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sell. statistically the chance of you winning id still probably one in several hundered. thats awful chances. or 2 million bucks. no shailah.
Says me- are you a boy or girl? i have a really poshute rayya. go ask any man how often he is nichshol in shmiras einayim. i dont mean going on the internet stuff, i mean on the street. i will guarantee you the number is significantly higher than the percentage of girls walking around dressed not in accordance with the shulchan aruch. lichoirah that should be the best evidence.
ya honestly, the amount of hate directed at these people is astonishing. go read the comments on the articles pertaining to said oilam. the amount of blatant anti semitism some people here are throwing around is unbelievable. posters are literally besimcha when they read or post about another chareidi getting in trouble for tax evasion or a civil disturbance. one can almost imagine them salivating over every juicy piece of news. i think an ounce of maturity is in order here.
rd- “Reform, Conservative…” these people are kofrim. they are not a branch/sect of yiddishkeit. they dont practice judaism.
theyre high.
truth- you said “99.99999% of YESHIVHS, CHAREDI people don’t hold of the BR…” shussim. most litvishe yeshivos give great weight to what the rov held. R cahim said it too, that their tachlis as a movement is to destroy torah judasism.
DY- well presented.
GAW- i have no kochos to type out the response i just started and backspaced. suffice it to say that alot of what he’s doing targets nearly anyone religious, not just the chareidim, and that financial experts have already reported that the way he’s diverting money will put a sizable chunk of people below the poverty line, without any significant gains. lets rerail this thread, im tired.
GAW- chalmis means yerushalmis. satmar is included in chassidim. briskers, the actual family and following, shouldnt be counted as their own entity, as the actual family isnt large enough to impact anything, and the people who listen to them that dont belong to the actual mishpacha are yerushalmi anyways, for the most part. mea she’arimniks are eida/satmar. veiter included in the chalmi and satmar categories.
my point about being michalek between a draft en masse and not protesting the yechidim was only made because you juxtaposed to the two. anyway, i think we agree for the most part, except that if you were here youd agree that lapids efforts are what they seem, not fantasy, and thats he’s making life a heck of alot harder for the bnei yeshivos, besides the draft issue. that tells me he means business.
GAW- thats not accurate. the entire litvishe oilam looks to R shteinamn for hanhagah. the chalmis and chassidim dont. Its not that he’s being marginalized, his supporters simply arent as vocal. another point to consider is that while R aaron leib doesnt campaign against yichidim going to nachal chareidi, he’s very much against aplan to draft all the bnei yeshivos en masse. understand the distinction.
rd- you said- “thus highlighting the lack of halakhic commitment amongst those who go to Conservative synagogues. …”
is nt being conservative already indicative of a lack of halachic adherence, specifically because they are apikorsim?
i think capital letters should be banned. the shift key is terribly mislocated.
Gamanit- it does have a roof. mefurashe gemaras in zevachim.
Goq- i have nothing against not demeaning posters. look at what this dude wrote. it has nothing to do with a viewpoint. no-one of sound mind could claim that these organizations represent the spectrum of jews. heck, i dont think they would claim so. to claim so is to attempt to silence and discredit anyone else. after all, all the ‘real’ jews are represented by the above orgs. its the misrepresentation of klal yisroel that bugs me. thats all. the claim is patently false, and garbage.
ymh- come on, thats a joke.and bilaam was a tzaddik.
Sam2- you are correct. being smarter doesnt mean he would automatically think up every modrn convernience. i once asked my RY about Adam, Shlomo hamelech etc., who knew and understood the briyah. he explained it two ways. one was that their focus wasnt on figuring out these things; their every movement and thought was for avodas Hashem. like the midrash says that chanoch was miyached the Shem Hashem while making shoes. they simply were focused on the ruchny.
seond was more al pi kabbalah, or so he said. basically HKBH is mashpiah chochmah in to this world in doses, for whatever reasons He sees fit. the RY went through alot of history and showed how every time klal yisroel needed help from shomayim due to the poor state of their adherence or knowledge to/of judaism, Hashem helps out and sends them someone or a few gedolei torah to bring up the level overall in world jewry. when that hashpa’a hits us some of it mimeila ends up by the goyim, and the chachma gets used by them to further science etc.
“Organizations today such as the UJA/Federation, AIPAC, AJC, ADL, JNF, etc. represent the entire community…”
when are you gonna cut the garbage. these people dont represent me at all.
and if we mention this post, can you give us 10% off?
Sam2- we argued this out before, too. ive spoken with enough members of both parties. i based my conclusion on , for lack of a better word, research. no contest.
o well, i think it is.
ok but honestly, my favorite car doesnt win points for bhp, torque, mpg, 0-60 ot any of that stuff. I would pick a Porsche carerra GT.
sweetest car ever built.
taka- you make no sense.
jmh-it was a joke. i know the DB9 is an alfa romeo.
WIY- ive tried arguing this point with this poster on other occasions. it doesnt resonate with her. forget it.
maskim, youre 100% right.
147- oh, before the tzionim moved in and started telling the rabbonim what to do?
jmh- cheerios have holes in them.
nebach, at the expense of the fish.
Sam2- i seem to recall a Gra who is midayek the lashon that it does indeed mean to diminish, and not to eliminate, with regards to av.
147- and on yom haatzmaut, it starts whenever you want, cuz its made up anyway.
Bentley DB9
hit one really hard. then a kid will scream “my mommy said i should go to the head counselor if you touch us!” hit him too. that ought to do it.
I agree.
This is ridiculous. to suggest that the fact that klal yisroel fought milchamos in the midbar means that people are michuyav to join the IDF demonstrates a severe level of amaratzus. vayiftach Hashem ess pi ha’ason.
ROB- please dont “espouse chumors”, it sounds painful.
im getting mixed rememberings about a goys issur to be misaress.
ROB- not paskening likulah and a chumrah are two diferent things.
Rob- ya whatever, jovin vijovin. youre saying this from who’s perspective? o right, someone who’s never even seen any of this firsthand. you and your ilk are dangerous to the perpetuation of yiddishkeit, putting zionism and tank units before torah and halachah.
No, i dont think so. i think the army systematically, and quite efficiently, i may add, attempts to quash any real keeping of the jewish faith under the jackboot of the idf sellout rabbis. they have a photography unit, for crying out loud. its not one voice, its the voice of those who are ill-treated and still want to fight for religion, not jewish-esque culture. they dont care about judasim. newsflash. they care about zionism. two separate things.
yichusdik- when i was a youngin, we all knew the whole thing by heart. memories…
ROB- are you high? the idf lets you see pictures to enforce the way they want you to perceive them. first hand testimony is what they dont want you to hear. dumb dumb.
my name is joe…
ROB- i hear, so pictures are more convincing then first hand testimony of what the army allows/forces people to do. thats ridiculous. zionist propaganda machine.
you gotta go to waffle bar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! o so much yummy goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Charlie- I think GUA’s post clearly indicates that the soldiers are forced to give up on religious practices based solely on the whims of a commanding officer.
rebd, you said,”Chukat hagoyim refers to specific idolatrous religious practices.”
that is false. check up the S”A. dont make things up.
ROB- it appears that the fact that seven million jews, ken jirbu, living in EY is areason the army must be interested in allowing chayalim to keep mitzvos while on duty. you heard info from someone who’s BIL is in nachal chareidi, yet tou refuse to believe him. a guy in my shul grew up frum/yeshivish, and then went hardcore off the D. He still makes fun of bochurim and mocks RYs. he laughs about frum shtussim and denigrates black hatters. he was in nachal chareidi while he was totally anti religious, and he openly told the members of our shul that the way the army presents N’CH as an option for frum people is a joke. wake up. take your head out of the sand. maybe take off for a few weeks and check out what people look like after N”CH. or, better yet, move here, stop bluffing, and join the IDF. and stay frum.
maybe a gift a xmas or the like. wont be matnas chinam cuz theyll be nicer to you.
OP- the lying move works, even if people here object to it.
right, we’re in the age of keep your kid occupied on the internet, but chas vishalom they should have some old fashioned harmless fun. this thread is wacked.
people have evil inclinations. we are born with them. maybe you havent met yours yet. usually, it tries to make you do bad things. sometimes, people listen to the little voice and do bad things, sometimes they dont. id rather lock the door..