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Nom – he was using the flip phone to paticipate during lackdown
So, so much. But at this moment, as the unemployment supplement ends, I am so thankful to Hashem for giving me 3.5 months to be home with my children with a full paycheck. It is a dream i had since i started working without ever thinking it could happen.
Oh please. That’s not even almost possible. Unless you mean in 1925 but I don’t know if there were checkbooks then.
That is so funny. No, i don’t generally lose sleep, but i find my brain tends to keep the files open indefinitely. I don’t think i thought about it regularly, just when i came across that thread or a reference. As far as Lashon Hora, I don’t think I know enough detail to know what you mean, so no worries.
Dr Pepper- i just had a flash of onspiration. After reading that thread so many times over the years it just occurred to me. Could the wagon be a reference to a squeaky wheel?
Thanks for indulging me, I have always been obssessed with mysteries. I starting reading thru all your posts, having a blast. I remember the wagon wheels, wondering what they meant and feeling a desire to be a part of the “in” crowd.
So far I’ve caught the friedman and khan refrences. Am I allowed to say that?
Wow! Truly fascinating. Did you ever tell him you figured it out?
Oh boy, you got me so curious!!
Emunas – yes, I do agree with that statement that once it is proven safe I won’t care where it came from.
GH – it’s an anti vaxxer being sarcastic. Nobody else would ever use the phrase ‘pump babies with them’
I am all for vaccines, but not from russia. Even if it’s true that we know it works cuz they pre vaccinated their cirizens begore the outbreak and therefore avoided cases til months later. I still wouldn’t want to take it. Not a lot of trust there.
The dorms have not all re opened.
They sufferred early and continued precautions for months until things seemed to cool down. Those at risk continue to be cautious, but the others have put much of it behind them, just as we too will when we have moved as far forward on our own timelines.
Although people are out and seemingly carefree, to judgemental onlookers, many have been deprived of hugs from their grandparents for more than half a year as they really are well aware of which precautions are still necessary. I don’t know if they’re right or wrong, but it needs to stop being presented as negligence.
We must be careful not to fall into the timeline trap while using our binoculars. It is analogous to making a phone call at noon on tisha bav to a friend in israel and being appalled that they are eating when you know the fast is still far from over.
I’m always so amazed and impressed at your accurate insight into the lives of the chareidim! It’s so refreshing. Perhaps you should contact the producers of “south Park” who share your vision and would probably appreciate your contributions.
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Pretty sure they’re all the same Joseph. I checked a few joseph profiles but found nothing more recent than july 2nd.
Dr. Pepper- joseph hasn’t posted in over a month and with Covid-19 I worry about people when they go awol. There is no way he would miss out on responding to a post from you so hopefully we will hear he is well.
Someone sent me a video that was also on the front news page featuring a doctor in florida stating that hcq WITH zinc has been found effective but the news is avoiding it. I do not remember the doctors name but he did not appear to be jewish.
I heard that claim about blank test swabs being submitted and figured it to be true. Then i heard the “real story” (quotes because i have no way to verify it) is that 2 people were waiting to be tested and it was taking forever so they left. And then they got calls that their tests were positive. If that’s the case, i dont believe it for a second. Nobody labels test swabs and puts them in a pile til the persons turn comes in the queue. The story is probably fake.
That being said, I’ve heard that their are reliability issues but i don’t think i would have the chutzpah to be out in public with a positive. I was sick for weeks and better, completely better for 5 or 6 days before it all started up again. I don’t think it was a relapse, i think that’s the profile of this virus. Thank Gd i didnt go out during those days
If i googled correctly, illinois average is 7k plus per student with chicago public schools at 4 something thousand.
Huju- I’m in!
A brand new 800 kid school was built at my front door within a community that had no need (lots of political issues attached). A handful of us wanted to have our community registet all 2000 of our kids (someone told me that was the number) as our community bordets are not big and most fall in that schools boundaries (hence the lack of need for the school there). 23 million was spent on that school. They would have had to fill it with us. Unfortunately nobody knew enough to do something about it.
Having spent many years in the public school system, i believe (but never varified) that there are a huge number of costs that are not absorbed by the student or school directly in the way they are in the private school. Many things coming thru the district are not the responsibility of the individual school and there are teams and deoartments that handle things that our schools havebto take on on their own.
Midwesterner- if you experienced it firsthand i won’t argue it. Although i would more likely believe that it happened in the reverse, tuition remains high because people can’t pay, as opposed to being a lichatchila.
The second part, besides making my pulse quicken, is also sad. This distortion seems to be so present in a certain demographic, as expected, but im finding too many of them who 10 years later can’t seem to let go. It breaks my heart really.
Common- you do realize how irrelevant that is don’t you?
Interjection – i don’t think that answer is correct but it certainly is somewhat insulting.
Huju- I’m seriously trying to understand you. You really think it’s no big deal to stick our kids in public school. You don’t see any problems with exposure to non tznius peers and teachers, nivel peh, innappropriate books, kol isha, gym class with mandatory shorts/t shirts, building peer relationships as 2nd, 3rd fourthh graders with non jews and their philosophies? Do you think it’s just an issue for narrow minded, extremists? Considering my oposing equal to wanting to raise my kids in a cave? Please explain what I’m missing cuz even my most modern and less affiliated friends and relatives would not consider putting their kids in public schools.
I don’t know who you are, or who you think you are, but nothing gives you the right to berate a doctor sowith such vile accusations because he doesnt hold of a bunch of things you read up on.
I have to say that both charlie and ubiq hate trump so much that i don’t know if i believe rhey can have ahonest view of hqc, but i also know thst there has never been any reason to question their integrity as doctors or their intelligence regarding their area of expertice.
It’s tisha baav, in case you missed it, give it a rest.
“even went looking for a communal pot that would be distributed among the local schools. There was none. ”
We do in Chicago
If you totally fargin them you wouldn’t need to leep mentioning it.
CS – Point 1. It still doesn’t fit in if you understand the meaning of it.
Point 2. You are just proving my suspicions, it is personal and it is frustrating as heck. There are jerks and bad apples everywhere. Nobody argues that point. But for you to act like this is standard procedure for these institutions is fake news. I don’t blame you for being so incensed about that, I am the same way. But to obsess over all the institutions, casting suspicion on them all on a public forum excessively is not the answer.I have been badly burned by individual in high religious position. It traumatized me to no end. And damaged
plenty. My response was similar to yours. While it has been about 8 years and I still cannot resolve the issue in my head or heart, I no longer need to carry those trust issues over to everyone in high positions and assume they are all covertly doing the same. We who would never behave that way cannot bear to see such behavior in those we hold in higher esteem. It is a tragic reality out there.When you want to donate – check the place out. When paying tuition, ask good questions. When faced with a campaign for a school, do your research. But there is no need to act like every school is like the one you mention. And don’t forget that their behaviors are being duly recorded by Hashem.
how soon we forget? It isn’t march anymore, thank Gd. Pretending it is is not the same thing as remembering. I don’t know about where you live but here in Chicago the high risk people are smart enough to be taking precautions. They are not in public crowds without masks, they are not in gatherings without masks, some not even with masks.
I personally did not and would not walk around anywhere with a positive covid status. But saying someone is killing people right and left is just nonsense. And my response was to that word choice.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣good luck with that!
You mean like we did after yankele rosenbaum, the monsey stabbing, and the jersey city murders?
Im not sure how that fits here.
Killing people right and left? Really now.
Woah mr Saychel, you seem a bit overly obssessed with opening everyone’s books. I mean feel free to be curious but you seem to be over the top with it. Past trauma? Deep seated competition between you and an old friend? Maybe you should consider working this thru with someone. Scrutinizing everyone’s books personally when it is relevant is one thing. Needing to enforce scrutiny in all frum organizations books thru a public forum…sounds like a middos issue.
“the level of gashmius in America”
America? Please don’t throw the rest of us into your septic tank. I hate when people think the whole world lives like you guys do.
CS – I don’t get it. You don’t like the way some random anonymous poster describes the yeshiva so you transfer that to the boys? What Shaichus?
What’s bunk?
No, it was taken out of context. Pathetically so.
But talking fact to anti trumpers is even more frustrating because they can’t even hear you and their arguments make them sound like their iq’s dropped 30 points. There’s no rationality. Obama bombed, not banned. You have a country deliberately planting cells for terrorism in the US and you are complaining they trump wanted them vetted first. Are you also one of those people who insists thst breathing air filled with covid19 germs is your right and government shouldn’t prevent that either? Wake me when you guys grow upSom1- i believe some could have that attitude,
but i have trouble believing it was expressed over that. And i don’t think we knew at that time that it was muslims. Don’t mean it didn’t happen, but even jerks would let someone cry…“total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.”.
Jackk – so cute! You call it truth cuz he actually said it but it’s still a lie when out of context.
Here’s another “racist” story like that one:
4 black people and one arab are on the street and the arab pulls a gun on someone. The cops arrest the arab and people like you retell the story like this, “cops single out muslim bystander in racist arrest!”SB – i hear, and although I don’t have facebook, I see plenty of it here, so I agree with the theory. I also seem to remember you leaning toward controversy in other posts… as I said, I was wrong about your intention.
Anon Jew- is this regulating only for weeding out kollel people or are you advocating a wellness check on the rest of the recipients as well. I would guess being in kollel when you shouldn’t be is an internal monitoring issue, and funding has no shaichus. If you leave kollel you still need the help.
Also – what’s with so many people talking about this free money for kollelites as if they aren’t putting in 54 hours a week for inferior healthcare and just enough funds to not starve but not enough to actually live off of? Why is it bugging you so much? Because you think they are using up *your* money? I hope you have the same attitude toward *every single public school student* who fails to get a college degree.
“would it make you happier if from now own I use more yeshivish language?”
Still wondering what this responds to. I didn’t say you don’t talk like a kollel person, i said your choice of wording lacks a display of support for it. You are saying “poor by choice” is complimentary? Okay, although I don’t think thats inherently obvious. Committed to a low paying job? Committing to being a perpetual student? Those sound more respectful in a world/forum where people see ‘poor by choice’ as the begining of the sentence, and ‘so they can collect welfare’ as the end.
I stand corrected.“And Syag believes that I’m moronic,”
I said the question is moronic
“disgusting”
I said your word choice was disgusting
” and definitely a nonkollel person”
I do believe it would take a non kollel supporter to label kollel as you did. I am always willing to be mistaken.
“for the sin of writing that kollel yungerleit are mosser nefesh to go through unbearable financial lachatz so they can learn as long as is physically possible”
That is *exactly* what you *didn’t * write. Or imply. Perhaps you should have.
(“deliberately poor as a lifestyle”). What made you think I don’t value that??? ”
Your word choices.
“Is this controversial?”
You wouldn’t have bothered writing it if it wasn’t. But it’s also moronic and based on false premises that only a non kollel yid could invent.
The welfare system isn’t there to only fund people who happen to be out of work but wish they weren’t. It’s about income levels per capita. Period. Your statement about “choosing to be poor” is disgusting. Im sure you would never grant such a title to someone who decides to live on one income so that their kids don’t have to be raised by babysitteres. Or how about someone who leaves their job to put together a startup that may never take off or is in a field that doesn’t make tons? Do you call them deliberately poor as well? Or is it the lack of value of long time learning that runs your campaign?
If i was a government employee and i saw a group of people who put in 10 hour days, showed up 6 days a week, gave up alot of life’s physical perks, and were married to women who were proud of them, all because it brings you closer to Gd and gives you endless reward, i wouldn’t just be glad to help, but i would chastise the community for not paying them more.
You seem to have very little understanding of what “life on welfare” looks like. Or what the majority of it’s recipients are doing with their waking hours.
He didn’t post asking if an aveira he did was wrong. He saw something that seemed to be questionable being done by frum yidden so he asked about it. If you have an answer of halachik or hashkofic relevance, post it. Telling him people can do whatever they want is not a torah based response unless yoy are saying its halachically permissible.
Jewish Music – his mistake of looking at his mother’s stuff does not make the issue irrelevant. If i peek thru your window on shabbos and see you watching tv does my peeking make your behavior irrelevant? Am i then not allowed to wonder how you can watch tv on shabbos?
“that frum bochurs in rumpled black suits and rumpled white shirts and unkempt shoes think they look more pious, ”
I would bet big money thst that judgement takes place in your head only. It’s the standard racial profiling assumption of the MO/religious zionists on the yeshivish.
“I think less,
There are less distractions Oot”
Less rejection, less insistance on being a round
pegI know what you are trying to say, but its not a computer program. Real life has too many variables. The oxygen exchange in the lungs was actually affected by mini clots so the blood thinners will also change those results. And monitoring o2 levels in people who *can* breathe wasn’t considered at the beginning of that pandemic but it’s known now so less people will end up becoming critical due to that. The plasma helps but it depends how potent the batch was and how many other issues the person has. You may be right that it shouldn’t change its profile by hitting the young instead of the old, but if a state has a high percentage of sick children due to a local hospital/rehab, you may see numbers that seem to indicate just that.
Nom- I don’t know why i find your posts so hard to follow. Nobody is stupid enough to send positive patients back to nursing homes. They are hardly releasing positive patients at all which is one of the reasons for all of the multiple tests.
The coronavirus is not a computer program. It is not being played out with the same numbers again and again because we have different treatments and protocols now. There is no similarity between the handling and treatment of patients now 2 then. Different number of hospitalization per positive cases does not compare and neither does the number of deaths per hospitalizations.