Syag nails it, again.

This thread is awful, and anyone disparaging our teachers, Rabbeim, and Moros should be ashamed of themselves. These are the people (speaking in general, not the bad apples) dedicating their lives to helping your children become mature, healthy, productive adults. That you feel the need to discuss how much money you’re comfortable with them making and to question whether they deserve it, calls your character into question, nothing less. Utterly pathetic, totally disheartening. Applying rules of economics to a Rebbi’s salary? Is that what they are? Supply and demand? Are these people are nothing more than providers of a service? You compare them to some boor catching a football, while they’re engaged in the guaranteeing the future of klal yisroel? This thread is astonishing in its audacity. I’m just floored.

Well, NOYB, if none of those things were to occur, say you could disable warnings and lights going on and off, and preset the car to overcompensate no matter what the occupant’s weight was,etc. shouldn’t it be fine? Aside from hashkafik discussions about kovod shabbos, etc.

IITFT- Dayn yiddish shtinkt a sach.

Jackk- Your donkey ears are showing…

Most normal people who learnt in Brisk would define talmid solely based on learning; how to approach, tear down, and build the sugya, and perhaps, certain elements of the ‘brisker’ hashkafa. The people who think talmid means taking on the kooky brisker chumros and wacko hanhagos are just that- kooky wackos. They tend to be, by and large, american baal tshuva flipouts.

Oh.

J&J? Why not just go for mountain dew?

Hey! So funny, I just came back too, a few weeks ago. Nice to see the old crowd, and glad to have you back.

Depends what you mean. Do you mean that the guy will have to pretend to feel nothing, and the idea of being close to a girl and stopping there will drive him crazy, yes, it will. Does it mean he could in theory have that friendship and never act on those feelings, and limaaseh have a friendship that’s tough for him to keep in check, yes, he can. Why is it any different than someone who’s MZ being friends with a regular guy?

When you get too big for your britches.

Didn’t see the vid, but maybe they’re starting the cut to make it easier to tear?

“…with a demand for the complete Geulah…”

We don’t demand things from Hashem. When we daven, we express yearning. When you demand, you’re stamping your feet like some spoiled, entitled child. No-one else seems to view chazal’s emphasis on davening for Moshiach/ the Geula as a call to be the latter.

Your best bet is Twillory, great fit and quality, but pricey, even on sale. CT is great quality too, fit not as snug, less expensive.

Midwesterner- CS doesn’t reply to my posts, hiding behind some sort of ‘lack of civility’ veil. It’s the result of a thread where the whole chabad got trashed about still davening to a dead Rebbe. I don’t care whether or not she addresses my posts, I still feel it’s important to point out when she slips in things that the average reader may not pick up on, and when the chabad hiskashrus/occasional avoda zara creeps in. When I write cuckoo, I really mean everything you wrote, I just don’t have the koiach to do it every time.

@Avi K-

You said:
1. Toi, we are dealing with people who either have undergone giur or are children of those who have (the main Beta Israel aliya occurred almost forty years ago although there were aliyot before and after). The Eida does not recognize anyone outside their own little circle as being real observant Jews.

2. I saw three hechsherim on Barkan wine: Rabbanut, Badatz Bet Yosef (established by Rav Ovadia – the Bet Yosef is machmir on the percentage of water allowed and once at a wedding RO said “shehakol” on the wine) and Chug Chatam Sofer (Chareidim, mainly Chassidim and mainly in Petach Tikva and Bnei Brak). As Barkan is sold internationally I presume that the other two are non-Israeli and thus do not appear on Israeli labels.

3. I have already listed the kullot that come from this chumra. Scroll up.

Here are the answers. You bet like heck I’m gonna copy this whole thing before posting in case I get another error.

1. That is unverified; you have no idea if that’s true. Even if true, the Eida may be taking issue with the geirus performed, specifically if it wasn’t taken very seriously in the first place, as is their right. Your last statement at the end of this point is blatant motzi shem ra, and you probably just threw it in cuz you don’t like them.

2. How is anything in this point relevant to the conversation. Rabbanut is literally a worthless hechsher, this is not a political opinion, no one in Israel who takes their judaism seriously will eat it. I dont mean chareidim, I mean anyone. My mizrachi relatives wont eat rabbanut, and ive met other mizrachis who refuse to eat it, insisting they refuse to go to hell just for politics. People coming from the USA are simply ignorant about how pathetic a hechsher rabbanut is, and fall prey to the “hebrew words=kosher” syndrome. BBY is not much better, and regarded as nearly worthless by most people. R Ovadia wanted to make a rabbanut style hechsher for sfardim, mostly for instances where rabbanut/ashkenazi kulos rendered the food unkosher for sfardim. It’s not a better hechsher, it just avoids the ashkenazi psakim that sfardim hold to be trief. Secondly, you’ve just unwittingly exposed an utter lack of knowledge on the subject of Israeli hechsherim. CS of BB and PT are two entirely different hechsherim. CSBB was better when R Vosner ztl was alive, now not as good but still decent. CSPT is awful, to quote R Berkowitz- an american, highly regarded, entirely non fanatical posek “having a CSPT hechsher on a product doesn’t make it treif.”
3. No

Ugh, I wrote a lengthy post pointing out all the problems (well, maybe just most) in Avi’s post, only to get an error message. No way I’m doing that all again. But, it does remind me of a maaseh with R Elya ztl. Supposedly, he was shtark being loichem feminists, specifically one awful woman in particular who was promoting beliefs antithetical to Torah values. One erev y”k or erev r”h (don’t recall) he dialed someone’s number with whom he wished to speak. Well hashgacha P kicked in, and he misdialed, reaching the very woman whose behavior he had so vigorously attacked. Now, most people would take this as providence, with the hidden message that they were to make peace with the other party. Not so R Elya; he understood that this was the yetzer hara’s plan, and resolved to strengthen his efforts, and drive this machsheifa away once and for all. The end. So while I’m certain the error message was certainly the yetzer hara trying my patience, I am so super lazy, there’s no way I’m retyping the whole long rebuttal I had attempted to post before.

I think the yeshivos in EY should learn it, so the bochurim will be able to protect themselves from the yassam and balashim.

Chutzpa yasgi- Your whole thread is a kiyum, though I’m not sure of anything more than the literal teich.

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@CS because, once again, these things are not in our job description. That’s why R chaim kanievsky, the belzer rebbe, and R mutzpi are not hiking around the far east looking for cool tribes with pseudo judaic customs.

Invaluable for tying up annoying younger brothers on road trips. Trust me.

Seriously, no one cares. Stop pushing your Chabadsky agenda.

How deep we talkin?

Soak your batim in tomato juice for a week.
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This is a joke. I normally would not write that my post was a joke, for nearly all my posts are joke posts, but I do not want my joke post to passel your tefillin.

Do you mean shi’eefois and veist ois?