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not end of story. with deepest kavod for above comments i dont think the issue is whether the family approves, though its good they did and took nechama. the issue is whether this is the way that the am segula is supposed to deal with a tzara. by listening to a song, albeit a moving one? or does Hashem want us to strengthen our observance and be mekabel something etc. thats the issue
ToiParticipantah minyan gal you make me proud. wonderful place. just wonderful
ToiParticipantmy gut feeling is to agree. but the fact that this occuring on a wide scale must mean something.
ToiParticipantno CV dont entertain the thought. im probably the farthest rightwing person in here. (ay internet? good q. for another time and place and in private) what i meant was that klal yisroel has to go according to its current gedolim and we can be assured were doing ok if we follow the gedolim. if u go on your own system then who knows. and maybe R shach ztl was talking for EY or maybe even after a few years he’d be maskim nowadays. we cant know. but what our gedolim do and how they feer us now we can depend on
August 15, 2011 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm in reply to: Kohanim not being able to go to exhibits with real dead people. #800169ToiParticipanto k cool thanks
August 15, 2011 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm in reply to: The Great Debate: Ultra-Orthodoxy vs. Modern Orthodoxy #798643ToiParticipantouch. touche. mod has spoken
August 15, 2011 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm in reply to: The Great Debate: Ultra-Orthodoxy vs. Modern Orthodoxy #798639ToiParticipanttwisted. the verb is blasphemize. important to know when attempting big words
ToiParticipanto dont be confused. what i meant with my tone was to express my indignation at the way the biggest RYs are being spoken about. they know what theyre doing. klal yisroel should trust its leaders. and thirty year old rabbonim (while choshuv-sometimes) are not klal yisroels leaders
August 15, 2011 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm in reply to: Kohanim not being able to go to exhibits with real dead people. #800167ToiParticipantk thats not so smart. i dont think you get the issue. if cow is kosher then being makpid not to eat cow isnt praiseworthy- im sure youll agree its downright dumb.so. goyim arent mitaameh b’oihel- i believe thats how w we paskin. if so there is no halachic grounds for a kohen not to go in. and anonymous, roiv here isnt bassar vichalav. if roiv dead bodies are goyim then halachically the bodies in these exhibits will be assumed to be goyim.
August 15, 2011 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm in reply to: Kohanim not being able to go to exhibits with real dead people. #800166ToiParticipantthank you. so whta the deal
August 15, 2011 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm in reply to: The Great Debate: Ultra-Orthodoxy vs. Modern Orthodoxy #798631ToiParticipantanonymous: you seem to have showed up late to a two week discussion. had you beem here you would have seen that R hirschs hashkafa differs greatly and in fact disagrees with MO. he was also emphatically against zionism. see his biography by artscroll. you seem to need to brush up on your hashkafa awareness. and youre point of our leaders being MO sounds like you had an agenda b4 you went looking. you went to find examples that fit the bill. next time study the avos and come to unbiased conclusions that arent pre concieved. seriously where do you come up with this?!
August 15, 2011 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm in reply to: The Great Debate: Ultra-Orthodoxy vs. Modern Orthodoxy #798623ToiParticipantanonymius: one of the rishonim on last weeks parshah says that one of the reasons that moshe couldnt go into EY was because he was thought to be ish mitzri and didnt stand out as a jew.a rishon. pshat.
ToiParticipantwhats a veggies favorite rock star?
Elvis parsley. I’m honestly embarassed to know this. Laffy Taffy…
August 15, 2011 3:10 pm at 3:10 pm in reply to: The Great Debate: Ultra-Orthodoxy vs. Modern Orthodoxy #798619ToiParticipantya ok it thats pretty dumb. briskers have a bunch of stories from the gra and r chaim volozhin about how hergesh isnt what we serve hashem with. maybe he meant that MO is colder and more scientific as opposed to a molre dveikusdik’ ruach of chareidim
ToiParticipantyour all dumb. do you think the rosh yeshivas today are blockheads? do you think theyre turning a blind eye to what klal yisroel needs? maybe in america more iyun is needed to fight the spirit of the times, who knows?! go ask the gedolei yisroel- not shoot down every RY in north america. theyre acting on mesorah and guidance from rabbeim.and somehow they know shas (the real RYs- not every 30year old shnuk in lakewod who was a rosh chaburah). Lo sassur yemin u’smol still applies.have a little faith and keep shtaiging
ToiParticipantmazal-luck.mazalos-stars that have certain level of control/ can be used to tell future. mazel tov at wedding? sounds real to me. brachos like ‘zol zein in a gutte shoh’ means when your mazel is good so you should have succes.doesnt sound goyish to me
August 15, 2011 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm in reply to: Kohanim not being able to go to exhibits with real dead people. #800161ToiParticipantit seems to be a concensus f kohanim i know and when such an exhibit appeared in toronto where i there was an effort by rabonim to inform the kohanim. i dont get why
ToiParticipantcasa loma is an old castle built by an important british dude. very coo. for some reason it was never finished dont remember why. nice to know theres a toronto community here. i was getting a little sick of brooklyn hack
ToiParticipantk so maybe this thread was trolling because in previous threads it appeared that the basis for a lot of MO hashkafa was CbGT. and now youre all saying its not a directive. I know i just opened a can of worms but i wante to see what you all would say in a neutral setting. i had an agenda and everyone followed through perfectly. thanks
ToiParticipantgmara says your chayiv dmay vlados.
August 15, 2011 7:26 am at 7:26 am in reply to: Young, newly-married couples making shidduchim #797504ToiParticipantk in theory its nice to split the titles. however freinds take it way more personally if you reject advice they give you about where to go, what the next step is and the like. obviously the decision is still yours and hopefuly their negative feelings wont impact your decision but that doesnt mean that the freindship wont suffer. mine did greatly. also, issues that a shadchan should be willing to raise to either side become much more touchy and personal. its not fun. does the possible gain outweigh the risk
ToiParticipantHaifa girl; you’re unfortunately not all that proficient at punctuation. If you really enjoy it and want to learn how to punctuate correctly I would suggest the book ‘Eats, Shoots, and Leaves’. It may help you hone your skills.
ToiParticipantthe tie thing has been going on for a while. wheres the kavod shabbos? but any guy that posted this and goes out for kiddush club…
ToiParticipanttoronto is a regular city. im not sure if you guys expected ice fishing. regular rules apply
ToiParticipantI know the translation. that wasn’t the question. mitzius/rishus or tzivuy.
August 14, 2011 3:43 pm at 3:43 pm in reply to: The Great Debate: Ultra-Orthodoxy vs. Modern Orthodoxy #798594ToiParticipantit’s R Yakov Galinsky Shlita’s Line
ToiParticipanta ben noach is chayim misa for an abortion. yidden aren’t. the gemara says that until 40 days the vlad is maya bi’almah- water.
ToiParticipantwhy should it focus on contribution to the tzibbur. firstly even if your right the zchus of ones limud hatorah is the biggest contribution to the tzibbur. and without that a persons learning is his avodah to hashem- who are you to say that to be called succesful he has to show contribution- what do you want a chiddush quota complete with a flowchart?
ToiParticipantFrequently the coffin is placed inside the earth
ToiParticipantuse nishnushim!!!
ToiParticipantha good story. a freind of mine’s mother and aunt were on the bus and there was an extraordinarilly large woman sitting near them. one turned to the other and said in hebrew- tistaklee- hee shmeina k’moh parah. upon which the lady turned to them pointedly and said…” Moooo”.
ToiParticipantIt’s Mivu’ar in Mishna Brura that any verbal comunication constitutes a hefsek aside from what wolf was saying above such as asking for the knife or salt etc.
ToiParticipantBEAT red B”H never happened. BEET red? way too often. not sharing
ToiParticipantim from toronto- hotel lobby/ hotel lounge for a drink and shmooze. zehu
ToiParticipantjosh- the chofetz chaim explained that in a siyum it says that we work and are mikabel schar whereas the goyim work and dont get schar. Q: Goyim do get paid! A: the yget paid for a job well done ie- contribution and mastery- we get paid for doing actual work even without a seemingly concrete result. we get schar for ameilus. even a guy thats not smart and cant read a tosfos if he sits and works for hours with no succes Hashem still gives him tons of schar.
ToiParticipantmw13- thank you. i think that aftewr your post no further arguements are ever necessary ad oilum. how can these relationships not be considered a spiritual sakonnoh to any honest thinking yid. and for that to be part of an idealogy is downright nuts. i think the debates r over.
ToiParticipantthe idea isnt who gave rishus or whos making money- though obviously thats a side issue worthy of mention- rather the fact that theres a terrible tragedy in klal yisroel and we run to music studios.go sit and cry. learn musar. be mekabel something. and if putting out a single is what hashem really wants (as if) do it anontmously. but stop the commerciliozation. and moishele i dont think at that point took chizuk. he was three
ToiParticipantcouldnt agree more. and for the record the goyim notice too. not that thats needed as a reason.
ToiParticipantAgh!! what i mean is- even if your not reading it for the unappropriate things they are there and youre still reading them and theyre still making an impression on that little piece of Hashem inside you. do you think hashem gets nachas when you go out lokking for the “chochma” in shakespeare?! please!
ToiParticipanti felt the same way about the bombing RL in mumbai but i wasnt a member to post my opinion. Oyyy!! moishele!! gimme a break
ToiParticipantcommercializing a tzara?? is thtat normal. are we bereft of all sensetivities?!?!
ToiParticipantconcensus shmonsensus. look in the gemara.
ToiParticipantim sory the whle idea is disgusting.
ToiParticipantpersonally i find it disgusting
ToiParticipantGavra. how can anything detrimental to your spiritual well-being be something you are mitzuva to do. sounds kinda dumb. also i think that shakespeare is more spiritually threatening then the druggy on your street
ToiParticipantGotta love american indignance
ToiParticipantdo you really believe that CbGT means shakespeare. i happen to read shakespeare. how many of his witticisms and jokes have an inappropriate connotation and can put things in your head that Hashem frowns upon. and if you still argue thats chochma and should be read then CbGT must just mean the mitzius- not that you should learn it.
ToiParticipantchochma bagoyim doesnt mean to apreciate the twisted musings of a rabid anti semite.it means scientific theory and fact.
ToiParticipantminyan gal i surmise ur from toronto. im not probing. if u kno the situation there then you kno that not all the MO women there cover there heads. i can think of names. alot of them.
ToiParticipantgavra. thats pointely not true. MO believes theres what to take out of mada that is chochma and not necessarily in accordance with tora. why learn shakespeare and quote it,(vihameivin yovin) aint no particular torah values there. and in regard to mixed schools as a kiruv/bidieved- how did that somegow grow to include regular MO totally observant ppl?? this ones really tough
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