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Mod-29 et al,
When a thread is hijacked — like the Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis — can I suggest that the offending posts be deleted en masse (i.e. all the offending posts) rather than closing a good discussion?
This way the productive discussion can continue, while the stupid posts are removed and that part of the thread is terminated.
Just a thought. Thx
AOM:
MAKE THE PHONE CALL INSTEAD OF ACCUSING FRUM PEOPLE.
Aishes:
Georgie’s doesn’t owe us anything. They were nice enough to state the couple were correct and truthful. If you have any doubts, their phone number is listed in the Verizon White Pages, in the book and online. Instead of continuing to spread false rumors about Jews in favor on non-Jews, VERIFY THE FACTS with a 2 minute phone call.
It’s even a local call if you are in the 5 boroughs! Otherwise I can pay you back the 25 cents for the call.
Aishes:
They told me because I called them and asked.
Why others don’t pickup the phone and investigate rather than spreading malicious lies about a frum couple is beyond me.
cantoresq:
I heard it from a spouse of an employee. But since you asked, I called Georgie Wigs directly at their listed number and they’ve told me directly. In a nutshell Georgie said that Ms. Milian from the People’s Court has lied on the show. The ruined wig was a $3,000 Georgie wig. Feel free to call them yourself.
At this point, everyone who fingered the frum couple owes them a tremendous apology. I would like to see those posters retract the libel they’ve posted here against the couple.
I’ve just been told, on good word, that Georgie Wigs has commented on this incident as follows:
1. The employee who answered the phone call when The People’s Court called, did not advise or identify to the caller that any particular wig or label number was not purchased from Georgie Wigs. This is in contradiction to the statement made by the arbiter on the show, that was used as the basis for the dismissal.
2. After looking at the damaged wig in question, have determined this is the Georgie Wig that the $3,000 receipt represented. (This physical inspection occurred after the arbiter dismissed the case.)
This ought to put to final lie this incident as fodder for the usual anti-semites. No doubt they will ignore this, even if indisputably disproved, and will be sure to fabricate other “incidents” to attack Frum Yidden.
Homeowner:
Additionally there is ample reason to believe the “frum” (whom you are easily dismissive of) in this case are to be believed, considering the abundance of evidence [much of it presented earlier in this thread] of a lack of cautiousness on the part of the arbitrator.
Clearly they would be without standing to demand that only part of the divorce process, i.e. the issuing of the Bill of Divorce (i.e. “get”), be provided to them under Jewish law, but that the other aspects of the divorce (i.e. assets and custody) be governed under non-Jewish law (i.e. secular law.)
Josh31, I don’t think popa is comparing women to cow’s. He is talking about how much (in terms of cows) it cost to buy a wife.
Why don’t we see what Chacham Ovadia Yosef shlita recently said about Mr. Amsaelm. (Rav Yosef stripped him of his title):
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SIGNED:
Chacham Ovadia Yosef
Chacham Shimon Badni
Chacham Shalom Cohen
Chacham Moshe Meah
Isn’t there an issue of lo sechanaim the whole year?
The Semicha that is given today, has no legal meaning or effect. We no longer have real Semicha.
Whether someone is a rabbi or not today is not dependent on whether or not he received some paper purporting to convey upon him Semicha, whatever that purports to mean.
What topics does Avi Schron deal with/discuss at Agudah?
If someone insures their car using an address other than their residence, in order to obtain a lower rate, the insurance company may deny a future claim (especially if their was c”v a major accident) due to fraud, and the person could be personally liable to pay damages to all parties in the claim.
I had no extraordinarily funny shidduch dates. All of them went pretty routinely. Am I the odd man out, or all the oddballs the ones posting here? 😉
What metziyas are available on this Friday? How deep are the discounts? Is Black Friday the most deeply discounted day of the year? I heard there is a day in December that is also, perhaps more do, deeply discounted? Are the discounts on Cyber Monday as good as Black Friday?
apushata,
On another thread you mention you live in Brooklyn. If you work in commuting distance from there, what restaurant can you enter or leave without being seen by a Jew, with certainty? This is NY Metro.
Also, I’m wondering, even if you would not be seen, does Maris Eyin allow it? The distinction of Maris Eyin seems to make no difference even if it were to occur in Saudia Arabia with not a Jew within hundreds of miles, any more or less than on 13th Avenue in Boro Park. Cherrybim also made note of this point above.
What negative reprecussions, if any, are there to settling a debt — whether it is done yourself directly with a lender or through a third party negotiator?
Regarding the issue of mesirah:
Does it make a difference in determining whether it is mesirah, if all factors being the same, the only difference is in once case the homeowner calls a private tower to tow, or in another case the homeowner calls a government tower to tow?
Is it mesirah to call the local precinct to have the vehicle ticketed (for blocking your driveway)?
Is it mesirah to report that a curb-cut (in front of the homeowners driveway) is illegal?
If a homeowner is responsible for fixing cracks (wear and tear) on the public sidewalk in front of his house, is it mesirah to report it to the city, if the city’s only action would be to enforce the homeowners obligations, with no other penalty (assuming the homeowner complied upon demand)?
Not to wade into this contentious debate, but Rambam Hilchos Isurei Biah 21:6 and Shulchan Aruch E.H. 21:7 [and O.C. 73:4] (as cited by Igros Moshe Y.D. 2:137) says for a brother to touch a sister over age 11, or for a sister to touch a brother over age 12 is a “most deplorable, a prohibited (type of) action, and an act of foolishness”.
As far as a daughter is concerned, Igros Moshe E.H. 1:60 and E.H. 4:63 maintains that it is proper to be stringent and not kiss a married daughter or granddaughter. (That is kissing, not just touching.) Other poskim, however, do not mention this stringency and this seems to be the prevailing custom.
All of the above, is even in private. If done in public, there are additional issues.
And not all Gedolim agreed with the BY movement; the Hungarians objected to the teaching of Rashi to girls (and certinaly Rambans and Maharals) on the claim that that constitutes Torah shebal peh. Others said that since Rashi merely explains the pshuto shel mikrah – the simple meaning of the text, it would be considered Torah shebiksav in this sense.
The Bais Yaakovs hold that Rashi etc. is merely an explanation of Torah shebiksav and is permitted. They hold that since Rashi merely explains the pshuto shel mikrah – the simple meaning of the text, it would be considered Torah shebiksav in this sense.
You need to move to New York. That should mostly eliminate this problem.
Are you accusing his bochorim of widely disregarding the R”Y?
I submit you misunderstood his comment. What were his exact words?
We have to stop forcing our wives and mothers to be working stiffs, going against their nature, and then we can return to sanity and Yiddishe women will not feel forced to educate themselves with what they don’t need.
Moq – In Philly bochorim routinely get married before 23, so I’m not sure where you got that misinformation from. In fact, 23 is already on the mid-higher age of marriage.
SJSinNYC- The yeshivish girls dream _is_ to get married and have children!
crdle, I don’t think any cable co’s allow you to block individual stations. In any event, I don’t know of any channels that only have kosher stuff on 24/7. So TV cannot be blocked.
Today I was at a modern shul and stood up for it in order not to offend anybody.
I once had the same problem. I didn’t feel comfortable being the only one remaining seated, so I stood up, turned around and fiddled with my phone.
ROTFL
B”h the gedolim went all out to try to save a yiddishe life by Grossman. I know it isn’t politically correct to say, but since it was a yehudi in that case we need to support every possibility of saving his life (as the gedolim through Agudah, Satmar, Lubavitch, OU, Young Israel, etc. did), but if the very same circumstances it was an akum, there would be no reason to intervene to save. Like I said, it isn’t PC but it is Emes. Now y’all can start flaming me.
Homeowner: There is nothing unconstitutional about modesty laws.
apushatayid: Halevay all employers too such a courageous stand.
