🍫Syag Lchochma

I wonder what happened to all the replies. I would have loved to read them. Either way, great OP.

all the way up to pelosi

jackk – i do appreciate you responding.
I don’t think any of what you said had anything to do with my point except to support it. So thanks for that. But I will continue to be frustrated at the way people (otherwise intelligent rational people) who are still suffering from TDS I guess, cannot have a conversation about anything around this without going nuts, doing their best to list every possible offense and every single nasty derogatory name they can come up with that will make it thru the mods. I may not know politics but I do know people. That is not called a conversation. that is what people do when they are triggered. Feel free to commence with a defense of said response but my word stands. People are NOT ready to listen or hear ANYTHING outside of their script. And by definition that excludes you from seeking, accepting or contemplating truth.
I will wait. And by waiting I don’t mean Im look forward to a day when it can be discussed, I just mean I will daven that these days end.

Regarding your comment about klal yisroel having more important concerns in the 23rd century. Interesting. So you think right now we don’t? I find that hard to process.

this whole thing makes me sick. None of you have changed your script, still reading the pre printed pamphlets and teleprompters. There is absolutely no possibility of finding “truth” when ears are still clogged. Is there EVER going to be a time when there can be a rational discussion about the atrocoties of the day with the ability to sort thru the facts on BOTH sides of what went wrong on BOTH sides without the spewing of party line garbage???

Really now.

I was in tears over the testimonies of pain and anguish, but AT THE SAME TIME, without diminishing my objectivity toward their trauma, I was also shocked at how they were asked to present so much politics, political opinion etc in their testimonies. How low can these senators go? They NEVER would have testified in the way they did (regarding the embellishments, not the facts) if this were a REAL hearing aimed at actually finding out what REALLY went down.

When will there be a time when people can GROW UP and STEP BACK from their crazy color war and do things with objectivity and integrity without bias and hatred and HYPOCRACY and all this divisive STUPIDITY!!!!!

add on for those too blind to read/hear – – – I am talking about the “hearings”, NOT the riot.

Thank you again. And again, I couldn’t agree with that more.

Maybe we can close this up? Just to be safe?

That wasn’t implied

GH – i appreciate the explanation and i apologize for my mistake. The way you wrote your post sounded like you were putting his advocacy as an override to his offensiveness and you gave no indication that you felt negatively, just saying he wasn’t pc. I stand corrected.

I remember those jokes, very funny. Who’s on firat happena to be a favorite.

I am not sure what you are trying to say with, “go sneezing around”. I find you tend to use animalistic/derogatory descriptors when referring to either “black hat wearers” or people who don’t wear masks your way so I don’t feel like I have a fair picture of your situation. I will say, however, that before covid everyone sneezed and coughed in shul. And in school. And at work. People are not given time off for the week or two duration of their cold and will only take off days when it is at it’s worst. And I am NOT referring to Jewish facilities, I mean all of them. I have never worked anywhere that allowed a person to take sick days until their symptoms disappeared. The expectation (and generally followed behavior) is the use of precautions like covering your mouth when sneezing or coughing.

So you respond by supporting my point? Then how do you explain using these halachik terms according to your fancy? I figured you didn’t know better, now you say you knew but you like your way better?

>> Troll post <<

So i was just wondering how many of you were part of the 150 americans that biden said voted in the last election?

Sorry, couldn’t help it…

“I tried to balance my own view on what is right with not offending the locals. ”

There’s no issue of offending people. They aren’t judging you as you are judging them.

“I think distance was less visibly jarring to them than being over-masked. ”

Again, what are you talking about?? Your masks and your distance aren’t “jarring”! (Seriously?) They don’t care. Your willingness to be less careful is not their doing. It comes from knowing the danger doesn’t really exist. If it did, you would never compromise for perceived insult.

“After all, their local cougher ”

You do realize there are other viruses besides covid out there, right?

“but he did not look like he cared much.”

I think he really cared a lot but was afraid of jarring you with overjudgementalism so he just wandered around hoping you wouldn’t have him thrown out.

AAQ – I have no doubt that your kids are doing well homeschooling thru online programs, it is obviously something into which you have invested a lot of time and energy and commitment.. I have not found the other line programs to be useful for anyone but myself so if it is working for you and your kids count your blessings.

Problem for me is instead of you insisting on a total online Internet revamp in the schools for the sake of expanding the covid-19 epidemic, possibly supports  your personal and political views. I don’t understand why you will not accept and acknowledge the return to the classroom of most of the bais yakov schools was the right move. You can see it worked out well, why can’t you acknowledge that and say perhaps you were wrong about the need to lock the kids up longer? Or that you are glad it worked and everyone was safe because you weren’t expecting that. Why no flexibility on this when the facts don’t add up in your favor?

AAQ – Lets put this into your type of language. the virtual learning was necessary from after Pesach until summer vacation. Any virtual learning after that (unless homeschooling) was for people willing to abandon their children’s emotional and developmental health for the sake of politics and psychotic parents. Any who continued to keep a healthy child on zoom beyond summer 2020 had no interest in what was best for their children to the point of possible negligence.

Avrum – thank you

AAQ – I have another great idea for the schools to do. They started meeting in person with masks and social distancing right from the start in September. No zoom, no online, no firing people. Actually putting the health of the children before the whims of various adults. It prevented losing more than just those two three months of school and before you open your mouth with curses, BH NOT ONE CASUALTY. Which just proves that it was the right decision, anything less would have been forfeiting children’s health and well being, and putting the children at the bottom of the agenda.

Side point (cuz I know you don’t like when reality proves you wrong so I’ll give you a distraction to focus on instead) I have done several online schools with my kids or clients for different reasons. Both Jewish and not jewish programs. In a word, they stink. If you don’t have someone standing there with you, or if you don’t happen to be one of the 20% (assumed figure) who can maneuver it alone it isn’t really any kind of option at all.

Common- while i don’t disagree with you, why did you ignore the 3 absoluyely moronic and somewhat insulting posts and comment on his, which was neither?

They have social activities as well. You can meet people like yourself as well as keeping friends you already have. Looking for friends online isn’t safe at all and you should never try to make friends that way.
Plwase ask your mom or your doctor or call refuah and tell them what you are looking for. Those are safe options. Asking people online is never a good idea unless you can get someone you trust to check in to it

Avi- i have always used that line (yet in other forms) but it loses it’s humor coming from someone who believes there are two, e”y and galus 😉

Wearing a light mask out of respect? Im confused. Why does that give respect? They don’t mind you covering your face in any way you choose. And why would you risk being murdered in cold blood since you have already repeated ad nauseum that attending a shul with murderers is more than probable death? How do you make those statements and then demonstrate that you really don’t believe that at all.

Regarding the sneezing, my husband had an awful non covid virus and chose to sit in the back. The one person in shul with a mask sat down next to him. Regardless how much he sneezed, the man did not move and instead my husband decided that he would relocate himself. I guess if it’s more political than health related it can cause some inconsistent behaviors.

Are you under the false impression that emuna pshuta is an insult?

So I’m understanding that you switched targets because you realized you made a mistake in your original attack.
Apology accepted.

Let’s see if breaking it down works

Illustration removing trigger-topics

Scientist: i have not found enough bacteria in the food samples to cause death

Listener: the scientist just said that there is no bacteria in the food samples

Me: No, he just said it wasn’t enough to cause death.

Period.

“You can certainly disagree with my opinion based on what your Rabbonim paskened and based on what your doctors say. This does not bound me in any way to your decisions.”

No, but just like him you should be bound to what your Rabbonim paskened as well.

I don’t have such a strong opinion of the vaccine, but i can’t chose one based on whether or not there are rabbis out there who support it. It has to be yours.

That is very sad. I think you are very wrong about thinking being liberal makes you proud of your differences. Being liberal only means telling everyone else how to think.
I know very many orthodox who are proud of their autism. You should ask your parents to get you in touch with yachad activities and other organizations. There are hundreds of adults -both young and old – who would probably love to meet you. Don’t give up. Ask your case worker or a rav to find out who you can talk to about meeting people like you.

Health- i do remember a time when you used to participate in regular topics and conversations without all the yelling and name calling. It would be nice to have you back again. Care to rejoin?