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Once full-scale war broke out after the State of Israel
declared its existence on May 14, 1948 [CE]
Reb Shraga Feivel’s [Mendlowitz] thoughts
were never far from Eretz Yisrael.A group of students saw him outside the Mesivta building
one day, talking excitedly with Rabbi Gedaliah Schorr
and gesticulating rapidly with the newspaper held in his hand.“If I were your age,” he [Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz] told the students,
“I would take a gun and go to Eretz Yisrael.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 26, page 338) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965__________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENT:Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz wanted to take a gun,
so he could fight to defendEretz Yisrael.PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
just because he was the founder of Torah U’Mesorah.PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN To Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
just because he was principal of Yeshiva Torah Vodaas,
and taught there for 25 years.PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
just because he was known as
“the premier architect of Torah in American history.”Harvard Law Professor Alan M. Dershowitz said:
“We need a new term to describe this phenomenon,
this double-standard, this super-scrutiny of things Jewish,
this [relentless & never-ending] singling out of Israel.”SOURCE: Chutzpah by Alan M. Dershowitz
(chapter 4, page 121) published in year 1991 by Little Brown & Co
ISBN: 9780316181372 * ISBN: 0316181374__________________________________________
Harvard Law Professor Alan M. Dershowitz said:“There is yet a third strain of the current virus of anti-Semitism,
this one even more difficult to diagnose.Its danger lies in its subtlety, its pervasiveness,
and its acceptability at all levels of our society.This is a phenomenon familiar to all of us,
yet difficult to articulate and expose:
the [relentless & never-ending] singling out of
Jewish institutions and especially Israel for special scrutiny,
and the application of a double-standard to Jewish things and persons.This phenomenon, which currently has no accepted name,
assumes a variety of forms, but its most obvious
manifestation is the special and often gloating attention
paid by the media, [and] by intellectuals,
and by the government to any deviation by Israel,
no matter how trivial, from the highest norms
of humans rights, civility, and sacrifice.Though Israel may be deserving of criticism,
what is missing is the comparable criticism
of equal or greater violations by other countries and other groups.This constant, often legitimate criticism of Israel
for every one of its deviations, when coupled with
the absence of legitimate criticism of others,
creates the impression currently prevalent on
university campuses and in the press that Israel
is among the worst rights violators in the world.We have all heard that phrase repeated many times.
It is not true, but if it is repeated often enough,
it takes on a reality of its own.”SOURCE: Chutzpah by Alan M. Dershowitz
(chapter 4, page 119) published year 1991 by Little Brown & Co
ISBN: 9780316181372 * ISBN: 0316181374Chaim87 said something like this,
on 2025 September 11 at 5:06 PM,
in a discussion named: “Going OTD in the IDF”:
__________________________________________Some myths need to be dispelled:
Zionism is not shmad or off-the-derech.
Its a machlokos and dependent on Shokul HaDas,
as to who your Rav or Daas Torah is.
__________________________________________
Rabbi Avraham Yitzchak HaKohen Kook ZTL ZYA was big tzadik.Rabbi Isser Zalman was maspid him,
and the Chafetz Chaim defended his honor.He was sent by Rabbi Elchanon’s own brother-in-law,
who was the gadol at the time Rabbi Chaim Ozer to America,
to represent the holy Rav (together with the Ohr Somayach).These are facts and there are pictures of the historic visit.
Not only was Rabbi Avraham Yitzchak HaKohen Kook
a huge tzadik, but so was Rabbi Herzog ZTL.Does anyone know how much he ran around
trying to save Jews during the Holocaust?
Listen to Rabbi Berel Wein ZTL talk about
the time Rabbi Herzog spoke about
trying to save Jewish children in monasteries after the war.
The tears he shed as he told everyone to fight for the next generation.
Only a tzadik can do that.__________________________________________
Then we have the holy Rizyna Rabbis,
all who embraced Zionism.
So Zionism is Al-Pi-Torah and has legs.__________________________________________
This story with Rabbi Aron Lieb is likely made up or exaggerated.
Rabbi Shteinman started Nachal Charedi and Vadas Tal.Everyone knows he supported the [Israeli] Army at least
for those not holding by going to yeshiva.
You can’t make up a shita from one isolated story that likely never happened!__________________________________________
There is an issue with secularism.As others pointed out its a case by case basis.
What unit does the army-joiner join?
Was he using the army as an exit strategy but off before hand?The big issue with Rabbi Shteinman’s comprise of Nachal Charedi
was that it was established for weaker boys,
which means from the get-go, you are doomed.
A system like Hesder Yeshivahs where there are
a lot of good boys could only elevate the others.Chaim87, what you said is very true.
But the radical, fanatical, hateful anti-Zionists,
like HaKatan and UJM, will NEVER LISTEN.They just repeat the same arguments endlessly,
even though they have been refuted many times.But continue to speak anyway, for the benefit of
the people who silently read these messages.Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman died in year 1941 of the Common Era.
He never saw the modern State of Israel, which started in 1948 CE.
Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman died in year 1941 of the Common Era.
He never saw the modern State of Israel, which started in 1948 CE.
Yankel Berel said:
“FYI. Steipler writes clearly, black on white, in Karyane De’igreta, volume 1,
that it is assur to say lashon hara about Dati Leumi Yehudim,
even if they [mistakenly] believe that the state is the forerunner of our ge’oula.They are not ‘begeder yatsa miklal amitecha’
and are to be considered our brother in all halachik respects.”__________________________________________
MY RESPONSE:Thank you very much for your erudite quote.
When you are able to, please give us a more exact source:
chapter number, paragraph number, page number.I thank you very much in advance.
Yankel Berel, you can thank UJM, if you want to.
But I will *** NEVER *** thank UJM, because
he publicly referred to Israel as “The Fourth Reich”.Those are the words of a Rasha Gamur,
who is also a meshuganah gamur, and a
Baal Motzi Shem Ra and a rodaif and a mosair.Over the past 50 years, Charedim have completely rejected
every compromise solution to the Israeli Draft Crisis.Somehow that fact is NEVER MENTIONED
by radical anti-Zionist fanatics like UJM & HaKatan.That fact does not fit into their narrative,
so they conveniently forget about it.Harvard Law Professor Alan M. Dershowitz said:
“Why is Israel singled out for super-scrutiny and double-standard criticism,
expected to maintain a level of moral behavior not demanded of anyone else?”SOURCE: Chutzpah by Alan M. Dershowitz
(introduction chapter, page 4) published in year 1991 CE
by Little Brown & Co * ISBN: 9780316181372 * ISBN: 0316181374__________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENT:Israel is the *** ONLY *** nation that is required
to fight its genocidal enemies in a way that produces
ZERO civilian casualties, even when Israel’s enemies
constantly use civilians as “Human Shields”.Israel is the *** ONLY *** nation that is required
to FEED its genocidal enemies, even when
the leaders of their genocidal enemies constantly
*** STEAL *** the food, as soon as it is delivered!I agree with “Coffee Addict”.
ZSK, most people do not know the meaning of the word “hagiography”.
This is the definition of hagiography:
[1] The writing of the lives of saints.
[2] A biography of a saint.
[3] The writing of an admiring or idealized biography.Chareidim are NOT INTERESTED in constructing new buildings with their own hands.
Chareidim are NOT INTERESTED in harvesting crops with their own hands.
Chareidim are NOT INTERESTED in working as Air Traffic Controllers.
Who will do those jobs, in a country that is 100% Chareidim?
In the early 1800s of the Common Era, all nurses were men.
Then women entered nursing, and their numbers increased
until men vanished from the nursing profession.If you watch carefully, there is a repeated pattern of
women entering male professions, and then increasing
until all of the men are pushed out of that profession.Rabbi Lazer Brody has publicly stated that
the root cause of most mental health issues
is the lack of emunah and bitachon.If you truly trust in HaShem at all times,
and always believe “Gam Zu LeTovah”,
then much of your anxiety and unhappiness
should vanish.Another root cause of most mental health issues
is spending too much time remembering the past
and spending too much time thinking about the future.Fanatical anti-Zionists are De Facto allies of:
Hamas & Hezbollah & Iran’s Ayatollahs & Zohran Mamdami,
yemach shemam vezichram.Anti-Zionist fanatics like UJM & HaKatan are
de facto allies of: Hamas, Hezbollah & the Ayatollahs of Iran.ZSK: Excellent comment!
HaKatan said:
“The Zionists were the ones who lobbied governments
against allowing in Jews during the Holocaust.”__________________________________________
MY RESPONSE:Where are the Halachically-valid witnesses to prove that evil accusation?
Who are the kosher & Shomer-Shabbos witnesses who testify to that evil accusation?
Notice how HaKatan attacks “The Zionists” for allegedly
lobbying governments against allowing in Jews during the Holocaust,
yet he *** NEVER **** criticizes Arabs and Muslims for
lobbying governments against allowing in Jews during the Holocaust!Why the unfair double-standard?
Even if Secular Zionists really did lobby governments
against allowing in Jews during the Holocaust (1940s),
how is that the fault of Religious Zionists 80 years later,
who were not even born when the Holocaust happened?Caroline Glick’s articles are always worth reading.
She has her own web site, and www (dot) JNS (dot) org often publishes her articles.
I saw DNA research showing that most Ashkenazim come from a population of 30,000 people.
anon1m0us, The problems associated with a state controlled by Frum Jews include:
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in maintaining roads or bus routes.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in collecting or processing garbage.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in maintaining embassies in foreign countries.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in Air Traffic Control.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in generating and distributing electricity.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in catching and prosecuting shoplifters and car thieves.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in building bridges or collecting tolls.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in purifying and distributing water to all.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in analyzing the performance of government agencies.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in regulating the flow of products in and out of seaports.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in regulating banks or stock brokers or stock exchanges.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in the training, hiring, and payrolling of hospital employees.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in ensuring that workers are treated fairly by employers.
Frum Jews, especially Chareidim, are NOT INTERESTED in defending the people and land from invaders and terrorists.
The only thing they care about — ***** ONLY ***** THING THEY CARE ABOUT — is studying Talmud 100% of the time.
Everything else, they ignore or laugh at.
They even laugh at people who study Tanach, because
ONLY TALMUD counts, and everything else is nonsense to them.Babylonian Talmud, tractate Pesachim, page 112A:
Rabbi Akiva taught his son Rabbi Yehoshua:
…Do not live in a city whose leaders are scholars.(I assume this is because Torah Scholars are not interested in
performing the mundane tasks that are necessary to maintain a city.)תלמוד בבלי מסכת פסחים דף קיב/א
:צוה רבי עקיבא את רבי יהושע בנו
,בני אל תשב בגובהה של עיר ותשנה
.ואל תדור בעיר שראשיה תלמידי חכמיםUJM: No offense intended, sir, but you are THE WORST offender!