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leyzer- interesting you should demand one; its one of my biggest pet peeves on this site. people in fake life demanding apologies from other people in fake life. grow up.
the chareidi politicians dont make a move without consulting their manhigim. as such, you blasted not only a few MKs, but probably many of the rabbonim who guide klal yisroel. good job.
takah- bad idea. newsflash, the Israelis have not linked their computer systems.
you wont get nailed as a student. gimme a break. i know dozens of people who have a parent thats israeli and have pulled this off. OP, do not go to anyone official to help you, they will only mess you over. another pointer, when trying to avoid getting nailed by israelis, dont take advice from anyone on here who sympathizes with anything zionist, they have too much faith in a very messed up system.
ya that was dumb of you.
sorry pashut, no clue
147- ivrit is the language developed for kofrim. ben yehuda would be turning in his grave if he knew people were learning in ivrit.
what in the world is everyone going crazy about? any homeowner has the full right to lock a door to their house. for petes sake, its their house!! people do get stuff stolen and do have the right to protect themselves from any inconvenience, real or imagined. you people are retarded.
No. they will ask you for the names and maiden names of your mother and father, and where your g-parents were born. they may also ask if anyone of them is israeli. you need to say no. and stick to it.
I was in the presence of a great RY that when asked by a talmid as to what to tell them in this situation replied in yiddish, ven ich hob gigangen tzu misrad hapnim, ich hob zey gezogt az mine tatte’s nummen is moshe charles!
which it isnt.
wow, lashon hara on a whole tzibbur and their manhigim in one sentence. great job.
Sam2 – youre in luck. the ksav sofer onm this weeks parshah says that exact pshat. he says that harugei BDs’ nachla goes hefker (maybe?), and harugei malchus goes their nachlah to the king. heyos the rebellion was against moshe who had a din of a melech, it wouldve gone to him. so they said, he wasnt part of the rebellion. vdok!
Do NOT!!!! tell them you are israeli. the only real eitzah is to lie when you go dor your visa and change your arents names and where they were born. otherwise, theyll mkae you a citizen AND make you pay backtaxes since you were born. ive seen it. do not tell anyone in any official capacity that you are the child of a natural israeli. simple.
Do NOT!!!! tell them you are israeli. the only real eitzah is to lie when you go dor your visa and change your arents names and where they were born. otherwise, theyll mkae you a citizen AND make you pay backtaxes since you were born. ive seen it. do not tell anyone in any official capacity that you are the child of a natural israeli. simple.
ROB- ironicaly, statistics show that chareidim actually are the only class/sect in israeli society that pays more in taxes than they recieve. before you blurt out some dumb idea that im lying and full of baloney, go google it.
ou- you said- “I believe they are looking for unity with the Charieidim…”
that is a load of bunk.
i was being sarcastic. youre saying exactly what i meant from the beginning.
sorely misguided, and an aspiring talmid haham?
DY- rashi on either daf tes zayin or yud zayin amud alef in RH says how the two are different.
kinda ironic, erev parshas pinchs. He got brisi shalom for impaling 2 people on a spear. c’mon, wheres the achdus? better yet, why get brisi shalom as a reward for killing someone? maybe reward him with having strong kids or whatever? teretz is that achdus and shalom means to do what Hashem wants, and do it together, not watch you things wrong and stay quiet. if those who devote their very lives to serving Hashem see others doing things that there are valid halachic bases to avoid, theres no inyan to live and let live. im gonna go sharpen my spear.
feminist- thats not really due to religious considerations. the courts decision is based on the complaints of smaller business owners who cant afford the knas of staying open, while the larger stores can be michallel shabbos and cheshbon the knas into their budget. furthermore, its not really a recent decision, just a pledge to enforce an already-existing law. honestly, if noone would complain about the fines, the court wouldnt give two hoots about the situation. they dont care about the chillul shabbos at all.
writer- and when i wrote what shaychis, i clearly meant to say it was a good comparison.
ROB- are you kidding me? nearly anyone who was magee’a lihoraah found gorens heter laughable. why do you think it was classified at all? anyone with a decent svarah and raayos is proud to show it off, not insure that noone gets to see it. as far as your taana on R moshe, did you see the letter he wrote after goren finally got his heter declassified? this is a joke.
silly. a very nice chunk of chareidim want to go work. they legally cannot. what shaychis.
rational- i dont wanna get involved, but i would propose that the zionism of the 1800s and early 1900s is indeed dead, and the people living and learning in israel (at least the frumme) dont have a zionist agenda. honestly, lapid is the closest thing to a zionist, and I wouldnt want to be on his team.
uch i know omg its sooo annoying!!
GAW- i hear.
i agree with pba-sefer torah written by an apikores is ta’un sreifa. also see R hirsch’s opinion on benefiting from the institutions of those who veer in their yiddishkeit and establish alternative ways to serve Hashem, in his exchange with R bamburger.
GAW- i was making the point. youre right.
edit- GAW- if you really had the proper haarachah of a good cookie, youd understand.
rob- guess i misremembered.
nuh uh, you think this tam tam’s broken but really its not even.
i vote rd’s post the single most ironic post in history.
musser- dont you think thats dumb? if the price on a cookie is five dollars and i tell the guy to pay me for it and he agrees, thats perfectly valid. if my wife wants to be in this situation because of what she believes in, that would be ok. i find it hysterical that rd and rob apologize for the women of the wall and admit that their passion for tefillin is compelling, while my wifes passion to have me learn isnt as importnant.
dveykus said it well.
you wont criticize a women with a career whose husband works for putting in backbreaking hours and working solely to create a future for herself, but youll go to town on a woman who wants to build something eternal. brilliant.
ROB- thanks for your comments and assumptions. we disagree with you.
I really think it depends on whether this program is actually saving american lives. if they can prove that it has helped to whatever degree we decide to establish then the guys a jerk. if its regular govt. spying then hes just calling them out on it.
he was probably high.
shaaaaaaat aaaaaaaap!
haifa- stop driving people crazy. your incessant editing hijacks every thread and makes it into grammar color war. its annoying. seriously, go away.
nfgo3- you are clearly uninformed about the way it goes down in israel.
ya know, i didnt think of it like that. wanna get totally smashed tonite?
pba- you are retarded.
zdad- ill leave it up to you, seeing as youre so convinced youll find them.
mz- the concensus of roiv rishonim is that it applies to everyone. to say not is to be doresh taama dikra.
Rob- im fully aware of the mekkor, thank you.
My point was, this ramban is exactly addressing what you are speaking about. there are things that arent brought down in S’A and if one does them, they are considered a minuval. in other words, your free choice to do or not do things that arent required by halacha can give you the title minuval. voila.
Im gonna bump this for zdad.
i checked the Tur and S’A today. no heterim. sorry.
im not so keen about getting involved in this thread. id just like to point out to ROB the inyan of menuval bi’rishus hatorah. its real, and really bad. and, as far as i know, not in the S”A.
fleish al ha’aish.
ummm i dunnno? strawberry?
throw my shvigger out the window, a towel.
i think it doesnt pahs to make a joke like that with HKB”H’s name.
playtime- interesting you should mention that chain- the branch just off yechezkel that has a rubin or eida was required to put up the name as “H Bagel” instead of holy bagel.
jmh- that ones been bothering me for years.
vizeh lashon harambam- hilchos akum yud, daled:
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This thread is leibidig!! What up!!
if you start crying then ill really be convinced. check the codified books of jewish law. discussion closed.
Sam2- the kitzur is a machlokes rashi and tosfos uffen ort.
zdad- stopbeing thick. look up the poskim. you have an agenda and are being thick to further what you want to be true.