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sw33tMember
I’m not minimizing and I’m not suggesting that she should not get help.
I am expressing how it feels to be in a bad situation and be told “you should/need to do XYZ” as if its just THAT simple.
sw33tMember<3 !!!
People used to say the same things to me all the time:
“why dont you call the police?” ” you have to go to therapy right now !!”
and i remember feeling like “why dont you live 5 minutes in my life, and then go back to telling me what to do!”
You sound like a smart girl with a good head. with time I think you will figure out what you need to do for you.
One thing I do strongly suggest is a mentor figure. In high school I reached out and became close to a Rabbi, and a female teacher. My friends used to joke that they became my “mom and dad”.. I also went out of my comfort zone and would spend time talking with my school social worker. I would speak with her about anything, whether midterms or problems at home. I can say with certainty that these three people are what helped me move forward in life and grow into a well functioning, healthy and happy person.
Best of luck to you.
For what its worth, I am here to listen to whatever you want to post.
sw33tMemberAdams-
have you been in a similar situation???
do you have any idea how difficult it is to do what you’re suggesting???
The shame, embaressment, feelings of betrayal, public acceptance and acknowledgement of your situation, invasion of your privacy, fear of judgement…
sw33tMember<3 …. thinking of you..
sw33tMembermaybe try getting in contact with rabbi horowitz??? He is very familiar with abuse and he may be able to point you in the right direction, and at the very least, give you some supportive words.
sw33tMemberlaugh.
sw33tMemberI relate to these posts so much. it breaks my heart to see that nothing ever changes in this world… morahrach has got to be older then me, and i’m older then you, and we all have the same story.
keep holding on, and remember Hashem loves and cares for you. He is watching over even when it feels like he’s not.
sw33tMemberchocolate is a vital part of a woman’s physical and mental health.
dont be hating.
March 14, 2013 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm in reply to: Interesting Thing That Happened To Me; Is Geography Really That Difficult? #936628sw33tMember“Obama thought there were at least 57 states and now he’s the president. So there you go. “
LOL
sw33tMember13-14 is a lot, no?? I took three while in HS and that gave me 17 college credits, that’s more then a standard semester’s worth.
placing out of the intro classes not only gives you more credits, but it also makes it easier and faster to move onto the classes in your major- ie you waste less time and money.
March 12, 2013 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm in reply to: Want to move from out of town community to New York… #936424sw33tMemberit is expensive, even with roomates. (personal experience)
also, beware of job scams. (there are A LOT out there, specifically in NY)
I agree with everyone who says, try to save up some money first, build a cushion, and then come to new york. I know it sounds awful but its the best way.
March 12, 2013 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm in reply to: People Questioning What Others Wear While Shopping #936056sw33tMemberLove the OP for this…
In my time on this site I have seen posts about:
white shirts, colored shirts, black hats, grey suits, wearing a jacket on the shoulders, women wearing boots, a psychoanalysis of why men wear baseball caps.. and then women wearing heels when shopping.
If you dont like what someone is wearing, dont look.
And I think it only refelcts poorly on the observers.
March 12, 2013 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm in reply to: Interesting Thing That Happened To Me; Is Geography Really That Difficult? #936623sw33tMemberthat’s so embaressing.
As a nation, we should want to present ourselves as knowledgable and educated- not ignorant.
sw33tMemberI wouldnt advise anyone to sell themselves short.
there are plenty of frum mothers, in all fields.
Although some jobs are more “mom friendly” then others, in my experience I’ve seen women who work in say, accounting, who have very healthy and happy home lives, (since due to the nature of their job they have very regular, scheduled hours), then say a nurse, who often work long, tiring shifts.
sw33tMember“yeshivish is no indication of yahadus at all. yeshivish is a way you act, not a way you are.”
astute.
sw33tMemberdrink A LOT of water. 2 liters sounds like a lot but is actually only the daily requirement (eight 8oz servings)having enough fluids drastically changes your appetite. and it releases water weight and makes you look and feel less bloated.
foods that are filling- foods high in protein, and in polyunsaturated fat, ie- nuts, avocado..
perhaps have a protein shake for breakfast? just one scoop of powder with one cup of low fat milk is extremely filling
also try incorporating more fruits and vegetables into your diet.
i read an article recently about how all the diets are about what you have to stop eating, but if you focus on what you add to your diet, instead of what you take, you can end up with better results. I find this true in my life, when i put in effort to add more fruits and veggies, protein, etc instead of focusing on all the things I shouldn’t eat, I see good (and healthy) results.
sw33tMemberbut does washing off the bacon grease make it no longer treif???? real question.
sw33tMemberDoes washing/peeling something make it kosher?
sw33tMember“But the majority of the stores are not, so unless you’re eating it straight out of the carton, you’re likely to be eating something that has been in contact with treifis.”
“Would you really eat a kosher product that sits unwrapped in a non-kosher kitchen, touched by people who are touching non-kosher items?”
When you buy a piece of fruit, how do you know that it has not come into contact with treifis? What if the man who stocks the fruit in the store touched bacon earlier in the day… then what????????
sw33tMemberi don’t diasgree, I would never do it.
but it was awesome being on the receiving end.
sw33tMemberare you sure he’s an alcoholic (alcohol gets in the way of daily functions) versus has a drinking problem (feels a need to get drunk at innapropriate times?)
The two are NOT the same.
Alcoholism is an addiction, which has nothing to do with the act of being drunk, and is a psychological problem that requires an intervention, therapy, AA, Rehab, etc.
Having a drinking problems is also very bad, but the person does not have an uncontrollable addiction, they are physically and psychologicly capable of being sober, they just dont see a reason why they should be. alcoholics are not capable of being sober without getting help.
sw33tMemberthis might be the funniest thread i’ve read here so far…
I equally despise receiving baked goods, annd the bags of candy and chips. mmmh cheap, pareve, sat on the shelf for 6 months, wafers are my favorite..another laffy taffy… yay said no one ever.
everyone should just give each other pizza. or maybe shawarma laffas. burgers??
one year i got one that was three different kind of ice cream and ice cream cones. best purim ever.
sw33tMemberapashutayid: +1
sw33tMemberI have also heard that doughnuts and bagels from any DD are kosher, because they come from the factory. and that they cannot be heated up or cut.
I personally don’t eat them anyway because who needs the carbs, and as other posters have mentioned, at the end of the day you dont really know where it’s been. I generally believe that if it’s something you can live without (and doughnuts sure are) , why take the risk? also causes a problem of maaras ayin.
sw33tMember“working on a fast day is the worst !
Right now I am more useless than hungry “
Yup.
Things that should never be done with a fasting headache: anything involving spreadsheets !!!!!!!
sw33tMember2 on hunger
8 on need for caffeine
working on a fast day is the worst !
February 21, 2013 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm in reply to: Facebook Is To Blame For Rising Orthodox Jewish Divorce Rate? #935174sw33tMemberpurely ridiculous.
no other words.
sw33tMemberi find it funny when people judge first, ask second….
i think it should be fairly obvious that not all jobs require attention every minute of the day, and some have down time where you are free to “kill time” however you please, but you need to remain at your desk.
its shameful how ignorantly people throw around words like “geneiva” without even thinking about what they’re saying…
sw33tMemberHealth said:
“Or the easiest way to buy stuff in DD’s is to stick with the ones with Hechsheirim. Nowadays they have these all over the place. Brooklyn, Teaneck, Highland Park, Lakewood & Balto. are the ones I know about. I’m sure there are many more places too. “
I just have to LOL at that…
“all over the place”
sw33tMemberstory of my life. all day every day.
January 15, 2013 12:47 am at 12:47 am in reply to: Tipping a delivery boy – Mandatory or Optional? #920338sw33tMemberI’m no gemorah scholar but I happen to know there is one that states that if you are travelingto yerushayim for the shelosh regalim, and you are put up in a local residence for the chag, when you leave, you should give the head of the house animal hides as a token of your appreciation.
I know this because when I used to work in a Jewish establishment, this was hanging up on the wall where the workers could see, and quote, to show that it is the right thing to do and very much a jewish concept to tip.
At the end of the day regardless of what you are already spending, or how much you make, you ordered in for a reason, and that’s because you either could not or did not want to go outside and pick it up yourself, so there is a person performing a service on your behalf, the least you can do is spare a dollar or two , no one’s asking you to pay his salary.
It also seems that in life, if you are not generous to others, who will be for you? Its really just a few dollars, probably the same as your morning/afternoon coffee, yet for someone else its a chunk of their earnings, I think its time for a little perspective.
sw33tMemberBut only about 25% of those who were abused turn into abusers. The other 75% all have different symptoms, some get the necessary help and use their abuse as a springboard to improve. Some deny it happened, some turn to addiction. Some turn to prostitution as a way of marginslizing the significants of the traumatic events
I feel like this is a misconception. If most survivors of abuse acted out, became drug addicts, or prostitutes-we’d have a lot more messed up people on our hands. I am not denying that a lot of survivors don’t act out- they do. But for all those people there are even more that just live normal lives- with extra pain.
I think behaviors people would have that would suggest they were abused: trust issues, fear of getting close to others. I would say survivors also tend to be more serious, sensitive, or emotional- tho that definitely is not a rule.
Also- some people live happy, fulfilling lives, and they dont let their abuse rule their lives. I for one never even think about my abuse unless the topic is brought up (and it’s been brought up a lot lately). This does not mean I’m in denial about what happened. It means I deny my past the ability to control my present.
For physical abuse survivors- i think a sure sign is fear of other people yelling, and fear of angry people. (obviously both in an extreme manner that is different then how others would react in the same situation)
sw33tMemberWIY:
wasn’t sure if your comment was real or sarcastic, but. . .
Maybe if the community was not so homogeneous, and so obsessed with blending in, BTs wouldnt “stand out” so much. “There should be a course to teach them how to blend in” .. unfortuantely because the ortho community is so based on societal norms rather then actual torah observance. it is extremely difficult for BTs to catch up on all the little nuances that FFBs are taught from day one. I’m not even BT but I am a child of a BT-convert marriage and I dont think I learned to “blend” until my middle school years (and that’s with attending BY since age 3)
i think its really hurtful to say things like “theyre being so obvious,they stand out. you’re right, they do stand out, but they wish they didnt and they wish they knew how to blend, and people with your attitude only hurt them not help.
Also for the record, I know a few BTs who completely blend in, you really would never know- and they are still discriminated against. That’s just the way it is.
Lastly, in many BT (or convert) cases, the BT is usually giving up their family and most of their friends, and completely turning their lives upside down, have to make new friends and dont have places to go for the holidays or shabbat, and then all anyone does is complain about them not being able to blend in well enough for your liking, or discriminate against them. Its actually kinda sick.
sw33tMemberI want to make a few points:
WIY: great post
Regarding the OP: I do NOT think its ok for a rebbe to show affection with touch. Certainly nothing more then a pat on the shoulder.
As someone who was taken under many teacher’s wings, as well as had regular meetings with social workers and Rabbis during my HS years, I was NEVER touched by any of them, not even a pat on the shoulder. And I was showed a lot of affection.
Instead they were affectionate through their own actions. I believe this is the true way a rebbe or adult can show affection. Touch is superficial. Actions go a lot further. I had one teacher that invited me to eat supper in her home with her family whenever I wanted. One Rabbi who gave me a tehilim with a personalized letter inside. These are actions that I can remember vividly today, and see the impact it had on me. Not a hug or a pat.
Now as for abuse, I strongly believe there is never a reason or excuse for it. I do not believe it makes for better chinuch or discipline.
Just because many great talmidim that were hit turned out alright, does not make it okay! You should look it as “they turned out alright even though they were hit” instead of ” they turned out alright when they were hit, so hitting is okay”
For every child that will not be long term affected by abuse, there is another one whose life will be ruined. And no rebbe or adult can decide which kids can take it and which cannot.
sw33tMembermazal tov middlepath! I never used to post on this site but I have been reading everything for over a year, and I rem posts you wrote- great news! i wish you and your future bride a beautiful life together!
sw33tMemberAurora, Showjoe- Thank you.
Many of you have written to me expressing admiration and respect, which I greatly appreciate, but when it comes down to it, I haven’t done anything in life except been exposed to something terrible, and come out the other end still standing. The real inspiration is all of those who have no reason to care for me or my well being, but you express words of comfort,encouragement and support anyway.
sw33tMember+10,000 to everyone for being supportive, and for your kind words. I am inspired and strengthened by them.
sw33tMemberNechomah- thank you. I actually really like imamother (even tho I’m not a mother ;])
Golfer- your post means a lot to me. Your words are very uplifting. One thing I’ve learned from my experience is that there are no magic words, but just knowing that someone cares, can move mountains.
Yes, writing this post has given me solace. I’m glad you think it’s important for everyone else to read- to me that is the most I could ever ask for.
sw33tMemberZD, OOM,BaalHabooze:
Thank you for your support. When I posted this I thought maybe one or two people would respond and everyone else would ignore and pretend it didn’t exist. Thanks for proving me wrong !
I hope we can all see the change we want in this world, hopefully, that time is soon.
BaalHabooze, your words really mean a lot to me. You nailed it right on the (buried) head.
sw33tMemberZeeskite-
Thank you for “hearing”. It truly means a lot!
I am healing, B”H I have been in a good place for a number of years now.
But there are many who aren’t , and need a supportive community. Everyone here can be a part of that support.
December 11, 2012 5:45 am at 5:45 am in reply to: Why Hasn't YWN Reported The Webberman Trial? #912187sw33tMemberAlso, the other topics of conversation here include whether woman should be allowed to wear boots or not, and why men wear their top button open,but this is what u choose to label as something that shouldnt be discussed in a torah home? i think the priorities of what is befitting of a torah atmosphere is a little messed up !
December 11, 2012 5:37 am at 5:37 am in reply to: Why Hasn't YWN Reported The Webberman Trial? #912186sw33tMemberI have been following these forums for over a year now, and have read some things that have rlly compelled me to make an account and comment on. But every time I was able to stop myself, because I told myself its better to just keep my opinions to myself. Well, this I just had to comment on.
“So naturally they filter what’s newsworthy to this Hallowed site. No. Words of such a nature should not be commonplace, should not be the the topic of discussion in a Torah home. ???? ?’ ?? ???? because of ?? ???? ???? ????, we have different topics of discussions.”
I find it really interesting that the conviction of a religious man on 59 counts of abuse, molestation, endangerment etc, is something u describe as not newsworthy. If the topic cannot be discussed in a Torah home, where will it be discussed? No where. Victims will continue to live in silence and in pain. You are right words of these things should not be commonplace, but unfortunately they are, and pretending it doesnt exist isnt going to make it go away.
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