and crunchy); however, now I know that there’s no need to do that because they don’t taste any good anyway so there’s no point.
Fine Young Lady Feminist- The mere definition of feminism or any such activist group is antithetical to Judaism. Judaism is not based on, but rather wholly IS the word of G-D transmitted through the generations by those are educated and trained in proving from the text of tanach information that I would not have otherwise seen regarding the entire world and including everything and everything. The individual does not get an “opinion” in the matter. They don’t even get a say in the facts. The rabbanan of the generation who were trained by their rabbeim and in turn train their talmidim are the only ones in the whole wide world who can tell you the truth about the world. The rishonim and acharonim most certainly fit into this category and their word IS law. I feel I have a right in this forum as one who is being trained to be able to lead the next generation of Yeshiva Orthodox jews(not saying thats the path I want in life) to merely say over the facts I have learned under the tutelage of the rabbanan of this generation. You have no say in the matter. Only G-d does. Zevi has no say in the matter. Only G-d does. Even I have no say in the matter. I- just because hashem as granted me the privilege to spend my days immersed in his torah- simply happen to know what G-d says on the matter and I don’t try to alter what he says to fit what I think proper morals SHOULD be.
Finally and most definitely some agenda driven, silly wackos on some silly website have no say in the matter. ONLY G-D DOES.
To sum it all up, an activist group is based on the assumption that all people have a right to their opinions regarding morals and ethics and that if it appears that ones self given morals are not being observed, then one should go out and make the people aware of how THEY want the public to lead their lives. This most certainly has nothing to do with judaism. The fact that you are jewish has nothing to do with te fact that you claim to be a feminist. There are many slummy people out there who are jewish so you are not extraordinary in that regard.
Zevi you are such a genius. If you weren’t a genius, how would you know why hashem allowed men to eat animals? If you weren’t a genius, how would you know whether or not “Just because god gave permission for people to eat meat, doesnt make it right and doesnt make it good in his eyes”? If you weren’t a genius, how would you have the right to be an apikorus and go against g-d and the torah where any 3rd grader can correctly tell you that there are MANY explicit mitzvos regarding the korbanos and eating them and who should eat them and how you should eat them? If you weren’t a genius, how would you what g-d had in mind when he gave the torah? Did you just make it up yourself and decide to live your life based on your fantasy world? Who do you think you are? You must be a genius the caliber of Avraham Avinu who figured out the torah on his own. You must be a genius if you feel you are able to argue with the gemara that says “aino simcha elah b’bussur v’yayin.” Or else you have been repeatedly going against the torah in yet one more way, for it says “v’sumachta b’chagecha” Or perhaps you are openly admitting to being m’vatel an asei d’oraysah. So courageous you must be too because you are simply not scared of the purgatory. all for the sake of hashem. WOW! Oh, and that thing about king Solomon, what in the world are you talking about? I suspect you made that up too.
In conclusion, your mind seems a little underdeveloped.
Fine Lady Feminist- although i may grant you that this website provides a forum to discuss and debate issues, it is also true that the overall membership of this site has already(at least to some extent) accepted in their mind that g-d created everything, commanded us in right and wrong and they attempt to do his wishes. For the most part no one here is interested in arguing with the denial of G-D and his torah. WE have already accepted the falsity of that. We’re not interested in arguing with missionaries. WE have already accepted the falsity of that. We’re not interested in defending chazal against the likes of you. WE are secure and steadfast in our knowledge that hashem wrote the torah and commanded us to emulate his middos and gave us other commandments to help us reach that goal. We’re not interested in debating that. We know that already, we have already accepted that truth and it is not necessary for us to debate with the goyim to make us feel secure.
It seems to me that the majority of the posts regarding right and wrong are focused on what is right meaning what does G-D want me to do as opposed to what is right meaning is G-D right.
I apologize (feeling confident that I represent the general membership of “Yeshivaworld”) that we cannot help you to quiet your yetzer tov who is screaming at you, but we have batter things to do than trying to answer the questions of an irrational mind.
Outoftowner
You are a living example of why daas torah is so important. You are wrong from your opening sentence to your closing argument…..and you also happened by chance to completely miss the point. Seeing as it is right after yom kippur, I may grant that you will never want to face the truth, but I feel the need to point out your absurdity to anyone willing to face logic even if they don’t like it.
You begin by saying that “We have a big problem these days.” Really? We have a big problem these days? This is a new problem that just came up that you did not know about when your children were young and you gave them all kinds of candy at every opportunity? When you were young ugly people were pretty and let me guess the guys would only marry girls older than them. Right. OK.
And I quote your last point:
“I just don’t think it is right, and many times you should not judge a person at face value, by appearance alone, and if you look a little beyond surface deep you will find something beautiful you weren’t willing to give a chance before.”
You seem to feel that it is definitely true that just because a guy won’t marry her then it must be true that he is only looking “surface deep”. I would say that it is very possible that he knows all about the stuff under the surface and he’s not judging her at face value and if there was only one thing necessary in a marriage(that being “wonderful, beautiful, amazing girls, who have good middos, are tzanua, are pleasant, and sweet, who have good jobs, and looking forward to raising a family”)then he would marry her, BUT there are other things that might hold him back. Maybe she’s 44. Is that looking skin deep? Maybe she’s got no arms. Is that looking skin deep? Maybe she’s not jewish. Is that looking skin deep? Maybe she’s fat. Is that looking skin deep? Maybe she’s 22 but divorced with newborn triplets. Is that looking skin deep? Maybe she smokes like a trucker. Is that looking skin deep? Maybe a combination of the above. That doesn’t mean that she’s not “wonderful, beautiful, amazing girls, who have good middos, are tzanua, are pleasant, and sweet, who have good jobs, and looking forward to raising a family” It just means that the average guy is not going to marry her. ostrasized
Finally, you completely missed the point. We’re talking about a person’s life here. We’re talking about choosing a person to become a part of oneself to form a whole. Is someone expected to even consider thinking about how other people will feel about their decision? Should a person marry someone just to help a crisis? If you will answer yes, I suggest you insist that all fat girls and smoker boys should marry each other.