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The Gemara and Rashi don’t explain it that way. (I think the Zohar Hakadosh does, though.)
I am asking you to please let us in on any of the sources or at least which Gilyon. A claim of sources is as good as a claim without sources.
No. Chorosho means that something is good. Put in ‘Good day’ and you’ll get, ?????? ????.
It doesn’t have to be a fundamental of the religion to make the denial of it an apikores (or an edited — as some mods took to calling it).
And I’m sure you must be aware of the myriad of Meforshim who explain that Reb Hillel was obviously not going against the Pesukim and he only meant that the Kibutz Galuos and Binyan Habayis will go straight to Hashem Melech and bypassing the stage of a Melech Basar Vadam. Right?
Let’s also not forget the Gemara’s reaction to his statement. The Gemara is essentially saying that he needs a Kappara. If you say it after this, then you can be at best an ???? ?????.
That famous quote from the Baal Hatanya is referring to the second category, of asking personal advice. Of this we mostly agree anyhow, that while it is worthwhile to get a Talmid Chacham’s perspective you are not Mechuyav to take his advice. (Although, to ask and then disregard might be Bizayon Talmid Chacham, depending on the circumstance.) Interestingly, the Baal Hatanya didn’t stop giving such advice. He obviously just wanted to slow it down. He wouldn’t have given advice had he not felt capable of doing so.
He didn’t address the main kind — where it is usually invoked — which is public issues. For this it doesn’t take Nevua or derivatives thereof to make decisions. And yes, we must follow our leaders as we always did.
Patur, according to your strict definition of Lo Sassur we shouldn’t be making a Bracha on Chanuka or Megilla.
We don’t say Reb when we refer to the Chida. I did notice some instances, though, where he is referred to as ?????”?.
Now, I put a smiley there because we all know that it is not the same thing. It might take a 500 word essay to explain the difference, and the difference can still sound weak. But we know it is not the same thing. This is exactly what it sounds like to me when people here throw in something that can technically sound related. It happened on this thread as well.
Of course not. That is not his full initials.
To collect his brachos is always worthwhile, and our Chazal stated clearly, “??? ??? ??? ????? ???? ?????”. It does not instruct us to seek their prescriptions
This is what they call a straw man. There is nobody, and I mean nobody who goes to a Godol for actual medical advice rather than to a doctor.
One may not assume that the Gadol is responding from a wellspring of ??? ?????, even if that is something we have reason to believe is possible.
An Adam Gadol, of the type that I would want to speak to, would be mature enough to know what he knows and what he is capable of answering. I wouldn’t advise someone on something of which I am not sure. It doesn’t make a difference how much Ruach Hakodesh, if it is a mixture, or if he happens to be well versed in the topic. If he tells me then he knows that he can advise me.
Yet, one does not have the freedom to rely on such ??? ?????, unless all other forms of ??????? have been exhausted.
This does not mix with Hishtadlus. It has nothing to do with that. If you got an answer then you got an answer. Hishtadlus would mean that you shouldn’t wait around for an answer. What does it mean not to rely on Ruach Hakodesh? If you know that it is from Shamayim, who exactly are you outsmarting?
We call the Chida by his initials. 🙂
You seem to be mixing two things. Paskening from only the Shulchan Aruch is Halomed Mitoch Hamishna, as the Maharal explains. You must know the reason in order to be Medameh Milsa Lamilsa. You are adding to this that it wasn’t meant as a Psak. This is not the case. Perhaps we didn’t have to Pasken like the Mechaber at the time, but many have said that Klal Yisroel accepted it as their Psak.
This actually follows the reasoning of the Beis Yosef as to why he usually Paskens from the Rif, Rambam and the Rosh. There might have been many that were equal or perhaps greater, but these took the pains to write Halacha.
We find that it works this way in Shas as well. We Pasken like Shmuel in Dinim. If the reason would be that he knows better then why would Rav argue? The idea is that we follow the one who was practicing. This is why some people Pasken like the Aruch Hashulchan over the Mishna Berura, since the former was a practicing Rav.
Charlie, what about the Dor of Chizkiyahu Hamelech? The Essen Kest ‘system’ was around for many years. In fact, as the Gemara says, Ha Lan Veha Lehu. They learned full time after they were married. Others have said, Ikka Kani Be’agma. The Gemara also says that Torah is ontained by those who become Achzarim to their families. The Gemara is full of advice for Tzurba Derabanan who had to live cheaply. But mainly, as Gavra said, we took advantage of everything to learn more.
There was no change in Hashkafa from a Rav’s Rebbe.
By the way, Rabbi Solovetchik also spoke about the importance of following the Gedolim, I am told.
As long as the difference of when to apply what and to whom is not understood, we can keep on bringing junk proof this way and that.
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The Chachamim were Gozer things even without a connection to any Issur. For example, the Sandel Hamesumar. As leaders and policy setters we must listen to them. It is a form of Psak when they declare something important for the well-being of Yiddishkeit.
This is entirely separate from asking personal advice, in which case it is advisable to follow advice of a Torah-trained mind but you don’t have to.
You must listen to your Rebbe when he commands you to do something.
To listen to someone who has Ruach Hakodesh is more than just advisable and disobeying him might bump with some Issurim. Ruach Hakodesh might be on the level of Siyata Dishmaya, where it is a decision with a guided bias. I know of numerous instances of such advice from Gedolim that sounds prophetic.
For rebuking him unnecessarily.
Every day!?
They used to tell me to say: Dobra Subota. Try it and see if it works.
Why are these two the only options on the table? I guess Satmar succeeded in their media campaign painting their view as the official Chareidi viewpoint.
And what about a Levi that feels ripped off since he didn’t do the Egel and still isn’t a Kohen?
(Truth is, this is what I didn’t understand from the famous story of the Chafetz Chayim.)
The quote from his Hakdama actually says that it is for
Halacha Lemaase. The issue is about using the dry Halacha, without knowing any background, to decide on a case that comes up. The issue is not about following the Halacha as written.
The Beis Yosef in Hlichos Tzitzis quotes an Achron who made a mistake before he looked up the source quoted by the Tur, and changed everything when he saw the Mekor. The Beis Yosef says that he brings the whole piece to show how important it is to follow the source to its origin.
ZD, you really like that topic, don’t you.
Jabotinsky was not a leader. He was an activist of the type that it is not surprising that he had extreme expectations. People today also predict all sorts of things. When one of them turns out correct, does that make him more on target? No.
The Mishna says, ????? ???? ??? ??????. Does giving an Eitza mean you have absolute knowledge? It means you know how to make a decision. I hope this is not too deep for you.
I usually decide things with my head rather than my heart. If it turns out that my heart was right and not my brain, should I start following my heart and ignore logic? If I read wrong should I stop reading?
These are actually two separate things. It is worth speaking things over with a wise person and since ????? ???? ??? ??????, a Talmid Chochom that learns Torah Lishma is the best candidate for that. Another issue is community questions. The Chachamim are the Einei Ha’eida and must be listened to in these matters. Those who don’t listen are Poresh Min Hatzibur. There is also a Siyata Dishmaya to help make decisions in these matters, as it says, ???? ????? ???????.
Additionally, there is a Seyata Dishmaya in advice from a Talmid Chochom who learns Torah Lishma and is Dover Emes Bilvavo. There is also a concept of Ruach Hakodesh, which is why people turn to Gedolim for personal issues.
Sam, absolutely. I couldn’t stand that story from the first moment I heard it. There are countless stories of Gedolim where a dream affected their decision.
The Gemara only uses “Divrei Chalomos Lo Maalin Velo Moridin” in a Halachic context — that even if the Baal Hachalomos (obviously they believed there is one) tells you that certain money belongs to a certain person, and even if he gives you a Siman that proves correct, it does not go to that person.
Other than that there are many instances of Achzu Lei Bechalma.
One of the Chevra, you are not being very specific. Actually, he is not going against any Mesora. He is merely giong against the famous picture. Yes, the Luchos were at Har Sinai but not necessarily during Matan Torah.
Who got to see the front and who got to see the back? Was that also a Ness that all the Jews got to read it or did nobody see it anyhow since it was covered with smoke? Doesn’t the Pasuk describe the giving over of the Luchos on the last day that Moshe Rabbeinu was up there?
If you have something to show or somewhere to look please, by all means, post it here.
The Nissim shown in the Israeli wars are no less than the many Nissim we relate of what happened throughout the generations. The Nissim we see daily might even be greater since it is continuous. Of this it is said Ke’ilu Yesh Lo Eloka. It is visible that we have Someone protecting us.
Why should we be Kafoiye Tov, especially Beshita? In fact, the arguments to explain away the events don’t sound much different from any athiest explaining all the Nissim we all agree to. Descriptions of Yetzios Mitzraim in many encyclopedias sound just like the founding of Israel. It is scary to me, hearing this type of thinking in our midst. This is the real edited training.
On the other hand it is ignorant to think this is the first Ness we’ve had since Chanuka. What about where Rebbe Shimon got rid of evil Roman decrees through a miracle? What about when Rabbeinu Hakadosh miraculously showed up to the kaiser and averted a catasrophe? Should we declare a holiday the day the Amshinover Rebbe told the Japanese why the Germans hate us?
It would have been very appropriate to thank Hashem at the time, publicly. Perhaps designating a day to add some Tehillos would also be nice. But adding more significance to that than a Hillula is obviously just out of the nationalism of which, as we know, many were opposed.
Sam, I really don’t see why that would be a Kasha. The Rivash might have had an issue calling it the Zman, but it is still all about Matan Torah. As Rav Yosef said, Ee Lav Hai Yoma. If Rebbe Eliezer held so strongly about Lachem then he would have kept it on Isru Chag on those years, if it would truly be independent.
Some say that 30 days before is for Halachos while the Chag itself is for Aggada. Some say that 30 days before is when a Rav must answer all questions about the Chag and can’t say he is not in the Sugya.
Obviously, you are allowed from Rosh Chodesh since it says, Yachol Merosh Chodesh.
It would be great if you would allow a tag that would align Hebrew text to the right.
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Sam, Logician is quoting Chazal. Medrash Rabbah, Emor 35:
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??? ??? ?? ???,
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??? ???? ?????? ??? ??? ???? ?????.
?? ??? ?? ???, ????? ?????? ?????, ????? ?????? ?????.
?? ??? ????? ?????? ????, ??? ?????? ???????, ??? ????? ?????, ??? ??????? ????????.
?? ??? ?? ?????, ???? ???? (?????? ??): ???? ????? ???? ????? ?????. ???? (???? ?): ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ?????.
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??? ???? ???? ???, ????? (???? ??): ??? ?? ????? ???. ??? ???? ???? ???? ????? ???? ?? ?”? ??? ??? ????? ??? ?? ?????.
??? ???? ??? ??? ???? ?????, ??? ?? ???? ??, ??? ???? ?????? ?????, ?????: (????? ??): ??? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ???? ??.
At least by the Shira we know they were separate.
Risking your life and the lives of others to catch a minyan is at best a mitzvah ha-ba b’aveirah!
What about going 70 on the Pallisades, is that also ‘risking your life’?
Hey Moderator, you are breaking the rule about all-caps.
Why do you assume they stood close enough to need one?
So as you see, if you dig you find. If you’re out of a topic add to the url of the coffeeroom: “
/page/300“And the night (unlike the day WRT the Sun) cannot be defined by using the Moon.
I guess you mean, not easily.
Sam, the Gemara in Pesachim actually suggests that it is possible tobe exact. According to one view, Rebbi Meir holds that people don’t make any mistake at all and Rebbi Yehuda allows for a half hour. But even according to the most allowing view, it is merely saying that it is possible to make the mistake, but not that it is expected.
Oomis, absolutely.
Halacha – Must eat in Succah on Shmini Atzeres.
Minhag – Don’t eat in Succah throughout Shmini Atzeres.
Chumra – Sleep in Succah on Shmini Atzeres.
Shtus – Eating in Succah with the Shlock down on ShA.
Or more commonly,
Halacha – My Psak.
Minhag – My Minhag.
Chumra – Your Psak.
Shtus – Your Minhag.
Halacha: You are supposed to follow the Minhag.
Minhag: To follow some Chumros.
Chumra: Be Choshesh even for a Shtus.
Shtus is unlimited.
Charlie, saying Hallel in Shul by night is an ancient Minhag which is mentioned in Maseches Sofrim, I think (perhaps Yerushalmi), and the reason is to say the Bracha on the whole Hallel. We don’t eat Karpas in Shul for fear of forgetting it later.
Halacha: You may speak Lashon Hara.
Minhag: We do it anyhow.
Chumra: At least we don’t say the name.
Shtus: When you finish saying your piece you yell at the next guy, “Lashon Hara. Lashon Hara!”
Instead of burning wood, they are using something as a wick with oil underneath.
Sam, most of who? Not Rabbanim Gedolei Yisroel throughout the generations from his time. I don’t either think Rebbi Shimon wrote it, just like Rebbe Eliezer didn’t write Pirkei D’Rebbe Eliezer. Neither did Rav Ashi write the Gemara. Most of these Sefarim were written by Rabban Savurai or early Geonim.
The Ramban had the Sefer Habahir and a Kabbalah from his Rebbe. As I said, what you find from beforehand pales in comparison to the Zohar Hakkadosh. R’ Moshe De Leon was no greater Mekubal than the Ramban. The Ramban writes that we don’t have the Sod of Arayos, which is in the Zohar. It is very obvious from many areas that the Ramban was not privy to the Zohar. In fact, before it came out, Rebbe Shimon Bar Yochay was not the central figure of Kabbalah as he is today.
Although to you this is all one mush, to those that learn these Sefarim Be’iyun there is no Shaychos between what preceeded the Zohar and what followed. This is besides the fact that more was found after his time.
Why is it a Kasha? We actually do Pasken that it is Reshus, although it was accepted as a Chov and we may not drop it.
As for the Chiluk, perhaps the difference may lie in the reason for Paskenning like Rava or Rebbi Yochanan. Rava is considered Sinai and we assume he is coming from someplace. When we already have the Shittos layed out Rava and Abaye are both equal. The reason for being Machria like Rebbi Yochanan is not because of a specific strength. Ad Kan my speculation.
Sam, I don’t know why you had to bring that in and be on the opposite side of practically any Gadol from the time it came out. The Ramban actually only has very little of what is in the Zohar. He didn’t invent Kabbala, nor did the Ibn Ezra. But we see the Yesodos. The Zohar Hakadosh is assuming knowledge in what they discuss, it is far from a compilation of what was known. It is also not the final text, since the Zohar Chodosh and Tikkunim were found later.
R’ Moshe de Leon’s own writings don’t show more knowledge and depth than his contemporaries, of whom the Arizal said it doesn’t pay to study since they have just a few Yesodos. This is not emotional. It would be like saying that my uncle really wrote Reb Chaim’s Chiddushim and fooled the world. Although you don’t understand
So he is a Chasidic Rebbe who, as it turns out, disgrees with the Baal Shem Tov. He might be a Rav and comes from a Chassidic dynasty, and might have retained some of the style — perhaps with a new flavor — but one thing he isn’t is a Rebbe.
Now, to argue on the Arizal on an Inyan in Kabbala is foolish and arrogant. Does this person really know the intricate details of what a Neshama is, from where it originates, the many different types of Gilgulim and their purpose? This is like preferring speculation over a first hand report.
But for interest sake, from the later Rishonim who openly speak of Gilgul we only find it about a person. But the Gemara in Bava Kama does seem to allude to another kind, in the topic of changing after seven years.
I once heard a Chasidic Rebbe “pasken” against the position of the Arizal on the topic of gilgulim.
Who is this “Chasidic Rebbe”, Abraham Joshua Heshel?
Mekubalim knew about before the Zohar. The Ramban alludes to it in quite a few places and he didn’t have the Zohar.
There are many reasons why the Torah doesn’t talk about another world explicitly. However, Chazal understood Arichas Yamim to mean beyond this world. In Navi there are some references to life after death. Vehaya Nefesh Adoni …
The Rav Mibartenura records in his letter how they celebrated Lag Baomer in Meron. He was around 1500.
The Chasam Sofer having heard of people tossing clothing into the fire condemed it as Bal Tash’chis. Those Poskim who lived in Eretz Yisroel and who witnessed the Simcha had a very different look at it, and responded to that Teshuva.
The Arizal took part in the celebrations, as told by Reb Chaim Vittal. He even revealed to a Talmid that this Talmid will be punished for ruining the Simcha by saying Nachem.
The day was always considered special. What is new is the association with Rebbi Shimon and the degree to which it is celebrated. The Maharal in Nesiv Hatorah writes about the significance of the 18th of Iyar.
Sam, it was only celebrated in Eretz Yisroel. I didn’t actually give that reason, I just clarified it. The fire was never such an Ikkar. It was done to enhance the Simcha. But when a Minhag spreads all around we apply the concept of Bnei Neviim and try to find depth.
It seems though, that there was such a thing in earlier times. I think the Maharil’s Talmid describes how they spent Lag Ba’omer with a parade and jumping through fire loops.
I think he is just trying pinpoint what the idea really is. If someone were to seriously ask you your question of every Shabbos you know that you would be able to answer him.
Wolfish, it is Rebbi Shimon who brought out the splendor which was previously hidden.