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minyan gal i surmise ur from toronto. im not probing. if u kno the situation there then you kno that not all the MO women there cover there heads. i can think of names. alot of them.
gavra. thats pointely not true. MO believes theres what to take out of mada that is chochma and not necessarily in accordance with tora. why learn shakespeare and quote it,(vihameivin yovin) aint no particular torah values there. and in regard to mixed schools as a kiruv/bidieved- how did that somegow grow to include regular MO totally observant ppl?? this ones really tough
As i understand the difference between MO an R’ Hirsch. MO beliueves there is what to glean from secular study that cannot be gleaned from the torah, and, by studying both, a person can come to realize a bigger fuller picture. tora im derech eretz does not.
A rebbe once told me that the correct response to this question is..”toothpaste”. huh? every jew shoulds grow up to be the best eved hassem they can. how you put food on the table isnt you. how many blatt gemara you learn is you. so toothpaste is just as valid an answer as lawyer.(assuming that being toothpaste makes money)
adi ran. awesome
i think it would be fun to chill in the coffee room telling everyone how much you learsn!! joke.someone had to
what are you afraid of. chill
stil awake. its nearly two in the afternoon
I think because the askenazic yeshivos are the majority and more mainstream, the sephardi bnei torah want to feel part of that bigger whole so they adopted the “yeshivish” mode of dress. It also looks more bakovodik today then a turban
When I grow up I wanna be a triangle!!!!!
(heard from a kid for real)
he doesnt have trhem yet silly. he gets them in the yichud room!!
Prominent Kallah teacher told me it has no mekor whatsoever
panasonic lumix. unbeatable.at B & H
see how they react to sideways compliments.bashful or all pumped about themselves
can any1 address my conundrum above? Why does the MO camp have co=ed camps and mingling; and its considered accepted and not dangerous. I’ve never heard of an MO rav coming out against it. please explain. and if that really is accepted it doesn’t sound like the type of people who have real sh’eefos in avodas hashem
i think i got modded b4. see artdcrolls biography on r hirsch. tora im drech eretz is diametricaly opposed to torah umaada. theres a quote from norman lamm saying so.
i also don’t understand one thing. why cling to a belief and ideal that is self-admittedly (i just made up a word) failing.in the O community intergender mingling is looked upon with didain although it does occur- pizza shops etc. MO has co-ed camps. why don’t their leaders put a cherem on it if its opposed to their ideal. there are no reactions to everything wrong that happens. it makes no sense.
mw13 R’ hirschs hashkafa of tora im derech eretz and MOs hashkafa of torah umaada are not only not alike- they are diametrically opposed. see artscrols biography of r hirsch. r hirsch held that torah reigns supreme and with it secular subjects can be understood better whereas r norman lamm (quoted in the biography -not me-) says that both torah and secular subjects have what to glean from each other. look there. if i keep writing il;l get modded. also worthy to note that r hirsch was emphatically opposed to the state of israel and for some reason MO decided that r hirsch had their agenda. again this i believe to be factual- see his biography by artscroll. he actually mazintained a position closer to satmar then the rest of the jewish community. i know everyone will say i’m crazy and ignorant but this is historically accurate. kol tuv
Blintz- I understand your indignance. And i dont mean to say that youve done wrong. obviously not every, or even many, couple seudos cause problems. But the same way that internet is only thouroughly destructive a minute percent of the time, and texting doesnt always derail a teens yiddishkeit, why would people engage in an idea which can, and does, wreck marriages. I have heard the actual stories from her. You dont kknow cuz your not involved in this area.)
I have a personal relationship with a prominent kallah teacher in a big city in america. She told me that you wouldnt believe how many aveiros and divorces come out of couple meals. You really wouldnt believe it. Unless your oisek in that field then all your theorizing about it is worthless. It is very very bad. And you are uninformed
You mean thats not marriage?
I have a personal relationship with a prominent kallah teacher in a big city in america. She told me that you wouldnt believe how many aveiros and divorces come out of couple meals. You really wouldnt believe it. Unless your oisek in that field then all your theorizing about it is worthless. It is very very bad. And you are uninformed
Agreed
By extension, why are the only windows to the outside of the dira also in the bathroom- specifically in the shower!!!
Ya but someone else might dump him. I say play it safe. He can take it off on date 2
ya i was serious. long time observer and new poster. guess now i dont need to worry about shidduchim
Getting married this coming week
protocol in the general yeshivish world calls for the hat to be left on for the whole first date. Don’t judge a guy negatively if he does. Some would dump him outright for not leaving it on.
I think it depends on why he drives the car. If he’s a speed freak (not cosidering the health risks involved) then I don’t think it’s a problem. But if it really is because he wants to be seen and be seen in this way, it kind of gives you a glimpse about the person’s pnimius that’s not so desirable in a responsible husband
women do not get it. over. and they can’t. the same way we don’t get them
Does your family eat beets on Shavuos??
It’s my birthday now!!yes i’m really old. clearly not or i wouldn’t be happy
I’ll be there soon!!! Achakeh lo b’chol yom sheyavoh
Ditto
depends on your relationship with them
I’m not sure which derech you used to approach your father. you could try from the frum perspective and explain its value in ruchnius if you feel that your father will respond positively. if not since your a teen it may work to pull the individuality card. but as i wrote above don’t get heated over it
Gimme a break where’s the lack of kibbud av if the inyan can be explained without getting in an “i’m frummer then you” fight. if you can sit down and have a discussion about it and explain it he’ll see it your way. if it does become a personal issue then drop it. when you’re a bit older and more experienced try again.
There once was a man from Darjiling
who travelled all the way to Neeling
the sign on the door
said don’t spit on the floor
so he carefully spat on the ceiling
oy vey that sounds like my mother…Pass the blue bottle!!!
Achashveirosh also served glatt kosher. set and match
this generation,being so ignorant as a whole, and leting their feelings and passions make hashkafic decisions for them, is not qualified to decide large hashkafic issues. Those who do have a right are the great rabbis who have recieved guidance from their rabbeim on matters of hashkafa and how to think. taanos like”they do so much for us” etc. don’t address the actual issue of its existence.
Random advice to guys- really random things can make a first date uncomfortable so keep any extreme stories to yourself
Mike- i’ll find you the mishna brura that expressly assurs going to stadiums. I don’t remember where but it it says in shulchan aruch mishna brura that stadiums and theaters are assur
now we have three categories. playing, watching (tele…), and going.three dif topics. care to specify
I believe that anyone with a bit of seichel will tell you to act cordially to them. I believe the halachic issue raised here is the gemara that states that a ger is kikotton she’nolad dummi. which means he has no halachic relationship to his family. ask a lor
sounds like playing no? cuz watching as a question would apply to anyone
depens on the boy, the yeshiva,the upbringing, and where he’s holding in life. in terms of excercise one can argue that its more fun while playing sports but theoretically (and i know this is annoying) you could just run up and down stairs for a while