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And the Makor for those who mock anything supernatural, is that when Alexander the Great conquered the world, he spread Greek culture.
You got the Adam/Ha’adam thing switched, and that’s precisely why the Maharal says that it does not apply to them.
Aries,
The sign reads, “Turn Right”, but it doesn’t say not to go left!!
I just want to say that my arguments are only to point out that it is much more than a misdemeanor. I do agree with aries’ critique of how easily boys are sometimes expelled. I once heard B’sheim the Chazon Ish that kicking out a boy is Dinei Nefashos and needs a Bes Din of 23. There was one instance where he allowed for them to kick out a boy, but only on the condition that the Rosh Yeshiva learn with him every day.
Why couldn’t Avraham Avinu keep Yishmael? I mean, he wasn’t Yitzchok. He wasn’t made out of the same stuff. So he acted up! He made a mistake. Did he really have to kick him out in the prime of his life? According to two out of three Pshatim he didn’t hurt anyone.
As I said earlier, you have to put yourself into another society’s mindset and judge from there. That is the basic meaning of Ad Shetagia Limikomo. The inability to do so, is what drove the western powers to try to influence other people’s values, and urn their disdain, and what caused this recent uproar about the picture.
In one community it is considered acceptable, innocent, or even ‘Mentchlich’. In another community, as in this mythical Yeshiva, in is not only unacceptable, but unheard of and completely out of the box.
The problem is that a good boy of such a Yeshiva would not casually fall in to this. Second of all, he would not be surprized by the Hanhala’s reaction. Third of all, it would not be considered alleged after the facts are undebated. All this and more (timing, “yenta” …) tells us that the OP probably made it up as he went along.
Something that is so far removed from a normal Bachur’s mind is not considered ‘a mistake’. We are obviously coming from two different angles and you just don’t see it as so foreign. I see that from your description of what should be taken lightly.
Yes, it will depend on the norms. In my upbringing, something like this had a 7 mile barrier. It doesn’t get crossed by ‘mistake’. If you are talking about another society, the situation changes. This whole thread, as I said earlier, is theoretical, so we can create the setting of the story, ourself. I gave it a Chassidishe Yeshiva with a good Bachur. You seem not to relate to that. So, change the setting and I’ll agree whole heartedly!
On one point I can agree, though. After his initial scare there is no reason that they shouldn’t negotiate with him.
Aries’ description is correct, and that’s exactly the conversation a Yeshiva Bochur would/should not be having.
He was expelled because it was alleged that he had communication with the other gendre.
The Yeshiva questioned the boy who did not deny the fact that he had an innocent conversation IN PUBLIC, IN FRONT OF THE GIRL’ S HOUSE, 4 HOUSES FROM WHERE HE LIVES.
Which part is “alleged”?
Working, do you know what innocent conversation means? It does not mean, “Is your mother home? No? Ok. Give this to her. It’s from my sister who borrowed it”.
Trak, you are very right. But if this thread was started by a troll in light of the ‘Zeitung’, it is only a theoretical discussion about a highly unlikely situation. An A student of a Yeshiva doesn’t do really do this kind of stuff. It sounds like an outsider’s perspective of how we ‘restrain’ and ‘confine’ our youth.
Speak it over with their principal.
Working, that is not the story given here.
If you are talking about a Chassidishe or Charedishe Yeshiva, and this Bochur had a full conversation with a girl, then he stepped way out of bounds. The Yeshiva can’t treat something so foreign as just another trouble.
There are many levels of Olam Haba. They won’t be in our Mechitza.
Sacrilege,
Writing Hebrew can be hard, for you’ll have to know the rules of Dikduk. With English, it is easier to construct a correctly written sentence without having taken a course than with Hebrew. However, smile66 is talking about reading.
Having said that, as far as I understand, the reason English is this way is because all Latin languages use the same letters, more or less. Therefore, when a foreign word made it in, we incorparated its spelling, too. That is why we have words spelled with French rules or German. That being the case, a language such as russian is, I think, also a what-you-see-is-what-you-get language.
Perhaps in his Pirush Mishnayos on Avoda Zara he says that. I sort of remember it being there.
Tosafos points out that this Mitzva is unique in that we are allowed to commission a non-Jew to do it for us. That being the case, since it’s not like creating an Avoda Zara, the problem might be with the act of drawing it. If that is the case, then a photograph wouldn’t be a problem. The fact is that nobody checks to make sure the sun or moon is not in the background before taking a picture.
If it’s Avoda Zara then you may not sell them either! (Although, it definitely is not Avoda Zara, because nothing can be, inherently, an Avoda Zara. It might be Assur.)
Now that I checked up the Gamara and the Rambam, it does seem to be Assur. The Rambam makes it sound that a picture of the sun is worse than a person, for a person is Muttar to draw but not to make a statue while the sun and moon are not to be drawn on a panel, either.
However, there is nothing wrong with keeping it. You may even have a non-Jew make you one, as long as it’s not a 3 dimensional picture. I do remember seeing the definition that ItcheSrulik referred to, but it’s not in the Yad. The Gemara had a problem with the fact that Rabban Gamliel had a picture of the moon, and the only answer the Gamara liked was that it was made by a non-Jew.
I don’t believe in the last one.
I think there are two fields with the same name. One is a way to open up an otherwise shut-in person, such as an autistic person R”L. Since music is something almost anyone relates to, it can be a medium for communication of sorts. There is another concept of listening to music of a certain nature to strengthen, or awaken that aspect within yourself. Office hours are…
I know someone who was in his mid thirties when he became a Chosson. Until that point he had given up a few times. When he became a Chosson, he told me that had he only known that at this time he would be engaged it would have been so much easier. Try to think ahead. One day, with Hashem’s help, you will be married and have a family. Try to pretend that you even know when that will be.
There you go, and without a moderator.
I believe the Rambam says what ItcheSrulik mentions.
As ZeesKite mentioned, one is not supposed to publicize Aveiros they’ve done. Raphael’s idea of letting others criticize you sounds good. Let’s start with myself: What impression do I give off here that you find crit-worthy? (other than spelling or grammar)
If you are in contact with professionals, you can ask for cues to be able to tell what the other person feels regardless of your own good time. You can also ask for guidance about behavior. Sometimes a certain behavior can be enjoyable to you while being offensive to him.
Once here, what do we do, argue?
You know how charms work!?
think about all the times YOU yourself don’t think (me included)
How can you be indluded in another person??
Put on a long nose and a tall hat and paint your face green. Then, run out and tell them if you catch them again… (I don’t even want to think of what comes next)
If you don’t need the fresh start, just would like a different name, the mods can give your account a different screen name. If you don’t want your earlier posts to change sign up with a new email address.
You definitely have to be desperate to use that. On my phone I can’t even read Hebrew, so in case I must I can use אבג…
By the way, in order to show that stuff, I typed : &
<em></em>#1488;Sorry, it’s 1488
If you don’t have Hebrew, here’s another idea. For Aleph, simply type ה and for Beis, type ו and so on.
Age of an Alte Bochur.
1-10 is not that high of a blood pressure.
You are very right. Besides, you can not call it a troll question if the participants are aware of the intent and are having a good time. We were not being setup.
He’s not talking to the camera, either.
I highly doubt that this video was taken from the inside, if you know what I mean. The camera turns, so it was nor surveillance. It is very unlikely that of all videos to have taken, they chose one of him watching himself on TV. What is likely, is, knowing that the CIA had a nearby house, they took this video using some advanced technology, like zeroing in on small reflections from object near a window they had access to. Perhaps they even had a tiny camera mounted on a remote control bug, which I do know has been entertained.
Ok. Actually, binahyeseira’s post was the most straight to the core, and dealt with the actual reason more than proof thereof. But, it came with a big disclaimer, saying that it won’t suffice as proof to one who doesn’t accept its premise.
Pac-man, that would depend on if she’s Jewish…
You should have put that period outside of the closing parenthesis. How did moderators let that pass?
Popa, What was your main idea in that thread, to simply have fun or to see how well people can actually articulate a good explanation. I ‘m not sure what you had in mind, but it was interesting to see how everyone wanted the obvious result, but I think mbachur and charliehall had the only real and solid argument. Now that it’s closed, what would you answer to such a question?
Nobody lights for them. For whatever reason, you add one by every birth. You don’t even light for yourself.
I think you are touching on some very good points. It should be taken taken seriously, and not too long. If they would have more Bakovodike teachers that you can respect it would make a difference. Part of the reason Bochurim don’t take it seriously is because they see that it is not taken seriously by the Yiddish department.
Another possible reason can be that the Gemara says that Nidda, Challa and Ner comes up at the time of childbirth. Although, at that point it is too late, perhaps it is a Z’chus that from then on she will light another. Or, it is a form of Hoda’a for making it through safely.
However, I did hear of the missing a Lecht reason as the main one.
or, [closed. no, really]
Daas Yochid, thank you very much for that!
By the way, I think it’s Mishne Halachos. They call it what you did, when trying to make fun. But that shouldn’t stop you from transliterating.
Also, what we learn from them is to always bring along an extra hellicopter.
Daas Yochid,
Im Al Hamelech Tov Ve’im… I usually can’t read Hebrew here, since I’m using a phone. If it isn’t so much more of a Tircha, can I ask that you try to use transliterations wherever possible?
Anyhow, no matter what the reason for lighting an extra for each child, it is definitely not a Ner Neshama. You are not being Motza them, just like the first two are not for the husband and wife.
Is there any documentation online on this new forum code? Maybe you can start a thread to practice your forum code.
Let me try: [sticky]
Hey veteran,
That’s really cute. I like that. I wonder who played Osama. Do you think it was a computer image or it was somebody simply playing that part?
Actually, the actor must have been getting targeted by too many people telling him that he looks like Osama bin Ladin, having seen him on his videos, so they switched to audio instead.
As an Israeli official said, it is embarrassing for the Pakistanis that they did not know. It doesn’t have to be anything other than that. At meetings, they don’t discuss their neighborhood, they evaluate collected data. Perhaps some individuals wondered to themselves what that weird complex is about, and put it out of his mind. We also know that their government, at all levels, is infiltrated by millitants. These people could have derailed any attempt to research that building.
Thanks. I think I’ve noticed a difference in javascript between running a calculation over and over (that computers just love doing) and creating a ready made object. It seems that object instances are a heavier load than running calculations.