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Does Religious Zionism have a basis in our perfect and holy Torah?

Please consider these facts:

If I remember correctly, The Mishnah contains 60 tractates or mesechtas.

Approximately half (50%) of those tractates apply ONLY in Eretz Yisrael,
including: almost all of Seder Zeraim, almost all of Kedoshim,
and almost all of Seder Taharot.

Even the tractates that apply outside of Eretz Yisrael, mention Eretz Yisrael many times.

These are the tractates from Seder Zeraim that apply ONLY in Eretz Yisrael:
Peah, Demai, Kilayim, Sheviit, Terumot, Maaserot, Maasser Sheni, Challah, Orlah and Bikurim.

These are the tractates from Seder Kedoshim that apply ONLY in Eretz Yisrael:
Zevachim, Menachot, Bechorot, Arachin, Temirah, Keritot, Meilah, Tamid, Midot, Kinim.

If you understand what I said in this message,
then you are one step closer to understanding Religious Zionism.

If you understand what I said in this message,
then you are one step closer to understanding that
Religious Zionism is NOT Avodah Zarah or Kefirah.
On the contrary, is is ANTI-Zionism which is Avodah Zarah and Kefirah!

PS: I never wanted to accuse the anti-Zionists of Avodah Zarah and Kefirah,
but they forced me into it, by constantly and relentlessly
making false accusations against Religious Zionism,
which is the true Derech HaTorah of Moshe Rabbeinu
and Yehoshua his student, and all the Rabbis of the Mishnah.

ZSK, thanks for the tip. I believe that I found the article.

Question for Anti-Zionists
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What was the FIRST MITZVAH that G*D gave to Avraham Avinu?

It was not Shabbos.
It was not Kashrus.
It was not Tefillin
It was not Tzitsis.
It was not Korbanos [sacrifices].
It was not Davening [Tefillah].
It was not Shmiras HaEinayim.
It was not Shmiras HaLashon.
It was not Tznius.
It was not Mezuzah.
It was not Tzedakah.

All of these things are obviously very important,
but none of them were the FIRST MITZVAH
that G*D gave to Avraham Avinu.

The FIRST MITZVAH that G*D gave to Avraham Avinu
was making aliyah, by moving to Eretz Yisrael.

From this, we see that Religious Zionism has a basis in THE TORAH.

There are many other proofs that I could bring,
but for the sake of simplicity and brevity,
I will only mention this one proof, for now.

PS: This concept was mentioned in the past,
in this Coffee Room, but HaKatan just ignored it.

My local Orthodox synagogue has been reciting AVINU MALKEINU
every day, since the Muslim Jihadists committed their genocidal
rape-massacre against Jewish children and babies on 2025 October 7.

This is more than 500 days of AVINU MALKEINU.

Does anyone else attend a local Orthodox synagogue that
has recited AVINU MALKEINU every day, since 2025 October 7?

Every member of the Neturei Karta is a LUNATIC.

Every member of the Neturei Karta is a MOSAIR.

Every member of the Neturei Karta is a RODAIF.

Every member of the Neturei Karta is a TRAITOR against all Jews and THE ENTIRE TORAH.

Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ally of Amalekites who want ALL JEWS [100%] DEAD.

Every member of the Neturei Karta is Zoche Gehinom.

Religious Zionists are righteous Jews, who only eat kosher food,
who recite berachot before and after eating food,
who observe Shabbat with kiddush and havdalah and 3 meals,
who observe tzitis, talis, tefillin and mezuzah,
who pray with an Orthodox minyan 3 times every day,
who use only Orthodox Rabbis for marriage and divorce,
and send their children only to Orthodox yeshivahs.

Anyone who says that they are idol-worshippers
is guilty of MOTZI SHEM RA, which is a gigantic sin,
even against just one person, how much more so
against a community with many thousands of members.

Last but not least, the Religious Zionist Rabbis have
much greater Torah wisdom than Satmar and Neturei Karta.

My Thoughts After 500 Days without Music
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After 500 days without music. my memories of
the music that I used to listen to are fading.

Recently, I was considering to listening to music again,
but recent tragedies, such as the brutal satanic
murder of a mother and her 4-year-old child
and her one-year-old child, pushed that idea away.

The severe troubles of our brothers and sisters
in our Holy Land are far from over,
so my no-music lifestyle continues.

Hundreds of our best young men —
(and the soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces
ARE certainly among our best young men,
whether you admit it, or not) — have been
killed long before they could get white hairs,
and their innocent wives and children
have become widows and orphans.

What troubles me the most are the thousands
of soldiers with permanent injuries and disabilities.

These men have made devastating sacrifices
to protect our people and our land, and the
Chareidim just call them “idol worshippers”.

This displays a super-massive lack of gratitude,
that would make the Gentiles shocked and
astonished and flabbergasted, if they knew about it.

It is very fortunate that the Gentiles to not know
about the super-massive lack of gratitude that
the Chareidim have towards the Jewish soldiers,
because if they knew, it would be a gigantic
Chillul HaShem that would outweigh *** ALL ***
of the good deeds done by the Chareidim.

HaKatan said:

As the Brisker Rav noted explicitly, its “State” is a violation of the entire Torah.
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MY RESPONSE:

Can you PROVE that the Brisker Rav said that, by giving us an accurate and verifiable source?

Even if the Brisker Rav did say that, “The Brisker Rav”, Rabbi Yitzchok Zev HaLevi Soloveitchik,
died in year 1959 of the Common Era. This means he died 65 years ago.

If you read HaKatan’s arguments carefully, you will see that
his arguments are based on Gedolim from the 1940s and 1950s.
Two examples:

[1] Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman died in 1941 CE.
This was 7 years before the modern State of Israel.

[2] The Satmar Rebbe published VaYoel Moshe,
his book which strongly attacks Zionism, in year 1958 CE.

The current secular year is 2025 of the Common Era.

In our year, Zionism is not what it was in the 1950s,
because Zionists are not what they were in the 1950s.

For example, many Secular Jews in Israel consider themselves
to be “Post-Zionist”, which means they are no longer Zionist.

Last but not least, HaKatan still stubbornly fails to admit that
Religious Zionism is very different from Secular Zionism.

The Steipler Rav, in Karyane DeIgrata, Volume 1,
clearly says the belief in the secular medina as
Atchalta DeGeulah, while a big mistake, is NOT kefirah.

PS: If I remember correctly, “Atchalta DeGeulah” means
“the beginning of the redemption”.

PS: Watch carefully as HaKatan ignores this devastating refutation
of his mistaken beliefs. Other than me, who believes that HaKatan
ignores or misinterprets comments that refute his harmful beliefs?

SOME RELEVANT DATES FOR THIS DISCUSSION
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1941 CE Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman died.
This was 7 years before the modern State of Israel.

1948 CE Founding of the modern State of Israel.

1948 CE Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz recited the brachah
HaTov VeHaMeitiv, in response to
the founding of modern State of Israel.

1948 CE When several Roshei Yeshivah taunted
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz for having recited that berachah,
he turned to Rabbi Aharon Kotler, who agreed with him that
the U. N. resolution [to establish a Jewish State in Eretz Yisrael
in year 1948 CE] was indeed worthy of the blessing.

NOTE: Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz was the founder of
Torah U’Mesorah and became principal of Yeshiva Torah Vodaas
in year 1921 CE. His career in Yeshiva Torah Vodaas lasted 25 years.

NOTE: Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz was known as
“the premier architect of Torah in American history.”

1958 CE The Satmar Rebbe publishes his book,
VaYoel Moshe, which strongly attacks Zionism.
(Or maybe it was 1961 CE.)

Ten or more years before, Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz
claimed that he could refute all of the Satmar Rebbe’s arguments:

“I could have answered him [the Satmar Rav] Chazal for Chazal,
Midrash for Midrash, but I did not want to incur his wrath,
for he is a great man and a tzaddik.”

1967 CE The Six Day war results in Jews capturing Jerusalem
and the Kotel. This inspires an international Baal Teshuvah
movement that lasts for half-a-century.

For the first time in many centuries, Jews enjoy free access to The Kotel.

2024 CE The Israeli Army established the Chashmonaim Bridage,
an army unit that is specifically designed to accommodate
all requirements of the Chareidi lifestyle.

Yechiell, please explain to us why *** ALL ***
of these people quit the Democratic Party:

President Ronald Reagan

President Donald Trump

Senator Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona

Representative Tulsi Gabbard

Representative Tricia Cotham

Mia McLeod (South Carolina State Senator)

Elon Musk (owner of SpaceX and Twitter)

Joe Rogan (podcaster, comedian, actor, television host)

Andrew Yang (lawyer, author, businessman, political candidate)

Nicole Shanahan (lawyer and philanthropist)

Allison Huynh (former Obama fundraiser)

Alan Dershowitz (Harvard Law School Professor)

Mr. Shabbos Kestenbaum (recent Harvard graduate)

Miss Elizabeth Pipko (founder of JExodus = Jewish Exodus movement)

Yechiell, I do not believe one word you say.

Even if the American Medical Association (AMA)
really did approve of transgender surgery,
that just proves that they are corrupt people
who only care about money and play political games.

The neo-Marxists are expert at taking control of
major institutions, including: almost the entire academic world,
almost the entire news media, almost the entire Democrat Party,
almost the entire Hollywood entertainment industry,
almost the entire advertising industry, large churches,
almost all of social media, non-profit organizations,
fact-checkers, book publishers, museum, the fashion industry, etc.

So the American Medical Association is jus another
major institution that was taken control of by the neo-Marxists.

The neo-Marxists “cancel” anyone who disagrees with them,
by destroying the lives of anyone who disagrees with them,
and very few people have the ability to fight them.
So they take-over institution after institution after institution.

The neo-Marxists hate Donald Trump and Elon Musk,
and attack them with lies, because those two men
are among the very few who can fight against them.

If you want to know “Why Jews are Quitting the Democratic Party”,
then go to www (dot) YouTube (dot) com and search for:

“Charlie Kirk Is VISIBLY STUNNED as Jew EXPOSES the Democratic Party”.

Kamala Harris originally wanted to pick Josh Shapiro
to be her Vice President. but rejected him ONLY because he is a Jew,

She wanted the votes of Muslim Jew-haters in Michigan.
She feared that Josh Shapiro would cause her to lose
those precious Muslim Jew-hater votes.

FACT: Rabbi Elchonon_Wasserman died in 1941 of the Common Era.

FACT: The State of Israel was founded in year 1948 of the Common Era.

CONCLUSION: Rabbi Elchonon_Wasserman NEVER SAW the State of Israel.

He never saw the miraculous victory of the 1967 CE “Six Day War”,
that started a Baal Teshuvah movement that lasted half-a-century.

He never saw the formation of Halachic units of the Israeli Army,
like the Nachal Chareidi and the newly-formed Chashmonaim Brigade.

FACT: Zionism today is NOT same as Zionism from the 1920s or the 1950s.
It is certainly not the same as Religious Zionism.

FACT: HaKatan will NEVER LISTEN to what I just said.
Instead, he will continue to express his outdated anti-Zionist nonsense,
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Why? Because one of the differences between a sane person,
and an insane person, is that an insane person does not know’
when to stop. HaKatan does not know when to stop.

HaKatan said:

“There is zero source for Zionism in the Torah, as mentioned.”

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MY RESPONSE:

Babylonian Talmud, tractate Ketubot, page 110B:

“Our Rabbis taught:

A man should always reside in the Land of Israel,
even in a city whose majority is idol-worshippers,
and do not dwell outside the Land of Israel,
even in a city whose majority is Jewish,
because those who dwell in the land of Israel
are as if they have a G*D; and those who
dwell outside the land are as if they have no G*D.”

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Rabbi Yerachmiel of Kozhnitz:

“Thank G_D, I am not jealous of a single soul,
except those Jews who have been able to go to Eretz Yisrael.”

NOTE: Rabbi Yerachmiel of Kozhnitz was the 6th Kozhnitzer Rebbe, who died 13 Elul 1909 CE.

SOURCE: Something to Say (page 98) by Rabbi Dovid Goldwasser, year 1998 CE

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Hakhel Community Awareness Bulletin for Erev Tisha BeAv 2006:

“We have been in exile far too long,
and the longer we are here, he worse off we are.

Exile does not get better with age like a fine wine;
it becomes rancid like a container of open milk on a hot summer day.”

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Rabbi Shmuel Dishon (speaking at a Hakhel lecture):

The greatest Chillul HaShem in the world today is that we are still in exile.

SOURCE: 5768 Av 5 Hakhel Email Community Awareness Bulletin 2008/08/06

HaKatan said:

“There is zero source for Zionism in the Torah, as mentioned.”

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MY RESPONSE:

What was the FIRST commandment that G*D gave to Avraham Avinu?

It was not kashruth, is was not Shabbos and it was not davening.

The FIRST commandment that G*D gave to Avraham Avinu
was leaving the place where he was born,
and MOVING TO ERETZ YISRAEL.

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Moshe Rabbeinu, in his final days, begged G*D,
many times, to be permitted to enter Eretz Yisrael.

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The 6th book of Tanach — Sefer Yehoshua — is mostly about
the Jewish conquest of Eretz Yisrael, as G*D commanded them.

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Ben Zion Sobel, the Feldheim translator of the Concise Book of Mitzvot
(written by the Chafetz Chaim) has added an appendix with the
commandments which can only be done in the land of Israel.

He writes that he did this after consulting with the Steipler Gaon
(Rabbi Yaakov Yisrael Kanievsky) based on a 1968 list from Torah Vodaath.

He counts 26 commandments which can only be done
in the land of Israel, in our times.

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Our Sages (tractate Avot, chapter 4, paragraph 22) teach us that:

“one hour of repentance and good deeds in this world
is better than the entire World-to-Come.”

Rabbi Moshe Sofer (born in 1762 CE & died in 1839 CE) taught this:

“This statement refers only to the Land of Israel, but not to unclean lands.”

SOURCE: The Chasam Sofer (chapter 32, page 227) by Yaakov Dovid Shulman,
year 1992 CE, C.I.S. Publishers, Lakewood, New Jersey (732) 905-3000
ISBN (soft cover): 1-56062-118-4.

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Rabbi Nachman of Breslov said this in
Sefer HaMidot, chapter mamon [money], paragraph 33:

Donating maaser only helps a Jew to become wealthy in the Land of Israel.

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There are many more Torah sources I could quote,
but I do not have enough patience to list them now.

YWN World Headquarters – NYC said this:

“As President Joe Biden approaches the end of his term, his administration is coming under fire for policies that punish Israel while easing restrictions on Hamas and Hezbollah.
The president, once vocal in his support of Israel after the October 7 [2023] massacre, now appears to be bending to anti-Israel pressures within his own party.”

“The controversy intensified last week when the Biden administration reversed a 2022 Treasury Department decision that barred the U.S.-based Foundation for Global Political Exchange from hosting Hamas and Hezbollah representatives at a Beirut conference. The sudden approval has drawn outrage, with critics accusing Biden of capitulating to Iran-backed terror groups.”

“Simultaneously, Biden has introduced Executive Order 14115, which establishes a sanctions program targeting individuals accused of threatening the West Bank’s “peace, security, and stability.” While ostensibly neutral, the sanctions have overwhelmingly targeted Israeli Jews, including settlers accused of minor property crimes or vandalism. Palestinian terrorist groups, meanwhile, have largely escaped sanction under existing U.S. terrorism laws, save for a token inclusion of the Lions’ Den terror group.”

“The Biden administration’s sanctions process has drawn criticism for relying on information from sources like DAWN MENA, a nonprofit linked to the Muslim Brotherhood and known for its anti-Israel positions. Critics argue the administration is imposing severe penalties, including frozen bank accounts and restricted financial access, based on unreliable and biased claims.”

“Sanctions have expanded beyond obscure West Bank farmers to include prominent NGOs and protest organizers. One targeted nonprofit, which defends isolated farms from theft and terror, has been accused without evidence of wrongdoing. Biden’s policies have even inspired similar actions in Canada and Britain, creating what some fear is an international trend of targeting Israel.”

“In a letter to the White House, 88 congressional Democrats demanded sanctions on members of the Israeli government and mainstream NGOs. Critics argue this move would punish individuals for political views and activism, without allegations of violent or illegal acts, further alienating one of America’s closest allies.”

“Observers see Biden’s actions as part of a larger effort to align with the goals of the anti-Israel Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement. By imposing these measures in his final months, Biden risks damaging U.S.-Israel relations and emboldening international efforts to isolate the Jewish state.”

“U.S. citizens have already filed a federal lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Biden’s sanctions. Meanwhile, President-elect Donald Trump has promised to swiftly revoke these measures upon taking office, raising the possibility of using similar sanctions against progressive groups linked to Palestinian terrorism.”

SOURCE: article titled: “Biden’s Lame-Duck Agenda:
Sanctioning Israel While Easing Pressure on Terror Groups”
by YWN World Headquarters – NYC, 2024 November 19