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It mattered enough for you to declare that you know more than he does in order to boost yourself up to make a point. It stopped being important when you got called on it. To me, credibility is pretty important.
AAQ – if you were paying attention only one of the “witnesses” was first hand reporting.
hey shadchansays! how you feeling these days?
what’s it to you??
your not making sense. You said you know better, you didn’t say you have heard differently from teachers. And you are trying to walk it back.
Bottom line, you have no clue who Rabbi Wein is and what he knows, it’s a chutzpah for you to proclaim you know more at your age than he knows, let alone make statements about who he knows or where he gets his information. I am offended by your arrogant stand (not that you need to lose sleep over that) and I question the credibility of your other claims now knowing the lack of credibility to these.I sadly don’t expect this to take up even a moment in your day. But at least I tried.
Avram for President!!
right, but you didn’t reference any rabbeim, you claimed to know more and better. You yourself, not crediting your outlook to anyone.
exactly! like why this needed to be it’s own thread instead of a reply on the other one.
is this really a question? c’mon man!
For the record, Avirah edited his last posts to say he was relying on information from his rabbeim instead of just his own knowledge, which it did NOT say originally.
R Wein has never been “merely” a historian. Although you obviously have much more prestigious credentials given your “close ties with the insular world he isn’t part of”.
GH – I am available for preliminary editing
ujm – it has been quite amusing to watch you take a back seat to Avirah’s posts over these months (is it perhaps years yet?) as he speaks for you but at greater length and detail. I have been wondering what you have been filling your extra time with, part time kollel perhaps?
“From your posts i don’t think you agree with everything the covid experts say, even though they’re scientists and know a lot more about medicine than you do, ”
no, my own doctors I followed. because they know more than me and I have verified their integrity. Even if I disagreed.“Also, to be honest, i do think i know more about rabbinic history than he does, having had close ties with an insular world that he isn’t part of and which doesn’t spend a lot of time documenting its history. ”
I guess it doesn’t take much to zero out your credibility. Knowledge I respect highly, arrogance I can’t. No worries tho, you’ve got Jo backing you.As I said. Truly sad.
And the saddest part is that you actually see it as a parallel.
“I don’t understand what r. berel weins comments have to do with anything (not that i agree with them, for a host of reasons)”
Cute that you also know history better than Berel Wein.definitely not a troll post
“Um, .5 and .50 are the same amount.”
I thought his point was that the nurses didn’t seem to know that.Are you kidding?
Haha! Best post yet!
Not surprised. I think we’ve met most of them.
Joseph was one guy posting 5 different ways, not 5 different guys posting 1 way
Reb E – you keep repeating those headlines over and over but you don’t bother with follow up. And if someone says he wasn’t a white supremacist, even tho he is a moron, the conversation ends there and goes off on a rant about how Trump needs to be ALL bad things, not just some. It’s okay to have one thing that doesn’t apply to Trump. You can still write him off, call him other names and daven for his arrest without looking negligent. Honestly, Trump haters still seem to be devoting more of their waking hours to Trump then his supporters who have better things to do. Maybe it’s more of a love-hate?
I was thinking that too. I don’t remember seeing him involved in any of those.
GH – sorry, wasn’t aimed your way.
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if thats your version of data collection i sure hope you arent a statisticianCTL – I am surprised you are even responding. What is the point of having a conversation with people who are in it for the emotional response instead of the exchange of ideas. Not worth your time, really.
Who has trouble calling them reshaim? The issue of letting a country deal with their own does not imply support, approval or anything of the sort. How hard is that to understand?
Supporting other countries making their own decisions in no way translates as approving of their decisions. It just means they need to handle it themselves.
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if that’s the case then i can only wonder why you’ve been davening byichidus
gosh, they had to wait thru 13 posts for someone to react that way.
are you familiar with the term “chepper”?“Oddly, in all the years I’ve rarely seen someone’s Talis fall off in Shul.
It’s been working the good ole fashioned way for thousands of years. No need to reinvent the wheel.”
well that’s a pretty odd comment.
you dont see the talis fall off because the guys are constantly readjusting it. Hence the question. And if you say you haven’t seen that either then so what? How many guys would notice something like that.my guess would be that you already do
welcome to crazy town
sorry for upsetting you. I actually didn’t want any illustrations, I’ve tried to pin you down on accusations you’ve made and you usually respond with lots of anecdotes that I felt just carried the conversations off topic. I also wouldn’t imagine you rebuffing the “management of your affairs over the newsgroup” when you are usually the first one to give advice to people who may not have asked for any. (“I had a runny nose yesterday” gets a response of – maybe you should contact the custodian of your shul or the rabbi and ask them if you can measure the airflow in the vents. Are people in your shul careless? Are they spreading covid and causing deaths? here are some ideas for you to make your congregation into better people….etc) Given that, I wouldn’t have thought you would be bothered by being on the receiving end.
Regardless, I’m sorry it bugs you. Really. I can’t tell you I will be able to let your condescending remarks about the system go unchallenged, but i will do my best to address you more sensitively. I will also suggest that sometimes when you realize you have spoken in error, it is less painful to just retract then to elaborate with tangential stories that you didn’t really want to share. Maybe we will meet halfway.
“I did go and talk to that teacher during PTA”
i specifically said mediator.
CTL – I am not really sure what point you are making or if you understood his. I could be wrong (usually am in foreign affairs stuff) but I thought he was satiring where the administration is taking us. What the administration seems to think is a plan for the future.
It sounds like you were wanting to say that they don’t have freedom in china, or that we shouldn’t want to merge with them, but then your supporting evidence was masks and vaccine mandates?
Bouncing Yak – you are both very right and very wrong. And to explain it would take a lot of time and face to face conversations but I wanted to get this post in before someone says something insulting, forgetting not everyone here has any background.
Yes we should be a moral example. No morality is not defined by what today’s world sees as a moral example. And there is much, much more to that.
regarding inviting another holocaust, that is just rhetoric and drama. To say that if the whole world ignores the uyghurs including us we are somehow going to be looked at as the ones who stood by, well that isn’t even logical. I do understand the point you are trying to make but the statement you made doesn’t hold. There is so much to learn about the Torah view of things from reliable people and places, please don’t count random statements here and there online to count as your knowledge of Hashem’s world.
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so are you really telling me you made those figures up?You literally just made my day!
😉seems you may have missed the first half of it.
At first I was going to say that there is a good chance that your daughters are misrepresenting their teacher’s words, as most children of all ages will do, especially when wanting to plead their case. But after all our conversations here I have seen you take 90% of the things I say and turn them into other things, which i thought was intentional but then came to the conclusion it is how you receive/interpret it. So when you are in defense mode, which you definitely are with those schools, and your child says something in the name of the teacher that you disagree with, no doubt it sounds louder and more aggressive in your ears. You should seriously consider a mediator to hear out what you think the school says and find out from the schools what they really say.
I think that you have displayed a fair amount of skepticism about the lifestyle they were learning about and I would have to question your ability to fairly interpret anything you hear coming from them. I also know that that is a very difficult position for your girls to be in. The catch 22 now is that you have spent all your posting years feigning innocence over all the derogatory comments about the bais yaakov life and system, claiming you don’t even know what I am referring to when I point it out. So now you won’t be able to tell me you held your tongue in front of your girls because that would be an admission that you are actually aware. And trust me, there aint no way they didn’t pick up on it whether you “meant it” or not.
Yserbius – you made a statement that I was trying to understand so I asked you to clarify. You responded with info that didn’t match and now you are saying it isn’t actually the info you were referencing. So seriously, I have no interest in arguing, I was really curious if that was true or if you just meant it loosely to make the point that sem is costly.
AAQ – no offense, and I don’t normally call people out on personal ocurrances, but I just don’t buy it. Many of the stories you have told about your daughters experiences in school are very very VERY hard to believe as true, but this one just doesn’t cut it.
Obviously I can’t say it didn’t happen, but I will tell you that I have had enough bad experiences in many schools across a handful of states and I still would say…. sorry, didn’t happen. I DO believe, based on our many interactions, that you believe it happened. I wish someone else was there who could reframe it for you.“You can go to a local college and sleep at home, pay in-state tuition costs, and get a full 4 year degree for less than half of one year in seminary.”
“one years tuition at Queens College is $18,700”
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at 18.7 a year, 4 years would be $74,000. Which is not half of one year of seminary. I’m assuming there’s a typo in here?GH – Au contraire!!! Mod 29 said that complaints change the status to irritating. If we submit a thread of objections perhaps we can upgrade it to “please don’t approve these”!
I officially submit a seconded motion to Pekaks objection. Please keep pointless threads to a minimum.
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Don’t take it too personally. I didn’t save your copy, I just have the unrefreshed page open 😄😄
You seem a bit defensive about this tho. Just wondering if you need a therapist 😆You must not think it’s too wrong be ause you seem to have deleted it. But don’t worry, I have a copy.
Here’s the problem with your above comment –
1) it isn’t super coherent
2) jokes to break a tense atmosphere is not the same as someone poking a stick in your eye repeatedly and asking why you aren’t laughing.
3) people are entitled to take posts as seriously as they wish. If you don’t like it, walk away. Like in real life. It’s not your job to stop them from conversing just cuz you don’t think it’s important.
3) joking, trolling, and being obnoxious are not synonymous.
4) I don’t get the impression you know much about who is here or why so not sure why the need to speak for them (my opinion)Also, I don’t know anywhere that they can get a degree for less than the cost of seminary (which I think is more like 21k than 30k)