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Your last line is the main point. We see his real intention in the Moreh.
It could still be, though, that according to the Raavad, invoking unknowns is equivalent to leaving it open ended.
The Ravvad didn’t merely say that some people won’t like his Pshat. He ends with Vechal Zah Einenu Shova Li, which means that he felt compelled to give some answer but he didn’t like his own answer and would rather it not be brought up.
What’s all that noise? It’s worse than the thing itself.
Ugh! Get out of my pot!
You are Mekayem “speeding” on Ocean Parkway by merely going 40MPH which is common and a comfortable speed with full control.
But really, how does awareness change anything? If I am aware it must be because you are forced. But if your question is about being predetermined, than even without anyone in particular knowing the fact is that it was always true that you were going to do this choice. You can’t come now and change that fact in retrospect, regardless of anyone being aware of that fact.
Syag is saying the Raavad. Oomis is more like Rabbeinu Saadya.
You are quoting Sam or me? I didn’t say anything about hidden or dormant. Actually, I would have answered the Tosafos Yeshanim’s differently.
To recap my point, Al taamin does not justify saying a Tzadik did a Chet, but it would justify going sour. It can apply to this Talmid, but I didn’t realize you meeant it about him.
The fact that, according to this story, the Choseh was tricked or led to believe is a hard pill but in light of Yehoshua bin Nun and Achiya Hashiloni being tricked we see that it is not that simple. Rebbeinu Saadya Gaon says that Hashem purposely wanted Neviim to be fooled so that we see that it is Nevua from Hashem and not a special sense.
Nor does this mean that the Talmid became a Rasha. He probably meant what he said. The Kotzker had a nuanced Derech that is hard for binary thinking people to handle.
Hidden Rishus? What are you talking about?
I didn’t realize you were refering to the talmid.
A narcissist is someone who clicks on a thread only to read what he wrote himself.
First of all, Al Taamin is not necessarily about Tzadikim. Abaye holds that a Tzadik will not go off. The Gemara we had recently says that if most of his life he was a Tzadik, Hashem will make sure it stays that way. Yishmor Raglei Chasidav. The Tosafos Yeshanim reconciles this with Yochanan Cohen Gadol that although Hashem puts things in place to almost force him not to sin, he can overcome them.
The Maharal explains that this is what happened with David Hamelech. As Chazal explain, it turned out not to be a Chet. But since, according to his actions it would have been, it was held against him. Ayin Sham.
If someone overcomes Hashem’s messages and roadblocks it is because he is heading in a certain direction. Now, not only is this example very uncommon, that we always have to point back to Yochanan Cohen Gadol, it is also never used to say that Tzadikim are Chote ChV from time to time. Remember the Gemara in Brachos 19 about someone who spoke about a Tzadik.
Oh. Hilarious! I didn’t know it’s that famous.
Inspired as in, you feel like saying Nakdishach or you like it very much?
Did you not learn the Daf recently?
If someone went off the Derech later in life is one thing. The way it is being applied here is wrong.
And if He wouldn’t know, CV, that would answer all your questions? What if theoretically there is someone that knew. Since that is after all the outcome, it always was going to be.
Al Taamin does not come in here at all. Why did you bring it in?
So narcissism = self centered = anti social = mean = inconsiderate = OCD?
Yeah, but not very specific.
By killing it.
I wouldn’t care for their “spiritually upliftng” but that’s not what Chopin’s beauty is. These classical composers were not putting the repulsive element in their music. They specifically set out to write intellectual music. Just as wild music makes you wild, deep music, if listened to with more attention than backround music, has a normalizing effect.
Sam, I never ever heard of two people writing the same composition (besides if they both cheated and gave in the same plagarized piece in college). Sure you can find five notes that match, but not a composition. Not even a section.
I wouldn’t care for their “spiritually upliftng” but that’s not what Chopin’s beauty is. These classical composers were not putting the repulsive element in their music. They specifically set out to write intellectual music. Just as wild music makes you wild, deep music, if listened to with more attention than backround music, has a normalizing effect.
Sam, I never ever heard of two people writing the same composition (besides if they both cheated and gave in the same plagarized piece in college). Sure you can find five notes that match, but not a composition. Not even a section.
Who, the Noda Beyehuda?
Exactly. UlaSarah Bein.
(If you continue calling it Segol, like the Gemara does, you’ll be in good company.)
Do you know the difference between Yiddish clothing and Goyish clothing? It has nothing to do with who made, it has to do with who wears it.
Goyish music is a physical fact. Watch someone listen to it for a few minutes and see the inspired behavior. It is physical. The difference can be measured. And if you hold yourself back from acting out the instinct it instills it is still there.
Like wine, music can be Mesameach in a holy way. And like wine, take it with without Cheshbon and there is nothing further from holy.
WIY, to paraphrase a narcissist: If you like your speeches you can keep them.
Narcissism is not the concept of of Otherizing. It is a classless obcession with oneself.
If you are going classify all related Midos together in one stitch you are left with exactly one Mida.
We are bred woth narcissism. It even made its way into the current Hashkafa. It shaped the tone of many inspiration speeches of our day.
Heh. Not quite. I mean, it’s easy to be poorer than Hillel. Anyone who is drowning in debt is poorer than Hillel. I noticed that Rashi doesn’t learn that these are real Taanos. He calls it a Pis’chon Peh to have Taanos. In other words, although there was a person who went above and beyond, that doesn’t mean that I am now a Rasha for not completely following. However, it does show that if you really want you can deal with your situation. That’s called a Pis’chon Peh.
There goes another badly misunderstood Rambam. That is the problem with digging up abandoned Hashkafos. You don’t really understand them because there’s no Mesora on them.
The other way is easier.
I am Makpid to listen to classical music. Once in a while I falter and listen a drop to “Jewish” music, or even worse, “Musica Chasidit”. Liszt’s (how do you pronounce that music will do much more for you than Kida Lisa ah ah Honey.
LAB, it’s there, just you can’t see it.
I don’t think the idea is that the Yerushalmi says if someone comesto you in a dream saying you should convert, dig him up and find a warp and weft. The Gra probably had a Diyuk from some Yerusalmi, that few are likely to catch, which showed that this would happen.
Another theory is that one question answers the other. The Yerushalmi in question was Meduyak that for the benefit of what would please the father you may dig him up. The Gra was surprised that the Rebbe Reb Zushe cameto the same conclusion to allow them to open the grave.
When he said that he got it from the same place that refers to the idea that it is a simple Svara. It can also be a tit for tat answer for a remark like that. It can also be that he meant what he said.
They tell you the source. It comes off certain Kuntraysim.
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Probably when the danger subsides.
I’m aware. I’m also aware of how to get rid of a longing to a particular song. I’ve done it. Sing it out once.
Dovid Hamelech is considered the first of the Baalei Ruach Hakodesh, and yet Rav holds that he accepted Lashon Hara.
The Sefer Chasidim says that sometimes a darkness descends from heaven to cloud the eyes of Tzadikim, to create a fight.
Most Nissim were natural occurrences but the timing is the Os. That’s what number 4 was about.
Actually, that comment of mine is a Macha’a, in case you didn’t realize. Perhaps Popa is merely playing along. I was going to put that comment in the resisting-a-song thread, but my page went blank upon submission. I got the hint and left it, but I figured it can go here. So, there you got another HP story.
Oomis, if logic doesn’t take the place of intuition, intuition doesn’t take the place of logic, either. You can’t have it both ways.
As I pointed out, even Nevua and Ruach Hakodesh can’t Pasken.
Sarah Imeinu said that from Nevua, as Chazal tell us. Rivka Imeinu also did that from Ruach Hakodesh, as Chazal tell us. Intuition is good to say something seems amiss although you can’t put your finger on it. It does not apply to making a decision about who is fit for starting Klal Yisroel.
One Shtickel advice I can offer is, if the words are clean, sing it to yourself for 15 minutes straight.
As a Zikui for the Rabim, the killer should carry around the numbers of Rabbonim (but not their addresses!) so that people who encounter them can know what to do.
How do you know where he went? And if he was buried in reeds does he go up then, too? Did you really unlock all the secrets of the system beyond? Do you know if this was his Neshama or Ruach or perhaps his Guf or maybe his Malbush? There’s a reason people desire a Jewish burial.
OK. So what elements are always in personal Hashgacha Pratis stories.
1) A personal commitment to something that’s not technically an Aveira.
2) A down moment.
3) Natural and common but unexpected.
4) Perfect timing.
What did I leave out?
In other Chiyuvei Misah we don’t intervene (although we are Matzil Be’Evarim IIRC). The fact that we kill a Rodef of murder or Arayos is either because he is presently a Rodef or it is about prevention. This is a famous sugya. Our Shayla might depend on this, too. He will definitely kill but not necessarily is he an active Rodef. So, if Rodef is about him deserving Misah then there is the requirement of Din Rodef. But if it is about prevention a definite crime it should apply here, too.
This is not iron-clad, of course. There is room for each view to hold either way.
I don’t think the question here was about the guy being about to kill you. It was specifically about him being harmless at the moment. When someone is about to kill you there is adrenalin, and the will to survive overpowers your natural inhibitions. The topic here was about minus this element would you bring yourself to kill based on knowledge. It is an interesting topic, but the Halacha might change accordingly.
That’s interesting about the Mosar, although there is still a difference. The Mosar is constantly conniving and collecting information, so he is active. The serial killer, on the other hand, is someone who will difinitely kill but not everyone every day. He can wake up one day and decide that it is a good day for killing or he might do it on the third Monday of every even month. Either way, he is not, in any way, active right now. I could hear, though, that you can look at him like a wild tractor. Now that he is a Muad or Muchzak he is always heading towards his next act.
Intuition to take the place of Torah? Not even Ruach Hakodesh can do that. Hashem directly told Yehoshua that He can’t tell him the Halachos that were forgotten during the Aveilus of Moshe Rabbeinu.
This is definitely an interesting question. We know he will kill but we don’t know when (and we don’t know whom), but he is not doing anything now. In Hashkafic terms we can learn from Ben Sorer Umore that he gets killed, but then again, that’s for Beis Din. On the contrary, maybe that is proof that he is not considered an active Rodef right now. Veyesh Lechaleq.
As to the OQ, I recall reading in Dare To Survive how even when given the chance to kill a Nazi they bribed him rather than kill him. In other words, they payed him for his life. In the Youngest Partisan as well, after capturing a German, Reb Cohen couldn’t bring himself to personally kill him and he left the honor to the others.
Where is that Yerushalmi? I found in Brachos, where it says Sifvasav Dovevos Kakomer..:)
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Did you figure out which one I added?
I don’t know why someone’s subtitle should change his point. But anyhow, this is probably about the speech given by Rabbi Warren Goldstein of South Africa. For what it’s worth, the Noda Beyehuda did something similar in a Drasha about his king.
Reb S Y Zevin brings this story.