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actually, itch, i would.i prefaced my remarks by saying that i wasnt talking about the rebbe per say, rather pointing out that 147’s logic that being intelligent and graduating from an ivy league school, or an equivalent, isnt grounds to be a posek. i think you agree. your mistake was that since i responded about the lubavitcher rebbe it must have been a negative response, without reading my post. i would say it about any person, rebbe or not.
tell your friend (male) to walk over to a wall head bowed feet shoulder width apart and hands on his belt. its funny, o is it funny.
take a quarter and glue it to the floor in a shopping mall. go up a flight and watch people try to pull it off the floor.
this ive done- go to your friends dira in geula, four or five flights up, and drop 10 agurot coins on people. Ha!
i didnt read the other posts so this couldve been said already. but i dont care:
in middle of a boring lecture/shiur/shmooze look at the guy sitting next to you and tell him htta youll both cough your brains out on three. and then dont cough. and its funny.
he’s made music into a carnival.
147- im not gonna get into an anti lubob shmooze here, but graduating from a prestigious secular school is hardly grounds enough to paskin halocho. and i dont think that smart and intelligent qualify one as a posek.
watch out for the really oversalted ground up fish at S”S.
wolf, there are people you can speak to.
zdad- you said “In fact many FRUM people are forced to be Blue collar workers because they are uneducated in the frum world. many can barely speak english. many are barely literate in english.”
Now, I’m not the biggest fan of irony, nor do I always find it funny, but you just hit a grand slam.
zionists are bad.
DY- agreed.
poster that he quoted- youre in dire need of halachic guidance.
contor- im not interested in gettin involved in the same shmooze on a dif. thread for the zillionth time but your clear ignorance of the shittos of R shamshon and R hildesheimer arent a right to go use them to back up mo. theyd be the first to smack you.
itch-LOL
i remeber it talks about making a bracha cuz its a medicine with beet juice no?
chumros bug me. but chumra haters, them i want to hit.
being judgemental is more fun. popa is just mental.
bump. no one commented and im being a baby. harumph.
sam4- isnt walking in between 2 women beause of AZ?
yit- its mivuar that olives are bad for remembering your learning if eaten often, but olive oil is good for it. the gemara says that if your marbeh bishemen you get chachmah. theres even a pshat in chumash that yaakov avinu had olive oil in his mateh, and he drank it to help his learning.
Mark twain. hey, it could happen.
go check out the sefer shmiras haguf vihanefesh (hanefesh vuhaguf?). I went through t once and dont remeber a thing. ironic no?
maybe itll empty your head so it wont hurt anymore?
whyd they use a hand with two thumbs as a model. always bugged me.
one- try Eats, Shoots, and Leaves. its a hysterical book on grammar, if you can believe that.
aww shucks zees, my first shlita lol.
Itche- I know you wont like this, but shouldnt the ideal be yungeleit and wannabes? and if they need to leave to go work thats more then fine but i think their hearts should remain in the beis medrash. to be a baal habos by choice ie. to decide that learning isnt the way to go and id rather live my life by choice in the office shouldnt be the ideal for anyone. I dont mean working is a necessary evil, its not evil, but learning should be held in higher esteem. Thus, baalibatim by choice are a good species to be endangered.
my brother dressed up as a nuke. after enough wine he exploded! the effects are still being felt in the milk you drink.
crazybrit- haggis for all!
o darn it, i didnt want to reply on this thread, thought it would be shtultzy not to. ho hum.
pba- chareimim/prushim are the tzibbur started by the talmidei haGra and the baal ahem. They joined when they all came to EY. The hasidim compromised on their minhagim and nusach etc., and the talmidim of the Gaon on their dress, which the chasidim saw to be more important. The term chareidi was later applied more generally to the chassidish/litvish older yerushalmi community, and somehow nowadays, wrongly i think, has become associated with the righter wing of yiddishkeit. sources abound but i cant think of one now. in any case, calling everyone besides mo chareidi is laughable, its simply a misnomer.
oomis- i wont give you my opinion because, lets be honest, it wont change yours, nor do you plan on changing it. youre ideas kneged kollel are clearly set in stone, which is fine, youre entitled. but lets be honest, most guys that go to work are not nearly as yeshivish as yungerleit in kollel. i didnt say not as frum- they could be on par with yeshivileit in that regard, but as yeshivish? No way. and i really dont get you. if a girl wants to marry a working boy, fine. if she wants to marry a parapalegic, im sure youd be able to write an essay on how beautiful it is, and the schar shes getting, and what a deep person she must be. But to think of a girl who wants her husband to learn? that must be motivated by ulterior motives, and there cant be a tzad to be matzdik her. terrible, just terrible.
itche- im not sure wht youre refering to but ive unfortunately seen my fair share of “yiddish’ humor and its revolting.
Hey, ive got another- it was common practice in europe for in-laws to commit to ‘kest’ which meant that couples ate all or a specific number of meals at the in-laws to save them money. ad kidei kach that i read a story about a gadol (cant remember who) who took his FIL to a din torah because he defaulted on kest and it affected his learning (they did have kollel back then!), and this thread was a bit started to be mafki’ah from the idea of kollel, so i think its matim.
O herees a good one: Katchannez. Any guesses?
aussi- it doesnt mean that at all
Grada- best teich- as an aside. I said that then too.
carrot.
itche- at least their humor was teefer.
refers to chosson going to future in laws for shabbos. has to be on best nehavior etc. pretty rusty, been there done that.
equal rights say the feminists; let them go down too.
talking to muffins.
yser- maybe teach 3 year olds about what it means to live alternate lifestyles and then let them chose. there is NO maaleh of having kids who are knowledgable in greek mythology. gravity is nogeiah in day to day life, so is math, history and english., but why teach our children paganism and AZ!?! Do you want kids to entirely leave the fold? cuz your mehalich hachinuch would be perect. yuch on you.
zdad- you’re too briliant. maybe he said book and wasnt refering to a written book, he was just adding a ‘beiz’ on to kook and taking off the k. youre insight is without peer.
zess- i dont mean he shouldnt be informed of the various errors in hashkafa, rather that this thread shouldnt be used as a spring board to blast gedolim.
ut azoi!
pops- health insurance gets covered by bituach li’umi, ends up being less thenm that in sheqel. probably 250-300 sheq.
zdad- aha. so you have an agenda. why not just put your cards on the table? if you want to start a blog letting out your pent uprage at how gedolim are to blame for the holocaust the by all means, but please, not here.
rent- minimum, really low 850-1000. if in yerushalayim, i dont mean givat zeev or ramot.
every shabbos-around 75-100
bills- depends on what you have but between bezeq, chashmal,gichon, etc.-300.
groceries, clothes, toiletries-depends.
eating out once a month
and then IY”H you have a kid.
Gaw-thanks.
agreed feif. but thats not justification to dissolve the concept.
zdad-no-one wants to live in a shtetl. they want to take whatever maalos there were in a shtetl that alowed them to better serve their Boreh and have them there too. i dont think they want to travel in wagons.
Daas torah is the idea that a person, a kadosh vitahor, who immerses himself in torah and the words of chazal, works on his middos and has achieved heights in judasim, views modern day happenings through the prism of torah, and decides things accordingly. the more deviant a person is from the ways of Hashem, the less his mind will work with torah principles, and fakehrt gohr, he will view things through his own prism which consists of personal nigi’us and taavos oilam hazeh. such a person-the first type- is therefore more qualified to offer or be asked his views on things which require a deeper, less obvious understanding/ position then that of the layman. to illustrate (this isnt entirely accurate but i tried) R’ Moshe ztl once issued a deiyah in regard to a certain matter. A person who felt strongly otherwise told r moshe that his view wasnt ‘daas torah’. R moshe responded,”Have you ever read a newspaper in your life? Well i havent- so what i think the torahs view is IS daas torah.” In other words, because R moshe was entirely immersed in shas and poskim, his very opinions emanated from the torah. i think thats pretty accurate.
zdad- glad to know you were there.
ut azoi!