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No. Youve already heard stories about the negative outcomes. If you havent, heres one. A group of girls in city X dressed up on purim and hit the streets. they ended up in houses pretnding to collect. they ended up getting drunk. they ended up dancing with boys. they were all regular by girls who meant to go out and enjoy purim, nothing more. and look what happened. not smart.
No One Mourns The Wicked Member- Your post seems a bit over the top. If not for the post title, I would think youre discussing cocaine. Chill. Your “most dangerous stage” line is laughable.
hachoiveil bachaveiro. and we paskin you cant be moichil.
i dont care.about grammar’
tho thpecial.
yes avi, but youre afraid to do so, reason or not. so youre being oiver too. so put a sock in it.
i think you saw the kid mannequin for that store in lakewood.
and whos 18 years young.
wow this is a troll thread if i ever saw one.
its the brisker ravs pshat in the gra. im following my rabbeim. bite me.
Alot of women are jerks.
i sometimes steal the lightbilbs,too. actually, i in general take anything not bolted down.
youre being machshil the rabbim by spouting your ridiculous zionist rhetoric. bite me.
zdad- are you saying that each person being able to fulfill a mitzvas asei on his own is a bad thing?
feif- There was separate seating in Europe too, even if you dont like it here.
I take the coffeemaker, too.
avi- you really love pulling out the “I decided youre being over lavvin and you cant do anything about it” card. dont tell me youve never, not once, complained about things in ey. so put a sock in it.
Speaking of which- rant: You dont live in EY, you dont understand israeli politics, istaeli way of life, or the way theyve been living for 200 yaers. So stop shtelling your american values and shittos, your political correctness and insight, and let the tzibbur in EY live as they have since before your parents were toilet trained. End rant.
Maybe you, as an expert mechanech, should go reform the system. Or maybe your personal feelings (as having been a victim?) wont allow you to see the maalos of such a punishment.
If the Gra was coming to tell us that he couldve quoted mifurassh’ mishnayos in Menachos. He’s going on leka tcheiles and says nignaz. So I think hes saying that its nignaz.
avi k- i liver here already. bite me. i wont become a citizen because im not interested in them trying to conscript my kids, maybe succeeding, and then reneging on all the promises they make to nachal chareidi, and making my kids listen to kol isha. and my being upset and despising zionism isnt a reason to get me to vote.
my sis told me that 1200 people applied to bjj, i dont think nachlas is holding there.
the sugya in gemara about lo sisgodidu is by halachah, so i dont know what your talking about. chacham, i understand this is a touchy subject with you, but im not going to be chozer from what i heard from rabbeim. and as for rashi, i was coming from pesachim there. not sure what you want. nishtakach means forgotten right? you cant remember what they forgot long time ago.
mdd- if something you cared about, a person or idea, was copyrighted or the like, would you sit back and relax while someone took that thing and disgraced/perverted it. or not. if you cared enough, it would bother you too.
mdg- agreed, but you miss my point. they would still exist, but they would no longer claim to have achieved the pinnacle of what the Jew can be.
Sephardim dont mix fish and milk products due to sakanah.
look at the gaon is S”A on the relevant siman. He brings down a midrash lihalachah, meaning that it was nignaz. nignaz, as per rashi, means forgotten. you cannot figure it out.
i dont think they do frum ones anymore. agav, someone i know went on birthright. they didnt allow him to go visit his chareidi relatives on saturday night, for fear that they would influence him. instead they forced him to go to bars in town for a more cultured experience. when he threatened to go to his relatives anyway, they threatened him with billing him for the entire cost of the trip they had payed for. doesnt sound like a group you wanna hang with.
let the zionists disappear and stop causing tremendous damage.
purple is so your color.
mdd- “And again, nobody thinks that frei Israelis are the true practitioners of Judaism. Nobody is mislead.”
you should get out more often. and btw, the frei israeli culture is the medina. there would not be a pride parade if not for the medina. so what in tarnation are you saying.
MDG- what i said was that ivrit was the only language not in existance when rashi lived, and therefore, the only one he couldnt possibly have spoken. i wasnt saying he spoke yiidish.
Avi k- ive heard many choshuve roshei yeshivos give shiur in english and hebrew, and they frequently switch to yiddish to say the crux of a vort. interestingly, a friend of mine in kby (gasp) told me the same thing, and constantly uses yiddish to better make a point while learning. i think you just have an agenda.
zdad- uhu.
Placing western values over those of the torah. retarded.
gerrer chassidim dont speak yiddish. but thats not really a kasha, they do alot of weird things noone else does.
mdg- brilliant. in a comparison between 3 languages french was the obvious choice.
mdd- i have no idea in tarnation what you just said.
pba- by now they stam have a chezkas paslus. doesnt matter who goes to whom. anyway, R Chaim al hashas says that a person cannot be a pireish, rather he bleibs a lokach min hakuvu’ah. A”S.
let them eat cake.
yiddish is better to learn in. I speak english yiddish and ivrit. You cannot come close in terms of clarity when saying a vort in english or ivrit. Also, as far as made up, ivrit is the only one of the three that the rishonim and achronim couldnt possibly have spoken, as it didnt exist. so if avi k means ancient refering to its longevity as opose to ivrit, well then hes bang on.
AOM- the claim you make to be oiver that lav is laughable. dibas rah al ha’aretz means on the land. NOT on a government who systematically fights against the torah. sheesh. a great grandson of R Moshe Feinstien ztl told me that in a letter to a relative, R Moshe informs him not to complain about the weather here, as he could be oiver the lav. i dont think callin bb a corrupt politician suffices, but hey, twist it veiter however you want.
avi k- i no longer answer your posts. But for the record, i obviously didnt mean they lose the title of jew, rather that the right to identify with the nation and shmiras torah umitzvos go hand in hand. theyre worse then goyim; they even got you to believe in a false messiah, while christianity didnt succede.
mdd- why in the world are you in support of a govt./culture that has ceded from the followers of torah true judaism. im not saying to give it to turkey, but having a frei state isnt stam less then ideal, its misleading, both in name and practice. The chazon ish in his lifetime said that maybe the Chasam Sofer would be able to come up with an eitzah to fix the situation klal yisroel found themselves in. the fact that we havent discovered it doesnt make the medina good.
mdd- we dont care what they mean. The jewish people are a nation only insofar as they are mishubid to the torah. if they dont subscribe they relenquish the maaleh. and then all that remains is an empty shell.
you have way too much time on your hands.
Sam2- i didnt read all the arguments against you but ill just say that you “feeling” all the gedolim/poskim have erred, and the fact that your argument is clearly an emotional one discredits you entirely. Not only in this shmooze, but any other. Cuz anytime you state what you think the halachah is, every other poster here is gonna go “hmm, wheres this guy coming from….” . I think you should just give it up.
health- you present arguments like a 10th grader. Its a classic case of “He who shouts louder is always right.” so im done.
kfb- yes, of course. the point being made is that if we give establishments an incentive, they will more enthusiastically promote a more acceptable environment. everyone wins. except the satan.
Forgetting all the lofty, hashkafic reasons; as important as they are. i spent a free night once at a pesach hotel (my friends father was the manager). The taaruvos between teens and couples was appaling. dont go.
itch- I hear. In other words, you read my post, didnt attempt to understand my point, and based on a previous grievance decided to use this thread as a way to show exactly how much i despise what lubavitch has done to the world in the last twenty years. You said it, not me. Good job.
Yakov- nice chassidishe’ pshat. But what happened to S”A?
oomis- I really think youre living in a dream world. Do you know what will happen if you allow your kids kosher taaruvos? One day you will find out that theyve been doing everything else that you thought you were preventing behind your back, and they only started because of the ‘kosher’ exposure you allowed them. I’m not sure, but i’d say im closer to my teenage years then you are, and youre grossly under-informed.
lagg arein mucho mucho lettuth.
health- the tree thing is a Gaon on S”A. everyone is makpid on trees. flowers are the accepted minhag now.