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Where did SiDi go?
In regard to my true story being true, it IS true. I just changed some of the details to protect the identity of the characters.
Yes there is.
OOM is just her nickname. Her real name is one of many
First I want to know why you didn’t answer my question.
It is very hard to tell horror stories like that in this forum. I can tell you about a man who used to sit in shul and talk about all the things Obama did to ruin our country and how people were so sick of listening to him that they had to volunteer him to be the Shaliach tsibur for every tefillah. The problem is that no matter how make believe the story is, I have no doubt you will actually know people in real life who do that very thing.
Except for one guy who talked about politics all day and he was so full of hot air that when the furnace broke they actually had him stand in the back of the shul and blab just to keep the mispallelim warm.
oomis – love it
moski – you had me rolling, why’d you take it down?
Sam2 – Parve? I know some are meikel abut it needing to be cholov yisroel but I never heard parve.
Okay, here’s a real story about unicorns and puppies. This is a true story. Once there was a Unicorn who lived in the tri-state area (or whatever). He was a beautiful animal and everyone loved him dearly. One day a puppy wanted to be redt to this unicorn but she knew he was too perfect and would never agree to go out with her. She looked like a dog, after all. So her father hired some poachers to bag the unicorn one day on his way home from testing colonge samples at Macy’s. They tied him up and brought him to a back alley where two thugs etched nivel peh into the surface of his unicorn. The unicorn was beside himself with pain over his destroyed image but now that he was damaged goods he was willing to go out with the puppy, who never told him her father was the cause of all his heart ache because she truly believed that it was a mitzvaas asei to do that to someone since it helped them to not be so gaavehdik. And they lived happily ever after.
oom – it’s so not the same. my brother does send it in with messengers whenever possible.
on the other side of the simbatyon, maybe. If there’s wifi.
Okay, here’s a story. Once there was a family from out of town that drove East to visit some people in that part of the United States. They were far enough away from “the city” to see lower priced big houses, but close enough to “the city” to have to pay a lot of money in tolls and stuff. The kids started drooling over the big houses and the father started drooling over the low gas prices. The mother shook her head sadly and said, “I could never live here. Not after all the horrible things I heard about this place in the CR”. So they stopped off for a months supply of drakes cakes and headed for home.
Reporting from somewhere on Hwy 80
feif – considering the response you are sure to get is this consider a michshol?
P.S. We used to sing this at camp. Thanks for the memories 🙂
Its kind of funny how you let some posters criticize you without taking insult, and when other posters say they dont like a comment of yours you accuse them of being mean and insulting. You are obviously not sensitive so your point must be just to make fun of us who are. How troll-ish.
I am in New Jersey and someone who knows I don’t live here said, “Are you in town?”
That would be a pretty funny bump-er sticker
moski – I think your randomness makes you more fun.
with good reason, I am told
oomis – I’m feeling the same way, must be the weather (?)
She said she had left her computer behind, that may be one reason we don’t hear from her. Hope she is well.
choppy – Thank you. Since my EZpass is really an IPass it probably doesn’t qualify for any sign-up.
I am refraining from commenting on whether or not it is my business how others dress but I will throw out there that it does make it harder for me to enforce proper dress for my own kids when the people around them are not dressed per halacha. (The same goes, of course, for any public behavior.)
I work hard to teach my children what their halachik obligations are, and I try very hard to be respectful toward the people in their lives. Sometimes I have no choice but to tell them (when they ask) that a person is doing something that is not appropriate (I am NOT talking about hashgafik differences) but it gives me a chance to teach them the difference between respecting people and respecting their behaviors. Regardless of what they do, they have an obligation to respect all Yidden. That does not change the fact, however, that what they see their peers do affects what they long/ask for.
And yes, we try to practice what we preach and will not defend our own behavior when it falls short.
I went from NJ to Monsey today and didn’t know I had the option of telling anyone. I should pay more attention next time. Do you think it’s too late to call them and tell them I had a carpool but forgot to say so?
moskidoodle – Thanx for the laugh. As usual.
choppy – you obviously don’t know me.
SiDi – thanks, I need the chizuk today.
Just a weird transposition of this story, I often work with children with Autism, and one could NOT bear wearing his shoes. His teachers used to punish him by putting them on!.
interjection – You are either too used to this stuff to see why it isn’t okay, or you aren’t raising kids right now. If it doesn’t bother you, that doesn’t mean it’s okay or that I shouldn’t raise my kids to be above it.
bygirl93 – I am pretty sure you missed my point.
I agree with you completely in your answer to what you thought I said. Assumptions, stereotyping and generalizations are also my pet peeves but how people behave should be on your list too. Whether or not these few boys grew up or not is irrelevant, some behaviors are unnacceptable even for immature people (who, btw were old enough to drive).
Stories like this make me sick. If this is who “yeshiva bochurim” have become, and everyone else thinks it’s so funny, I really fear for my kids. Especially when these guys turn around and talk about how much frummer they are than the guys who wear colored shirts. Hashem Yishmor.
had this been done in a public school setting it would be on the 6 o’clock news and the teacher would be under investigation.
I work in some really good public schools and I’m not sure what part of this would make the news. The screaming and yeling our kids listen to in the name of “keeping order” would send one of those teachers out, but this? And sending a kid “a couple of classes down” is sooo horribly abusive yet I hear nobody complaining about that. Not only is the child humiliated in front of his own class, the younger grade teacher is usually thrilled to accept the older boy and humiliate him further as he takes a seat in the back of the room, and I know for a fact that MANY of those younger boys will always remember the “bad” boy who had to sit in their class. I am not using my personal view of shoes to make this comment, I hate the way kids are disciplined and am very vocal to the teachers about it, but this response seems so out of proportion considering the other stuff going on.
BTW if your children would be THRILLED to walk without shoes, why did you buy them shoes in the first place?
seriously?
ICOT – That was great! Ever since losing both parents I have had such a different outlook on my mortality and my time in this Olam HaSheker. It is amazing how having these lenses has given me the ability to see things as more valuable and to thank Hashem for every bit of time I have to do things, be with people and try so hard to do what He wants from me. It is almost as if seeing an “end” (though not ch”v soon) helps me persist thru the tough spots, knowing they are just “temporary”. You have a real wisdom and heart that is not common enough and I appreciate that which you share with us.
Mazel Tov, Ad Meah V’Esrim!!!!!!
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HaLeivi, the thought came to me many times as you seem (to me) to follow her around either defending or elaborating on comments she made on threads you would not otherwise seem to be interested in. You do not seem (again- to me) like the type of man who would do that with/for a female you were not related to.
Since moski seems to know everything I figured I would run it past him.
Goq – I left you a message on the tongue tied thread
yitay – PLEASE be moichel me! I didn’t mean you were the yelling type at all. I meant it tongue in cheek because it felt like pure deja vu from that thread about the girl who saw someone buy a “non-kosher” candy bar at 7-11 and you said she may be relying on the ingredients. Truth is, on his way out his kids asked for the gum and he said he couldn’t give it to them until he found out if it was kosher. I only meant to bring back good memories of an old thread 🙂
<side whisper> Goq – if he’s still in the hood I’ll take care of him for you. Send me his initials in morse code. . .</side whisper>
<sidebar> yitay – are you in Chicago? The guy in front of me at 7-11 was buying wrigleys gum and I wanted to tell him they weren’t kosher but was afraid it was you and that you would yell at me.
This is something I work so hard on understanding. It is true that I have learned to pity mean, hurtful people and it has changed my life. Unfortunately, when someone is as you describe, it is hard to forgive them, and hard to understand why Hashem requires it of you. The two people who I have not been able to forgive fit much of your description but they would never think to apologize for anything. They, too, believe they are doing the right thing for the klal. The worst for me is that I can extricate myself from the situation but they are hurting many others and I cannot change anything. So how do I forgive them when it continues?
I am working on this with a friend and we learned that you are supposed to forgive their actions because this is what Hashem wanted for both of you. But you are NOT required to forget, or to pretend it never happened. You can tell yourself that this person’s behavior is pathetic, that you pray he will learn what he is doing wrong and correct it, and know with a full heart that Hashem meets out punishment as required to those who have earned it. Beyond that, you do not need to send him flowers or invite him for tea. Just don’t spit when he walks by.
Even this has been very difficult for me because this man is in chinuch and my children are involved, but I am davening that Hashem give me the ability to forgive as he requires.
Can I get back to you after Shabbos?
don’t worry, I saw yours was left behind so I took it for you. Pick it up anytime.
moski – Hmmm, that’s a very concise answer for a moskidoodle. Are you hiding confidential information?
42 – smooooth
I am not mocking your post in any way, I don’t know your son and fully trust your opinion on this punishment for him, but I would be THRILLED if my son’s school chose that punishment. My kids hate wearing shoes and would definitely chose being sock footed over sitting in a desk through recess, copying a mishna or tefilla by hand, or sitting in the office where every parent and guest stares at them. For them it would be a treat. Maybe the counselor’s think they’ve picked something ‘light’?
I cannot believe that the posters in this thread think that encouraging Jews to eat treif is a Torah value.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
huh?????
Moski – any thought about zk and halevei being related?
I didn’t think it was an attempt at impersonation, I thought it was an attempt at humor.
shout out to MIDWESTERNER: My bro said he thinks he saw you at the siyum over at his end of the country. Where you there?
I have another screen name that I made for a sensitive topic but I forgot the password. I have actually forgotten most of my passwords. And since I use my kid’s birthdays as my passwords, that is really sad.