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  • in reply to: New idea to fix Shidduch Crisis #2380295
    Talkingtachlisnow26
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    @yochi I don’t think you understood me correctly. A person physically disabled in a wheelchair would be elated to go out and marry someone who’s not physically disabled, and so too concerning a Ger. Certain groups of people are not sought after in the singles market comparatively to regular FFBs. And therefore it all comes back to having too high standards and the need to lower our standards. Everyone can get married pretty quickly depending how much they lower their standards, including older single girls. Age/age gap has no relevance to the shidduch crisis.

    in reply to: New idea to fix Shidduch Crisis #2380294
    Talkingtachlisnow26
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    I don’t think you understood me correctly. A person physically disabled in a wheelchair would be elated to go out and marry someone who’s not physically disabled, and so too concerning a Ger. Certain groups of people are not sought after in the singles market comparatively to regular FFBs. And therefore it all comes back to having too high standards and the need to lower our standards. Everyone can get married pretty quickly depending how much they lower their standards, including older single girls. Age/age gap has no relevance to the shidduch crisis.

    in reply to: New idea to fix Shidduch Crisis #2380156
    Talkingtachlisnow26
    Participant

    I hear what you’re saying, however perhaps you are not understanding fully my idea completely. Every person in Shidduchim can get married at any point they choose including the older single girls. How you may ask? Because it’s supply and demand. Whether you like it or not every single has a more or less fixed value in the shidduch market. Thereby some singles are sought after by the majority, and some singles are not sought after very much. Lots of variables play a role in the value of a single. For examples, family dynamics, Yechus, wealth, job, looks, personality, and plenty more. So the older single girls are either 1 of the 2 categories and the answer is the same for both categories. Lower your standards, marry someone below you. And there’s almost always someone below you in the market. For example Hashem made it difficult for physical special needs, Geirim, Baalei Yeshiva, widowers, and others to be desired by the mass of singles. If you are getting older marry someone who would feel grateful that you are interested in them, even though you are superior in the market. They would feel “I got a catch, a diamond, or like winning the lottery. Readjusting the standards for older singles and also while they are young will solve the issue. As well as an answer for those who are already older, and the Gedolim advice is not even applicable to them, leaving them out to dry.

    Please explain to me how I’m misunderstanding still?

    in reply to: New idea to fix Shidduch Crisis #2379390
    Talkingtachlisnow26
    Participant

    It’s true they know what’s best however they only know what people tell them and sometimes people representing the problem or suggesting solutions is not the best way forward. And of course the Rabbanim think on their own and come up with their own solutions, however their solutions won’t help with issues and problems that are misrepresented. And therefore it’s important for the Rabbanim to speak to lots of people for this issue including singles parents community leaders Shadchanim and everyone who’s involved to get a very clear picture how to give a proper solution, which I don’t think is happening. Putting that aside where do you disagree in the above statement?

    in reply to: Shidduch Crisis Idea #2376420
    Talkingtachlisnow26
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    The shidduch crisis in our community stems from a mismatch between expectations and reality. In a system where men are encouraged to learn Torah full-time, supported by women who work or receive family help, dating operates like a marketplace. Men who are committed to Torah, emotionally mature, and share values are highly sought after, as are women who are kind, family-oriented, and supportive. However, not everyone fits these ideals, creating imbalances. For example, a woman in her late 20s might struggle because men her age often prefer younger women, while a man learning Torah full-time but lacking financial backing might be overlooked.

    A key factor is how men and women’s perceived value changes over time. Men gain value as they age due to increased Torah knowledge and life experience, while women’s traditional value—linked to youth, beauty, and childbearing—tends to decline. This dynamic means older women may need to adjust expectations, while men often don’t face the same pressure. Younger women are seen as more attractive, but older women can still find matches by focusing on shared values and emotional compatibility.

    The current approach encourages men to start dating earlier and women to start later to balance the age gap. While this helps with demographics, it doesn’t address unrealistic expectations. For instance, women waiting for a man who is both a full-time learner and financially supported might miss out on a kind, compatible match. Similarly, men seeking a “perfect” wife might overlook someone caring and aligned with their goals. This approach also ignores the diversity within our community, where some rabbis support organizations like WZO while others don’t, highlighting the need for tailored solutions.

    Materialism further complicates the issue. Extravagant weddings, luxury lifestyles, and societal pressures have shifted priorities, making dating more about appearances than values. This culture leaves many struggling to meet unrealistic standards, pushing singles to chase superficial traits rather than meaningful connections.

    To address this, we need a community-wide effort. Rabbis and leaders should teach this mindset in schools and organize events to promote realistic expectations. By focusing on shared values, mutual respect, and emotional compatibility, we can create a healthier dating culture. Additionally, as singles age, they often become more selective, narrowing their options. Both men and women must recognize that being overly selective based on past experiences can hinder finding a meaningful relationship. Instead, they should prioritize core values and give potential matches a fair chance.

    Logical older single in Shidduchim.

    in reply to: Issue with Solving the Shidduch Crisis #2376401
    Talkingtachlisnow26
    Participant

    I’d like to share some thoughts on the shidduch crisis, particularly in our community where the ideal is for men to learn Torah full-time, supported by women who work or receive family help. Dating operates like a marketplace, where people evaluate what they offer and seek in a partner. Men who are committed to Torah, emotionally mature, and share values are highly sought after, as are women who are kind, family-oriented, and supportive. However, not everyone fits these ideals, leading to mismatches. For example, a woman in her late 20s might struggle because men her age often seek younger women, while a man learning Torah full-time but lacking financial backing might be overlooked.

    A key issue is how men and women’s value changes over time. Men gain value as they age due to increased Torah knowledge and life experience, while women’s traditional value—linked to youth, beauty, and childbearing—declines. This means older women may need to adjust expectations, while men often don’t face the same pressure. Younger women are seen as more attractive, but older women can still find matches if they focus on shared values and emotional compatibility.

    The current approach encourages men to start dating earlier and women to start later to bridge the age gap. While this helps balance demographics, it doesn’t address unrealistic expectations. For instance, women waiting for a man who is both a full-time learner and financially supported might miss out on a kind, compatible match. Similarly, men seeking a “perfect” wife might overlook someone caring and aligned with their goals. This approach also ignores the diversity within our community, where some rabbis support organizations like WZO while others don’t, highlighting the need for nuanced solutions.

    Materialism exacerbates the problem. Extravagant weddings, luxury lifestyles, and societal pressures have distorted priorities, making dating more about appearances than values. This culture leaves many struggling to meet unrealistic standards, pushing singles to chase superficial traits rather than meaningful connections.

    To solve this, we need a community-wide effort. Rabbis and leaders should teach this mindset in schools and organize singles events to promote realistic expectations. By focusing on shared values, mutual respect, and emotional compatibility, we can create a healthier dating culture. Additionally, as singles age, they often become more selective, narrowing their options. Both men and women must recognize that being overly selective based on past experiences can hinder finding a meaningful relationship. Instead, they should prioritize core values and give potential matches a fair chance.

    By addressing these issues, we can move away from superficiality and materialism, focusing on what truly matters: building relationships based on shared values and mutual respect. This is how we can solve the shidduch crisis and create a brighter future for our community.

    in reply to: Issue with Solving the Shidduch Crisis #2376398
    Talkingtachlisnow26
    Participant

    I’d like to share some thoughts on the shidduch crisis, especially within our community where the ideal is for men to learn Torah full-time for as long as possible, supported by women who either work or receive help from their families. Dating and marriage, in many ways, operate like a marketplace. People evaluate what they bring to the table and what they’re looking for in a partner. In our community, men who are committed to learning Torah, emotionally mature, and share similar values are highly sought after, as are women who are kind, family-oriented, and willing to support their husbands in their learning. But here’s the catch: not everyone fits into these ideal categories, and when the supply of “ideal” candidates doesn’t meet the demand, people get stuck. For example, a woman in her late 20s who is accomplished and religious might struggle to find a match because men her age are often looking for younger women. Similarly, a man who is dedicated to learning Torah full-time but doesn’t come from a wealthy family might be passed over by women who prioritize financial stability or immediate support.

    One of the biggest issues we’re facing is how men and women’s value in the marriage marketplace changes over time. Men in our community tend to become more valuable as they get older because their value is tied to their Torah knowledge, spiritual growth, and ability to provide guidance—qualities that deepen with age. On the other hand, women’s value in the traditional sense—particularly in terms of physical beauty and the ability to have children—tends to decline with age. This isn’t to say women don’t bring immense value in other ways, but the Talmud emphasizes a woman’s role in protecting her husband from evil thoughts and raising children who learn Torah, which are tied to youth and fertility. As a result, younger women are often seen as more attractive to men, while older women may find themselves with fewer options unless they adjust their expectations. This dynamic means that as women get older, they may need to become less selective, understanding that their value in the traditional marketplace has shifted. Men, however, often don’t face the same pressure to lower their standards as they age because their value increases over time.

    The current approach to addressing the shidduch crisis focuses on bridging the age gap by encouraging men to start dating earlier and women to start later. While this aims to balance the demographic mismatch between older men and younger women, it doesn’t fully address the root of the problem: unrealistic expectations. For instance, if a woman is told to wait for a man who is both deeply committed to learning Torah full-time and comes from a family that can provide financial support, she might miss out on a kind, committed match who shares her values but doesn’t meet every item on her checklist. Similarly, if a man insists on a “model” wife who is both stunning and domestically perfect, he might overlook a caring, supportive woman aligned with his goals. This approach also overlooks the diversity of thought within our community. For example, some rabbis support organizations like WZO, while others advise against it, reflecting the need for a nuanced solution rather than a one-size-fits-all plan.

    This problem of singles seeking out superficial traits isn’t an isolated issue—it’s a symptom of a larger community problem. Many rabbis have spoken out about how materialism and luxury have crept into our society, raising the bar for what’s considered “normal” in ways that are often unattainable and unsustainable. From extravagant weddings and designer clothing to luxury cars, vacations, and Pesach hotels, the pressure to maintain a facade of wealth and status has distorted our priorities. This culture of excess has seeped into our dating expectations, where people are judged not just on their character or values but on their ability to project an image of success and luxury. The result is a community where many people are struggling to keep up with these inflated standards, and singles are left chasing superficial traits rather than focusing on what truly matters in a marriage. This isn’t making us better people—it’s making us more superficial, more stressed, and less connected to the values that should guide our lives.

    To properly implement this plan, we need a community-wide effort led by rabbis and community leaders. They should explain this mindset to educators in girls’ schools and boys’ schools, ensuring that young people grow up with a healthier understanding of what truly matters in a marriage. Singles gatherings should also be organized where this logic is clearly explained, and participants are encouraged to adopt this more balanced and realistic approach. By teaching this mindset from a young age and reinforcing it through community events, we can create a cultural shift that prioritizes shared values, mutual respect, and emotional compatibility over superficial traits. This is how we can truly solve the shidduch crisis—by addressing the root of the problem and empowering individuals to make choices that lead to lasting, meaningful relationships. Only by tackling the broader issue of materialism and unrealistic expectations in our community can we create a healthier, more sustainable approach to dating and marriage.

    Additionally, the problem becomes even more challenging as singles get older. With more dating experience, individuals often become more closed-minded, looking back at their past experiences and using them to justify increasingly selective criteria. For example, a woman who has been on many dates might develop a long list of “deal-breakers” based on negative experiences, while a man might become overly focused on finding someone who meets every item on his checklist. This tendency to become more selective with age only exacerbates the shidduch crisis, as it narrows the pool of potential matches and makes it even harder to find a suitable partner. Both men and women need to recognize that this mindset is counterproductive and that being overly selective based on past experiences can prevent them from finding a meaningful relationship. Instead, they should focus on the essentials—shared values, mutual respect, and emotional compatibility—and be willing to give potential matches a fair chance.

    By addressing these issues head-on and fostering a community-wide shift in mindset, we can create a healthier, more inclusive approach to dating and marriage. It’s time to move away from superficiality and materialism and focus on what truly matters: building relationships based on shared values, mutual respect, and a commitment to building a life together. This is how we can solve the shidduch crisis and create a brighter future for our community.

    in reply to: Another (Baltimore) response to the tuition crisis. #2289854
    Talkingtachlisnow26
    Participant

    For those interested the tuition organization in Baltimore is called ACT AHAVAS CHESED TAMID. It’s backed not just by all the leading Rabbis in Baltimore, but other leading Rabbis of America. The person that started it also does storytelling on the Naki Radio under the title Gedolim Stories.

    in reply to: How Corona Taught Klal Yisroel to Make Small Simchas #1841494
    Talkingtachlisnow26
    Participant

    Couldn’t agree more

    in reply to: Shidduch Crisis and the Freezer Defrosting #1830338
    Talkingtachlisnow26
    Participant

    There’s a lot of blame on the men! Y? Y can’t the girls form together and say we are not dating guys unless we are the same age. As much as you say that’s not practical so too is making guys date earlier. Do they think we’re bored and don’t wasn’t to settle down? Hashem created us in a way that we want to get married not continuing to delay marriage unless it’s necessary. So if they have a problem I understand that all of klal Yisrael should be working on fixing it but don’t point the blame game on us. It’s rude and not the proper way of asking us men to help you ladies.

    in reply to: Shidduchim #1820907
    Talkingtachlisnow26
    Participant

    Reb eliezer pointed to my point exactly. Now I want to know what is the thoughts of some members of Klal yisroel!

    in reply to: Shidduchim #1820905
    Talkingtachlisnow26
    Participant

    True we are there to make the choson and Kallah happy but after chuppah there’s a good 45-60mins where everyone is dressed nicely already and a ais ratzon to build a bayis neman beyisrael. And in general there is so much extra time by weddings during the meals that perhaps as I seen at a few weddings a good time to meet shadchanim.

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