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YA – your post is pure baloney, but I assume you know that as it is somewhat obvious from your tone that you are being completely facetious.
No way!!!!
“People conclude that creamers like this are only dairy equipment when this is, in fact, real dairy.”
that is just ignorance (my first choice of word was stupidity) on their part. When I buy soy or almond milk (for example) there is often an OUD and I know that it is 100% my achrius to find out if it is milchik or not. Are people really that ….basic?
Kluger- I hate to spoil your fun but I am pretty sure he wrote this post in response to your last comment in the hopes of you saying exactly what you than sad
They do say lactose free. Perhaps that is good as well
Laskern did not *encourage* chilul shabbos. And I read it wrong either way. Your distortions are really frustrating, and knowing you get pleasure out of cheppering people makes me want to vomit.
Laskern – PLEASE double check with your rav regarding cooking on Shabbos. I believe you are NOT permitted to put cold liquids on a hot plate and have it turn on on Shabbos. Also, and I don’t remember who wrote it above, I am pretty certain you can NOT heat congealed fat or margarine or any solid in a place where it will melt EVEN IF it will not get to YSB
Tomim – great response!
“Yet, if I come and point my pin at their frummie bubble, showing them plenty of areas of being meikil or even going outright against halacha (as in Heicha kedusha), they freak and get bent out of shape, justifying, rationalizing and battling to remain on their frum perch which is being shaken.”
No,they get bent out of shape because you are lying, twisting Halacha, misrepresenting their arguments, defending potential kefira, yelling at people for things they didn’t say or believe, denigrate Gedolim, bad mouth Gedolim while pretending you aren’t, and did I say twisting Halacha? Yes, any good yid will tzitter on their perch when someone plays games with Halacha as you do.
THAT’s what makes them uncomfortable. As it should. But *your* bubble seems to extend as far as your imaginary audience, leaving little room for authentic Torah and actual social interaction.
As I’ve said before, refuah shlaima
“– We once had an adom gadol for a sukkos yom tov meal, we had a bar-b-q going on a low flame, so we served hamburgers, hot dogs and bar-b-q wings. ”
That never happened
Apy and milhouse are correct, and i agree that it is not right to badmouth the OU over this. The creamers say non dairy and the OU labeled it OUD! Do you always use store labels to determine kashrus?
And to whomever said they have plenty non dairy products in their fridge that say non dairy….cmon! Are you just playing or are you missing the point? Coffee creamer/whitener is generally milk or cream. That is why it advertises as non dairy. The same way fake meat is advertised as meatless.I know people have gripes with the OU and I don’t know if they are legitimate grioes or not, but this one sounds like an uneducated consumer issue and it may be wrong to aim it at the OU.
Were you trying to make a point?
Neville- RG is obviously a member of chabad. Knowing that this book would be published wouldn’t be shocking, and therefore dragging it in here makes perfect sense. Why assume he authored it tho? Unless you are saying its his style to gather quotes out of context and call yourself an expert. (Haven’t researched the sefer, just trying to clarify your stance)
No, actually not. I think your posting displays you as someone so self absorbed that he can’t really process anyone actually not appreciating his posts. Combined with too much leitzanus for comfort. Since you asked.
I find your idea of playing games involving great people to be highly offensive. Of course we know you dont mind offendi g people, it’s all part of your peace spreadi g mission. And using the term thick skinned to paint you as a victim instead of being honest was a creative touch.
Neville – why assume that? most of the topics he started were taken from things being discussed, or topics he started to set up posters to give answers that parallel things they objected to when in the Chabad context. I have no idea who this author is, but nobody who is writing sforim is sitting here pretending to be a rebbitzen, and I strongly believe (and have experienced) people who really are talmidei chochomim (if the author is such) could not even fake that level of self importance.
The funniest part to me is that he thought he could convince people he wasn’t a chabadnik.Yes, missed the point. The same way you believe it is sad that their lack of knowledge of chassis us is preventing moshiach from coming. Is that hate? No, it’s following the mesorah you were given.
Jewish1-you seem to have missed the point in a big way. It is *because* of their rabbis that they make a machaa against certain practices (not the ones practicing, a point that is deliberately twisted by those practicing).
Speak for yourself.
Visits, learning, yes. Honor and utmost respect? Not so certain that was the case. Respect for Torah knowledge, absolutely. Your words derived from their actions may make you feel good but I have heard otherwise from some family members of those you mention.
“I can assure you that roughly 0% of the people observing “Y”H” are makpid on avoiding recorded music during the omer.”
both dumb, and incorrect
Joseoh, why do you always interject dumb things into a conversation.
Notice the lack of question mark as there is no answer.Burnt steak – pretty amazing what one motivated teen can do.
Thank you yserbius for your explanation. I hope those who can benefit from it will refrain from latching onto the oo reference and missing your point completely.
Well done.” I am not “pro-Lubavitch” just as I am not “pro-Sefardi” or “pro-Yekka”, if I am “pro” anything, it is pro-Yidden. ”
Yeah, yeah. The effort was there but that mask slipped pages ago.
Haha, And the condescending tone was because he was right, or because you were wrong?
Wow, it’s *that* hard, huh?Laskern- don’t engage! He’s just baiting you because you were a strong voice on the chabad thread. Its a sick revenge that he has convinced himself is an altruistic way to “teach you a lesson”. (He seems to see himself in Gd’s role r”l)
Walk away. Please.Refuah shlaima
“If I caused anyone to get a coranary or bust a vein in their forhead, I ask mechila – but you deserved it ”
This is probably the most serious of all the halachos you have ridiculed. As someone else mentiones it just proves that you are willing to forgo Hashem’s “agenda” for your own. You may be surprised to discover that halacha does not agree with your version of heroism.
“but this self righteous defense of being mean to stop the bashing of others is just annoying trolling ”
agreed. besides the fact that this style was already in place years ago, the idea of berating and mocking people in order to get them to stop doing exactly that is bizarre.
” but the yetzer hara of bashing other yidden is too much fun for everyone to give up”
this is the best line yet – where you are almost able to be honest with yourself….. but then ….
Frpggie- he asked if they are evil, and you said, “in answer to your question, yes he is a sinner”. The answer is no, HE is not evil. But his lifestyle is wrong and there is no flexibility on that.
This is a huge problem with online chats, and this happens too often. Outsiderlookingin, you are badly blurring the lines between what people are saying is wrong and what that means about people themselves. And in all fairness it isn’t being preaented very well. I cannot tell if it is deliberate on your part or if you are sincere. The questions are being asked in a way that requires a harsh response to the presentation that there is a moral compass outside of Torah, but your underlying quest for understanding the effects of not knowing the effects of this needs to be answered differently.
There is an obligation to respond harshly to the blurring of these lines of morality, but there is also an obligation to hear and respond to the questions of those who don’t know in a manner that encourages growth.
You may need a real life person for that, there are answers and in a face to face setting you may gain understanding.Joseph – I would not have expected such an ignorant comment from you. As much as you enjoy cheppering, you usually have a better handle on your fellow posters. Not that CTL needs any help from me, I just am getting a bit tired of posters deciding that he has too much money and therefore is guilty of everything they have determined to be characteristic of that. Shame on you for being so gullible.
First of all, you completely missed his meaning on that comment due to your jumping to conclusions. Secondly, which vacation of his do you think was the problem? Pesach hotel perhaps? Summers in venice or maybe the cruise around the world?
Unless I am wrong, I think you owe him an apology.Joseph – I don’t know if the vast majority of the middle class saw a reduction, I think the difference is how many young children you have. Those with no very young children lost out on the dependents without getting increases in child related credits. Those who have no very young and many over 18 probably took a hit.
CTL – I definitely hear you and believe your story. And I feel bad because no matter how much you have, you are entitled to have whatever you came to honestly and living a “richer life” does not entitle others to care less about your loss. I want to ADD, however, that my tax return showed a tremendous drop in my deductions but an increase in other areas, leaving me with almost the same return. And I just helped two other families file their taxes. One received very little in return and one received thousands more, thru various credits, than they would have otherwise received. And that is food money. So while I do NOT belittle your loss, my happiness for those with small kids, private tuitions etc who now get enough more to cover some bills makes it worthwhile in my eyes. And thankfully, two of those families won’t have to pay a fine they can’t afford for not having health insurance that they can’t afford.
Again, my point is not to negate your claim or belittle your complaint, it is to make you aware that there are a lot of people out there who are benefitting greatly. Please be happy for them as they are no less important US citizens than you and yours.
😂👍
not sure why I am bothering to speak to a wall but the reality you are missing (it’s so hard to see in front of you when your nose is pointed upward) is that the people you are putting down are doing EXACTLY what you claim to be doing for EXACTLY the same reason. But you are so sure you are the only right(eous) one that you can’t decipher the facts on the ground.
RG – I had no questions on what you thought you were doing. I was letting you know (without the detailed illustration of the obvious procedure) that your elevated self confidence rating is clouding your ability to see reality.
Ah, feel the warmth. It’s almost funny how you believe you’re any different than those you insult. Your bright red cape is so real you can almost feel it flapping behind you. Feel the love!
Baltimore – I think haimy’s OP was a bunch of lies meant to annoy and irritate people into coming on here and arguing (this is only one of many such threads of his). So yes, his statements about chareidim are just as ignorant and false as his statement about MO marrying with divorce in mind. BUT – your comment about only the mother seeing the picture is pure fantasy. I have tens of pictures of single girls on my phone sent to me by single guys close to my family asking what I think. And I am one of a handful of others getting them. They also go to sisters, cousins who coach them on shidduchim, friends who give “objective” opinions.
I was actually sickened yesterday when one of the guys sent me a picture of a girl who was more average build sitting at a café with an iced coffee. She was a beautiful girl, possibly a bit overweight in the middle but still beautiful. What is his comment? I don’t know what someone like that is doing with an iced coffee with whipped cream, she sure doesn’t need the calories. This from a guy who would NEVER talk like that about another person. A soft spoken tzanua personality. but this shidduch picture thing is a scam. it’s just disgusting.
“The modern Orthodox or non Jews divorce fairly often ”
That’s not just wrong, it’s ignorant. I don’t know how you can not be embarrassed to say something so off.
” More so is your tone, haughtily putting people down and making a mockery of chazal and halacha.”
oh, have no fear! It’s all part of his love your neighbor campaign. Both mocking chazal and halacha, as well as everyone’s screen names. Just more ways to put people down for the sake of the greater good.Yzj- great stories!
Nobody liked what you said but needed to argue, they were explaining why it was wrong. But instead of admitting that, you pretend they are picking on a few words. No, they explained pretty clearly what was wrong with it. But you are not only willing to acknowledge that they had a point, you are even denying that they responded! Thats a bit bizaarre.
It also has a name. Denial. Yes, you certainly dont want answers, you wont even admit there are questions, but i have witnessed here the most bizarre denial from you and CS before you.Any- just curious who wrote that for you
These stories just make me more frightened to send my kids out with “strangers”
That is really awkward. I hope he didn’t show up to the shiva house every night
Thanks for that laugh! I am now stuck with a picture of that in my head and I can’t stop chuckling. (I’d say everyone around me thinks I’m nuts but they already knew that about me.)
“Anyusername: “(The term supposed was used in the same way I assumed u use the term apikorses – just trying to bring out your point in a very strong way)”
I just realized what you were saying with that, and I don’t believe a word you’re saying!
”I stoll can’t figure out what he means. Can you explain?
Oh wow, what a shock! I never would have guessed that you were trying to draw that parallel . What other gymnastic tricks do you perform?
[Eye roll]I agree with Wolf on this. In many many litvish circles if you start off a sentence with ‘the rebbe’ they will assume you are talking about your son’s teacher. If a chassid starts a sentence with ‘the rebbe’ there is no doubt they are speaking of their own rebbe. We only assume ‘the rebbe’ to be a reference to the lubavitcher rebbe of a lubavitcher said it or if that is the specific topoc of conversation. (Or on the occassion that he is dead and tbey say shlita anyway)
“Disclaimer: I am not Lubavitch or even Chassidic, but I accept all frum Jews and c”v to spread hate and mock others just because I don’t understand or follow their ways)”
You give yourself way too much credit. Your posts carry no shortage of hatefulness and pretty one sided at that. The fact that you seem to believe your motives to be different doeant change what is coming out of your mouth, it is merely clouding your vision.