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Fanatical anti-Zionists like UJM and HaKatan win debates,
not because they have better facts, and not because
they have better logic, but because they endlessly repeat
the same completely-refuted claims,
until their opponents quit from overwhelming exhaustion.It is emotionally exhausting to debate with people like
UJM and HaKatan, who refuse to admit when their opponents
make a valid point, and endlessly repeat the same claims,
even after those claims have been refuted multiple times
in multiple ways by multiple people.This is what their internal code looks like:
10 Publicly attack Zionists and Zionism at all times.
20 Ignore all statements from non-Charedi Rabbis.
30 Ignore all statements from non-anti-Zionist Rabbis.
40 Ignore all refutations from opponents.
50 Ignore the devastating impact of their own advice.
60 GOTO line 10.Notice that this code repeats endlessly, and very few people
have the time or the patience to deal with endless repetition,
nor are most people able to cope with having their
perfectly valid facts and logic repeatedly ignored.And that is how people UJM and HaKatan win debates:
not with facts, not with logic, but with never-ending
repetition and closed-minded fanaticism.__________________________________________
I have been watching UJM and HaKatan for approximately 2 or 3 years.
During that time, I cannot remember even *** ONE *** time
when they ever criticized Arabs or Muslims or The United Nations
or The New York Times. They criticize Israel *** ONLY ***.Can you understand why I suspect them of being
paid agents of Hamas or Hezbollah or Iran?And I am not joking when I say that.
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Another tactic that UJM and HaKatan use to win debates is
constantly attacking their opponents
by accusing them if being heretics and idol-worshipers.Very few people can tolerate that kind of abuse
for a long time, and they know that.And that is how UJM and HaKatan win debates:
not with facts, not with logic, but with never-ending
personal attacks against people who disagree with them.October 26, 2025 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2463018SQUARE_ROOTParticipantFanatical anti-Zionists like UJM and HaKatan win debates,
not because they have better facts, and not because
they have better logic, but because they endlessly repeat
the same completely-refuted claims,
until their opponents quit from overwhelming exhaustion.It is emotionally exhausting to debate with people like
UJM and HaKatan, who refuse to admit when their opponents
make a valid point, and endlessly repeat the same claims,
even after those claims have been refuted multiple times
in multiple ways by multiple people.This is what their internal code looks like:
10 Publicly attack Zionists and Zionism at all times.
20 Ignore all statements from non-Charedi Rabbis.
30 Ignore all statements from non-anti-Zionist Rabbis.
40 Ignore all refutations from opponents.
50 Ignore the devastating impact of their own advice.
60 GOTO line 10.Notice that this code repeats endlessly, and very few people
have the time or the patience to deal with endless repetition,
nor are most people able to cope with having their
perfectly valid facts and logic repeatedly ignored.And that is how people UJM and HaKatan win debates:
not with facts, not with logic, but with never-ending
repetition and closed-minded fanaticism.__________________________________________
I have been watching UJM and HaKatan for approximately 2 or 3 years.
During that time, I cannot remember even *** ONE *** time
when they ever criticized Arabs or Muslims or The United Nations
or The New York Times. They criticize Israel *** ONLY ***.Can you understand why I suspect them of being
paid agents of Hamas or Hezbollah or Iran?And I am not joking when I say that.
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Another tactic that UJM and HaKatan use to win debates is
constantly attacking their opponents
by accusing them if being heretics and idol-worshipers.Very few people can tolerate that kind of abuse
for a long time, and they know that.And that is how UJM and HaKatan win debates:
not with facts, not with logic, but with never-ending
personal attacks against people who disagree with them.October 26, 2025 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm in reply to: 770: A Mikdash or a Madhouse? Rabbonim Must Act Now #2463017SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWhen will the Moetzes Gedolei Torah publicly condemn Chabad / Lubavich for their false-mashiach nonsense?
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantBOTTOM LINE: Most NYC voters will be CONFUSED by “Ranked Choice Voting”.
October 23, 2025 3:43 pm at 3:43 pm in reply to: Why Jews are Quitting the Democratic Party #2462682SQUARE_ROOTParticipantSince President Donald Trump was re-elected for his 2nd term,
the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has uncovered
$214 BILLION DOLLARS in wasteful government spending,
which amount to $1,329 foe each taxpayer.If the Democrats would have succeeded, then none of this wasteful
government spending would have ever been discovered.
Instead, it would have increased.According to a recent Quinnipiac Poll made on 2025 October 16,
the Democrats have a national approval rating of 26%
and a disapproval rating of 67%.The disapproval rating of the Democrats is 41% higher than their approval rating!!
WOW!! They deserve it, because they are more wicked than Sodom and Gomorrah!!
A few days ago, the entire Editorial Board of The Washington Post
delivered a scathing rebuke to the Democratic Party,
because of the recent federal government shut-down.
This is amazing, when you consider that The Washington Post
is a leftist publication, that always tries to help the Democratic Party
and always tries to harm the Republican Party.This is because the Democratic Party shut-down the federal government
to protect multi-BILLION-dollar subsidies to ILLEGAL ALIENS.A few days ago, Councilman David W. Kupferschmid of Alpine, New Jersey,
quit the Democratic Party and became a Republican.According to a recent study, the number of people quitting
the Democratic Party to became Republicans is 4 TIMES GREATER
than the number of people quitting the Republican Party to become Democrats.October 22, 2025 10:01 am at 10:01 am in reply to: Plan B – An Open Letter to Ultra Orthodox Community Leaders #2461713SQUARE_ROOTParticipantEvalimoshavlo said:
“Yes, I am suggesting preparing American Jewry for mass Aliyah…”
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MY RESPONSE:That is EXACTLY what Rabbi Meir Kahane [ZTL ZYA HYD] said,
in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, until the day he died.Back then, people ignored his warnings or laughed at him,
especially the Liberals, Leftists and Charedim.After all these years, you finally admit that: KAHANE WAS RIGHT!!!
October 22, 2025 9:46 am at 9:46 am in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2461694SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThe Chazon Ish described Neturei Karta as:
“Jews from before Matan Torah,“
by which he meant that their zeal was NOT shaped by the ways of the Torah.SOURCE: Torah Tavlin, 2009 July 11, Parshat Pinchas
October 22, 2025 9:46 am at 9:46 am in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2461693SQUARE_ROOTParticipantfor user176:
UJM’s unwillingness to acknowledge that there are other opinions is worse than shameful.
It is also very dangerous, and has the potential to cause a Jewish Civil War,
with Jews shooting at each other, and intentionally murdering each other.It also has the potential to cause another HOLOCAUST,
this time in Eretz Yisrael, by dismantling the world’s
only Jewish state and only Jewish army.That makes UJM a very big RODAIF and a very big MOSAIR.
I do not use those words for dramatic effect; I mean them with all of my heart.
Over the past 45 years, I cannot remember calling even one person
a rodaif or a mosair, except for UJM and HaKatan and the Neturei Karta.October 21, 2025 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2461142SQUARE_ROOTParticipantBefore this discussion proceeds any further,
it would be very appropriate
if someone could give us all the exact name
of the sefer that UJM is quoting from
— and also the chapter name or chapter number,
and also paragraph number and/or page number.And also the name of the author of the sefer and
the year in which the sefer was written.If a specific letter or responsa is being quoted,
then we should know the year when that letter or responsa was written.http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/rabbi-shraga-feivel-mendlowitz-vs-satmar-rebbe
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/rabbi-moshe-sherer-and-the-modern-state-of-israel
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWhen was Mishpacha magazine banned by the Chareidi Gedolim?
Which Chareidi Gedolim banned Mishpacha magazine?
October 17, 2025 2:21 pm at 2:21 pm in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2460213SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWhen did the Steipler Gaon approve of the Neturei Karta
attending the Iran-sponsored Holocaust Denial Conference?October 17, 2025 2:21 pm at 2:21 pm in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2460212SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWhen did the Steipler Gaon approve of the Neturei Karta
attending the Iran-sponsored Holocaust Denyial Conference?October 17, 2025 10:07 am at 10:07 am in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2460013SQUARE_ROOTParticipantNeturei Karta was different when the Steipler Gaon [ZTL ZYA]
was alive, so you cannot bring a proof from this.Just a few years ago, the Neturei Karta marched
with Muslim-terrorist-sympathizers, on Shabbos.
That story was reported by Yeshiva World News,
on this web site; I remember it.When did the Steipler Gaon approve of the Neturei Karta
marching with Muslim-terrorist-sympathizers, on Shabbos?When did the Steipler Gaon approve of the Neturei Karta
meeting with the Prime Minister of Iran?I want to say more about this topic, but for the sake of simplicity,
I will end my comment here, for now.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantNo offense intended, but I find it difficult to believe that Mishpacha magazine
wrote an article suggesting that Zohran Mamdani is not so bad.Mishpacha magazine cannot be that stupid.
Mishpacha magazine cannot be that wicked.There are so many serious problems with Zohran Mamdani and his policies,
that I do not have the time or the patience to list even half of them.Suffice to say that his sympathies are 100% with the
so-called “Palestinians” (phoney-stinians) and Hamas.Suffice to say that his economic policies have a proven
record of total failure in other cities and other nations.October 16, 2025 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm in reply to: Bli Neder no music until all hostages are free #2459051SQUARE_ROOTParticipantMy Thoughts After Two Years without Music
=============================Even if all of the hostages were freed today,
what about the many hostages who were murdered in captivity?
Including BABIES who were murdered in captivity?Even if all of the hostages were freed today,
what about more than 900 of our precious holy soldiers
who died fighting the wicked genocidal Muslim terrorists?Even if all of the hostages were freed today,
what about the many precious holy soldiers
who suffer from permanent injuries and disabilities that will NEVER heal?Even if all of the hostages were freed today,
what about the many wives and children of our precious holy soldiers,
who are now widows and orphans?__________________________________________
After two years without music, my thoughts have not been so clear
since my childhood. When I say clear thoughts, this means that
my mind is almost-never interrupted by random memories
of the music that I used to listen to, and even when
those musical memories happen, they quickly fade.Lehavdil, it is like being able to watch television
without any unwanted interruptions from commercials.
(I stopped watching television more than 30 years ago.)__________________________________________
Dear Matzav Inbox,I write this with great trepidation, as I am not one who is capable
of sizing up an entire klal, yet this tzarah has been
nagging at me for a while now, and I must speak out.We have approximately 100 of our brothers and sisters being held hostage
in dire circumstances, and our response as a klal of Torah Yidden, in my opinion,
has been severely lacking. I am aware that nearly every shul says
one to three kapitlach of Tehillim after each tefilah, and I am sure
these tefillos carry great value to Hashem.However, I believe we as a klal are failing to truly feel the pain
of the hostages and their families. I am sure that many individuals
have taken upon themselves an extra mitzvah or tefilah as a zechus
for their safe return, but I do not see a collective response that is adequate.I used to wonder how I and this generation would have felt and
responded had we been living in America during the Holocaust.
Would we really have felt the pain of the Yidden suffering in Europe?
Would our lives have been any different due to their plight?
I am horrified to say that it appears that after a few weeks,
we would have, by and large, disconnected from their suffering
and continued on with our lives as usual. How can this be?The hostages are undergoing their own Holocaust, Rachmana litzlan.
Can we take two minutes to think about the conditions they are in
— stuck in underground tunnels with no sunlight, little food (if any),
under the control of ruthless animals, and so much worse
for the women and children (may Hashem protect them all)?We know that when tzaros happen, they are a wake-up call from Hashem
to do teshuvah. We know this is the ultimate purpose of the matzav
that Klal Yisroel finds itself in. However, I think we all admit that teshuvah
is very difficult. Perhaps this is why Hashem brought this great tzarah to Klal Yisroel.
Hashem is not asking for our immediate teshuvah.He wants us to cry out to Him in pain for our brothers’ and sisters’ matzav
and beg for their yeshua! This is something that we all should be able to do,
as it only requires a little bit of thought about their dire predicament.Any human being, and certainly any Yid, is capable of connecting to and feeling their pain.
This tze’akah is what led to Hashem’s salvation in Mitzrayim.
Ultimately, this will lead to our teshuvah as well.I understand that seemingly all of the hostages were secular.
Regrettably, this may make it more difficult to connect to their suffering.
However, we must remember that each one has a Yiddishe neshama!
We would be obligated to be mechalel Shabbos for them if their lives were in danger.
These are Hashem’s children!(As an aside, I heard firsthand a recording
of one of the freed female hostages speaking to the mother of
another female hostage who is, nebach, still being held.
She told her that her daughter had taken upon herself to keep
Shabbos even as a hostage and that she refuses to obey the
commands of her captors when they entail chillul Shabbos!
Can we even fathom the level that this baalas teshuvah has reached?)How can we as a klal bring ourselves to feel their pain?
One suggestion is that the gedolim or rabbonim declare a day of fasting,
dare I say, once a month. There would be an atzeres in our shuls the night before,
with divrei hisorerus from a gadol or rav that each shul could connect to,
followed by Tehillim (or the shul could have its own divrei hisorerus and Tehillim).The point is that the klal should be united in crying out to Hashem,
begging Him for a yeshua for the hostages and for the entire
klal from our enemies. I am not asking that we even cut back
on our pleasures and vacations, as this is a lot to ask for many.However, how can we not feel their pain at least once a month for a few hours?
Again, I am not one to give mussar, as I fall short in many areas as well.
However, I feel that Hashem may be demanding more of us
and waiting to hear our cries before He brings their yeshua.Sincerely,
Waiting for Our Collective CrySOURCE: Matzav Inbox: Where Is Our Collective Tzaar?
2024 September 5 at 11:45 am www (dot) matzav (dot) com__________________________________________
FULL DISCLOSURE:I did not write any part of this article.
I do not know who wrote this article.
__________________________________________SQUARE_ROOTParticipantDuring the 4 years that Joe Biden was USA President,
the total amount of new foreign investment in the USA
was less than 1 trillion dollars.During the first 8 months of Donald Trump’s second term as USA President,
the total amount of new foreign investment in the USA is 17 trillion dollars.This means that the speed of new foreign investment in the USA
is approximately 120 times faster under President Donald Trump,
when compared to ex-President Joe Biden.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantunderline & <b>bold?</b>
September 28, 2025 9:16 am at 9:16 am in reply to: Lashon Hara, Rechilus, MS”R against the MO, DL, Conservative, Reform community #2454082SQUARE_ROOTParticipantYankel Berel said:
“FYI. Steipler writes clearly, black on white,
in Karyane De’Igreta, volume 1,
that it is assur to say lashon hara about Dati Leumi Yehudim,
even if they [mistakenly] believe that the state is the forerunner of our ge’oula.They are not ‘begeder yatsa miklal amitecha’
and are to be considered our brother in all halachik respects.”__________________________________________
MY RESPONSE:Thank you very much for your relevant quote.
When you are able to, please give us a more exact source:
chapter number, paragraph number, page number, etc.I thank you very much in advance.
September 28, 2025 9:14 am at 9:14 am in reply to: Why Jews are Quitting the Democratic Party #2454176SQUARE_ROOTParticipantUnder ex-President Joe Biden, more than 7,000 people were
FIRED from the military because they refused to get vaccinated.Soon after, ex-President Joe Biden permitted more than
ten million [10,000,000] unvaccinated ILLEGAL ALIENS
to enter the USA illegally, and used airplanes to distribute them
to all 50 states, at the expense of the unfortunate taxpayers.These airplane flights landed at night, so nobody could
see the millions ILLEGAL ALIENS entering their cities.These millions of ILLEGAL ALIENS were mostly sent to
highly-gerrymandered districts, so the Democratic Party
could get a majority of votes, and undeserved victory in their elections.These millions of ILLEGAL ALIENS were given Driver’s Licenses,
and were given the highest priority to be placed on government
benefits, including: Section-8, SNAP, Social Security, etc, etc.
All of this was done as the expense of the unfortunate taxpayers.These things were not done to help American citizens or
American taxpayers; they were done to guarantee
undeserved victories for the Democratic Party,
and its completely-wicked pro-gay candidates.During the 4 years that Joe Biden was President and
Kamala Harris was Vice-President, around 22 million
[22,000,000] ILLEGAL ALIENS entered the USA,
all unvaccinated, and all without medical examinations,
and all without criminal background investigations.ILLEGAL ALIENS committed many thousands of violent felonies,
including: muggings, home robberies, rapes, murders, assaults,
prostitution, illegal drugs, spying, shoplifting and kidnapping.Many of these ILLEGAL ALIENS are spies for China, or Muslims
who believe that KILLING JEWS (including Jewish children)
is the path the leads to eternal happiness in The Afterlife.All of this was done as the expense of the unfortunate taxpayers.
All of this was done to guarantee undeserved victories for the Democratic Party.A recent poll indicated that the Approval Rating
of the Democratic Party is 32%, which is an all-time low.The Approval Rating of the Democratic Party should be 0%,
but people still like them, because “you can’t fix stupid”.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWhat is (212) 444-1100?
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantIf any non-Jew referred to the State of Israel as “The Fourth Reich”,
that non-Jew would be condemned for anti-Semitism.So what can we say about Jews like UJM who say that in public?
The accepted definition of anti-Semitism includes claiming that Jews are Nazis.
So what can we say about Jews like UJM who publicly say that Israelis are Nazis?
September 22, 2025 1:25 pm at 1:25 pm in reply to: Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky and the modern State of Israel #2452905SQUARE_ROOTParticipantHaKatan said:
“I never intended to make any accusation against any Jew.”
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MY RESPONSE:No offense intended, sir; but if that statement is true,
then you have NOT been sufficiently careful with your words!If I remember correctly, if was YOU who said 2 times (maybe more),
that: “*** ALL *** Mizrachi Jews are idol-worshippers.”September 22, 2025 1:25 pm at 1:25 pm in reply to: How do we know that anti-Zionist posters are Jewish? #2452904SQUARE_ROOTParticipantsomejewiknow said:
“You cannot find even one charedi Gadol who says the
shevios are not haluche, including the Avnei Nezer,”__________________________________________
MY RESPONSE:This false belief has been refuted many times,
right here in the YWN Coffee Room.But you stubbornly refuse to listen.
If I wanted to, I could easily supply facts and logic
to refute your false statement, but I will not do that,
because I know from experience that you NEVER LISTEN!!September 22, 2025 1:24 pm at 1:24 pm in reply to: 770: A Mikdash or a Madhouse? Rabbonim Must Act Now #2452903SQUARE_ROOTParticipantChabad has accepted a False Moshiach and a False Navi.
The name of this False Moshiach and False Navi is Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson.
They cannot be persuaded out of their false beliefs with any facts or logic.
Thousands of useful idiots defend Chabad, because Chabad does Kiruv and Chesed.
They do not understand that we can praise Chabad’s Kiruv and Chesed,
and at the same time, condemn their False Moshiach and their False Navi.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantI am tired of reading the ridiculous messages that “bael teshuva”
writes in this Coffee Room. His messages are low-quality,
and never should have been approved by moderators.I strongly suspect that “bael teshuva” is NOT a real Baal Teshuvah.
I suspect that he falsely uses that name as part of a sick stupid joke,
in which he hopes to make people laugh at real Baalei Teshuvah,
because Baalei Teshuvah are like orphans, who have nobody
to defend them when people laugh at them or ridicule them.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantfor UJM:
Every time you publicly refer to the State of Israel as “The Fourth Reich”,
you strengthen the hands of genocidal Muslim terrorists,
who want to KILL ALL JEWS, including: non-Zionists, anti-Zionists,
old people, pregnant women, cholim, children, infants, and babies.This make you a RODAIF!!!
What is the Olam HaBa of a RODAIF?
What is the Olam HaZeh of a RODAIF?
September 18, 2025 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm in reply to: Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky and the modern State of Israel #2452081SQUARE_ROOTParticipantResponding to HaKatan:
Rabbi Chaim Soloveitchik (also known as Chaim Brisker) died in July 1918 CE.
That was thirty [30] years before the modern State of Israel, which started in 1948 CE.
Concerning those who abandoned the Derech HaTorah and became Secular Zionists,
almost all of them would have abandoned the Derech HaTorah even without Secular Zionism.And almost all Jews who abandoned the Derech HaTorah during their time in the IDF,
they would have abandoned the Derech HaTorah, even without the IDF.__________________________________________
No offense intended, sir, but I noticed many times
that you are very eager to make big accusations against Jews.This is exactly what The Satan does: He is always accusing Jews.
Your never-ending accusations against Jews,
they make you just like The Satan.If you were a true tzadik, you would maximize the severity
of your own sins, while minimizing the sins of other Jews.
This is what was taught by Rabbi Yisroel Salanter ZTL ZYA.September 18, 2025 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm in reply to: Out of Town – Chassidish community options? #2452079SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWhat are the downsides of living Out-Of-Town?
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If you live in New York City, you can find any kind
of Doctor or medical specialist to help you,
even if you have the worst health insurance.If you live in small town, you might not find the Doctor
you need, even if you have the best health insurance.Rabbi Avigdor Miller ZTL ZYA once gave a public lecture,
which I listened to by tape recorder.Concerning those who leave New York City for far-away small towns,
Rabbi Avigdor Miller quoted the verse from Tanach
“those who are far away from You will go lost”,
meaning that they are in danger of falling away from the Derech HaTorah.
(“Rechaikecha Yovaidu” or something similar.)If you want better answers, then you must specify
the name of the city you are thinking of moving to.Maybe send an email to an Orthodox synagogue in that city.
I am just trying to help. I hope this helps you.
September 18, 2025 11:53 am at 11:53 am in reply to: Mochel Loch… time to forgive and be forgiven! #2451585SQUARE_ROOTParticipantDear Ex-CTLawyer,
In the past, you tried to give me helpful advice.
Now I try to return the favor,
by trying to give you helpful advice:We now know that UJM is a real-life friend of yours.
So when he says crazy statements that are:
rodaif, mosair, onaas devarim, and Motzi Shem Ra,
that reflects on YOU also, because YOU are his friend.For your own sake, I advise you to restrain him,
or your reputation will certainly suffer.
I hope that helps you.I wish you good decrees on Rosh HaShanah,
and a very easy fast on Yom Kippur.Sincerely,
SQUARE_ROOTSeptember 18, 2025 11:53 am at 11:53 am in reply to: How do we know that anti-Zionist posters are Jewish? #2451582SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThe fanatical hate-filled anti-Zionists claim to follow the Gedolim,
but they repeatedly chose to IGNORE accurate quotes from:Avnei Nezer, Rabbi Moshe Sherer,
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
Rabbi Avraham Yitzchok HaKohen Kook,
Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky, and others.They only listen to the Gedolim who agree
with their stupid suicidal rodaif beliefs.They are not logical and not sincere.
I suspect that they receive payments from
Hamas or the Ayatollahs of Iran.
They endanger millions of Jewish lives.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThis is what bothers me the most about fundraising:
If you send a donation check to any one Chareidi charity,
within a few weeks or months, you will receive
fundraising requests from dozens of Chareidi charities.Even if you send them a donation check with a note
requesting that you not be placed on any mailing list,
you will still receive fundraising mail from dozens of Chareidi charities.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWhat about thousands of people from Chareidi families
who live in the USA and Canada and the UK,
who go off-the-derech, who never served in the IDF?Is that also the fault of the IDF?
September 17, 2025 5:49 pm at 5:49 pm in reply to: How do we know that anti-Zionist posters are Jewish? #2451341SQUARE_ROOTParticipantUJM said:
The anti-Zionists posters are the *only* Jews.
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MY RESPONSE:No offense intended, sir; but that comment
could only be made by a Rasha Gamur
whose mind is completely filled with hate.I plead with you to do teshuvah, preferably before Rosh HaShanah.
I have retracted a very small number of my comments,
because I was asked to by people in this Coffee Room.If I did it, then you can do it too.
September 17, 2025 5:49 pm at 5:49 pm in reply to: Why am I more upset over Charlie Kirk, then the Ten Keddoshim Murdered? #2451310SQUARE_ROOTParticipantQUESTION:
“Why am I more upset over Charlie Kirk, than the Ten Kedoshim Murdered?”
ANSWER:
Because the murder of Charlie Kirk happened in your lifetime.
The murder of Ten Kedoshim happened around 2,000 years ago.
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantHarvard Law Professor Alan M. Dershowitz said:
“When Jews complain about anti-Semitism or anti-Zionism,
they are often made to feel that they are oversensitive.”SOURCE: Chutzpah by Alan M. Dershowitz
(chapter 3, page 83) published in year 1991 by Little Brown & Co
ISBN: 9780316181372 ISBN: 0316181374__________________________________________
Harvard Law Professor Alan M. Dershowitz said:“But more always seems to be demanded of the Jewish nation
and of the Jewish people than of others.Jews, unlike other groups, are expected to be in the
forefront of defending the rights of their sworn enemies.”SOURCE: Chutzpah by Alan M. Dershowitz
(chapter 5, page 170) published in year 1991 by Little Brown & Co
ISBN: 9780316181372 ISBN: 0316181374September 17, 2025 9:50 am at 9:50 am in reply to: Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky and the modern State of Israel #2450809September 17, 2025 9:50 am at 9:50 am in reply to: Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky and the modern State of Israel #2450814SQUARE_ROOTParticipantHearing his criticisms of Zionism, someone once told him
[Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz],
“I too hate the Zionists. They should be cursed.”“Chas v’chalilah (Heaven forbid)!”
Reb Shraga Feivel [Mendlowitz] interjected.“To the contrary: They should be blessed,
along with all those who are building up our Holy Land.
I only pray that they observe mitzvos.But chalilah to curse or hate them.
They are tinokos shenish’bu
(people who never received a Jewish education and so were led astray).”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 16, page 228) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965__________________________________________
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz was the founder
of Torah U’Mesorah and became principal of
Yeshiva Torah Vodaas in year 1921 CE.His career in Yeshiva Torah Vodaas lasted 25 years.
He was known as
“the premier architect of Torah in American history.”September 17, 2025 9:47 am at 9:47 am in reply to: Tiferes Shlomo and the modern State of Israel #2450806SQUARE_ROOTParticipantfrom the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 13, page 321:“He [Rabbi Moshe Sherer] assured [Prime Minister Yitzhak] Rabin…
that he could always count on Agudath Israel of America
to be strongly supportive of Israel’s security needs.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This is the 1st quote of 5, which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!NOTE: This conversation occurred in, or close to, year 1975 CE.
Yitzhak Rabin was Prime Minister from June 1974 to June 1977 CE.
__________________________________________
from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 15, page 356:“Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer responded at length.
He pointed out that the opposition to religious umbrella groups
did not preclude Jews joining together on issues as
Israel’s security or combating anti-Semitism.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This is the 2nd quote which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!
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from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 545:“Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer’s summary of a confidential
June 17, 1970 [CE] meeting with Israel’s
Ambassador to Washington Yitzchak Rabin
reflects his lifelong approach to Israel’s security needs.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This is the 3rd quote which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!
__________________________________________
from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 546:The offer of political support Rabbi Sherer made
to Yitzchak Rabin was one he would repeat
on many occasions to Israeli leaders.In a 1981 [CE] letter to Israeli Ambassador Ephraim Efron,
for instance, he described Agudath Israel’s grassroots
constituency as a “reservoir of manpower which is
totally committed to the safety and security of Israel.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This is the 4th quote which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!__________________________________________
“Throughout his career Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer strongly
supported the State of Israel and advocated on its behalf.”SOURCE: Wikipedia article titled “Moshe_Sherer”.
PERSONAL COMMENT:
This is the 5th quote which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!__________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENTS:[1] Rabbi Moshe Sherer NEVER said that the State of Israel should be dismantled.
[2] Rabbi Moshe Sherer NEVER said that Religious Zionists were idol-worshippers.
[3] Rabbi Moshe Sherer NEVER marched with terrorists, like the Neturei Karta do.
[4] Rabbi Moshe Sherer NEVER waved the Palestinian Flag, like the Neturei Karta do.
[5] Rabbi Moshe Sherer cared deeply about
the security of Israel, for many years, even though
Israel was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders![6] PLEASE DO NO LISTEN to Rabbi Moshe Sherer,
just because he was very close to many Gedolim
and tzaddikim for approximately half a century.[7] PLEASE DO NO LISTEN to Rabbi Moshe Sherer,
just because he always did what the Gedolim
told him to do, throughout his entire lifetime.September 17, 2025 9:46 am at 9:46 am in reply to: Mochel Loch… time to forgive and be forgiven! #2450659SQUARE_ROOTParticipantOver the past 2 or 3 years, anti-Zionist fanatics
here in the YWN Coffee Room have repeatedly stated
that “ALL Mizrachi Jews are idol-worshippers”.When will the person who made those false
Motzi Shem Ra attacks do teshuvah?Probably never, because lunatics do not do real teshuvah.
And brainwashed fanatics also do not do real teshuvah.When will the people who failed to protest
those false Motzi Shem Ra attacks do teshuvah?September 17, 2025 9:46 am at 9:46 am in reply to: How do we know that anti-Zionist posters are Jewish? #2450651SQUARE_ROOTParticipantOver the past ten years, dozens of Jews in Eretz Yisrael
have been revealed to be paid agents of Iran.According to articles published here on Yeshiva World News
and Matzav (dot) com, many of these paid agents of Iran
have been revealed to be yeshivish Chareidi Jews —-
because that it what happens when yeshivas constantly
teach hate against “the Zionists, who are our enemies”.We cannot ignore the possibility that anti-Zionists
here on YWN are paid agents of Iran.September 15, 2025 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm in reply to: Should Chareidi demonstrators be drafted. #2450181SQUARE_ROOTParticipantOnce full-scale war broke out after the State of Israel
declared its existence on May 14, 1948 [CE]
Reb Shraga Feivel’s [Mendlowitz] thoughts
were never far from Eretz Yisrael.A group of students saw him outside the Mesivta building
one day, talking excitedly with Rabbi Gedaliah Schorr
and gesticulating rapidly with the newspaper held in his hand.“If I were your age,” he [Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz] told the students,
“I would take a gun and go to Eretz Yisrael.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 26, page 338) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965__________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENT:Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz wanted to take a gun,
so he could fight to defendEretz Yisrael.PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
just because he was the founder of Torah U’Mesorah.PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN To Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
just because he was principal of Yeshiva Torah Vodaas,
and taught there for 25 years.PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
just because he was known as
“the premier architect of Torah in American history.”SQUARE_ROOTParticipantHarvard Law Professor Alan M. Dershowitz said:
“We need a new term to describe this phenomenon,
this double-standard, this super-scrutiny of things Jewish,
this [relentless & never-ending] singling out of Israel.”SOURCE: Chutzpah by Alan M. Dershowitz
(chapter 4, page 121) published in year 1991 by Little Brown & Co
ISBN: 9780316181372 * ISBN: 0316181374__________________________________________
Harvard Law Professor Alan M. Dershowitz said:“There is yet a third strain of the current virus of anti-Semitism,
this one even more difficult to diagnose.Its danger lies in its subtlety, its pervasiveness,
and its acceptability at all levels of our society.This is a phenomenon familiar to all of us,
yet difficult to articulate and expose:
the [relentless & never-ending] singling out of
Jewish institutions and especially Israel for special scrutiny,
and the application of a double-standard to Jewish things and persons.This phenomenon, which currently has no accepted name,
assumes a variety of forms, but its most obvious
manifestation is the special and often gloating attention
paid by the media, [and] by intellectuals,
and by the government to any deviation by Israel,
no matter how trivial, from the highest norms
of humans rights, civility, and sacrifice.Though Israel may be deserving of criticism,
what is missing is the comparable criticism
of equal or greater violations by other countries and other groups.This constant, often legitimate criticism of Israel
for every one of its deviations, when coupled with
the absence of legitimate criticism of others,
creates the impression currently prevalent on
university campuses and in the press that Israel
is among the worst rights violators in the world.We have all heard that phrase repeated many times.
It is not true, but if it is repeated often enough,
it takes on a reality of its own.”SOURCE: Chutzpah by Alan M. Dershowitz
(chapter 4, page 119) published year 1991 by Little Brown & Co
ISBN: 9780316181372 * ISBN: 0316181374September 11, 2025 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm in reply to: Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky and the modern State of Israel #2448947SQUARE_ROOTParticipantChaim87 said something like this,
on 2025 September 11 at 5:06 PM,
in a discussion named: “Going OTD in the IDF”:
__________________________________________Some myths need to be dispelled:
Zionism is not shmad or off-the-derech.
Its a machlokos and dependent on Shokul HaDas,
as to who your Rav or Daas Torah is.__________________________________________
Rabbi Avraham Yitzchak HaKohen Kook ZTL ZYA was big tzadik.Rabbi Isser Zalman was maspid him, and the Chafetz Chaim defended his honor.
He was sent by Rabbi Elchanon’s own brother-in-law,
who was the gadol at the time Rabbi Chaim Ozer to America,
to represent the holy Rav (together with the Ohr Somayach).These are facts and there are pictures of the historic visit.
Not only was Rabbi Avraham Yitzchak HaKohen Kook
a huge tzadik, but so was Rabbi Herzog ZTL.Does anyone know how much he ran around trying to save Jews during the Holocaust?
Listen to Rabbi Berel Wein ZTL talk about the time Rabbi Herzog spoke about
trying to save Jewish children in monasteries after the war.
The tears he shed as he told everyone to fight for the next generation.
Only a tzadik can do that.__________________________________________
Then we have the holy Rizyna Rabbis, all who embraced Zionism.
So Zionism is Al-Pi-Torah and has legs.__________________________________________
This story with Rabbi Aron Lieb is likely made up or exaggerated.
Rabbi Shteinman started Nachal Charedi and Vadas Tal.Everyone knows he supported the [Israeli] Army at least
for those not holding by going to yeshiva.
You can’t make up a shita from one isolated story that likely never happened!__________________________________________
There is an issue with secularism.As others pointed out its a case by case basis.
What unit does the army-joiner join?
Was he using the army as an exit strategy but off before hand?The big issue with Rabbi Shteinman’s comprise of Nachal Charedi
was that it was established for weaker boys,
which means from the get-go, you are doomed.
A system like Hesder Yeshivahs where there are
a lot of good boys could only elevate the others.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantChaim87 said something like this,
on 2025 September 11 at 5:06 PM,
in a discussion named: “Going OTD in the IDF”:
__________________________________________Some myths need to be dispelled:
Zionism is not shmad or off-the-derech.
Its a machlokos and dependent on Shokul HaDas,
as to who your Rav or Daas Torah is.
__________________________________________
Rabbi Avraham Yitzchak HaKohen Kook ZTL ZYA was big tzadik.Rabbi Isser Zalman was maspid him,
and the Chafetz Chaim defended his honor.He was sent by Rabbi Elchanon’s own brother-in-law,
who was the gadol at the time Rabbi Chaim Ozer to America,
to represent the holy Rav (together with the Ohr Somayach).These are facts and there are pictures of the historic visit.
Not only was Rabbi Avraham Yitzchak HaKohen Kook
a huge tzadik, but so was Rabbi Herzog ZTL.Does anyone know how much he ran around
trying to save Jews during the Holocaust?
Listen to Rabbi Berel Wein ZTL talk about
the time Rabbi Herzog spoke about
trying to save Jewish children in monasteries after the war.
The tears he shed as he told everyone to fight for the next generation.
Only a tzadik can do that.__________________________________________
Then we have the holy Rizyna Rabbis,
all who embraced Zionism.
So Zionism is Al-Pi-Torah and has legs.__________________________________________
This story with Rabbi Aron Lieb is likely made up or exaggerated.
Rabbi Shteinman started Nachal Charedi and Vadas Tal.Everyone knows he supported the [Israeli] Army at least
for those not holding by going to yeshiva.
You can’t make up a shita from one isolated story that likely never happened!__________________________________________
There is an issue with secularism.As others pointed out its a case by case basis.
What unit does the army-joiner join?
Was he using the army as an exit strategy but off before hand?The big issue with Rabbi Shteinman’s comprise of Nachal Charedi
was that it was established for weaker boys,
which means from the get-go, you are doomed.
A system like Hesder Yeshivahs where there are
a lot of good boys could only elevate the others.September 11, 2025 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm in reply to: Tiferes Shlomo and the modern State of Israel #2448946SQUARE_ROOTParticipantHaKatan said:
“…. the Satmar Rav wrote decades ago, that non-Zionist rule
by a responsible Esav ruler would be far better for Jews…”__________________________________________
MY RESPONSE:How can Jews guarantee that the Esav ruler would be “responsible”?
ANSWER:
We can’t! There is no way to guarantee that the Esav ruler would be “responsible”.The Satmar Rav’s suggestion is nothing more than Wishful Thinking,
that is very unlikely to succeed in the real world.No offense intended, but we cannot endanger millions of Jews,
and our holy places, for the Satmar Rav’s unrealistic fantasy.
Sorry about that!SQUARE_ROOTParticipantChaim87, what you said is very true.
But the radical, fanatical, hateful anti-Zionists,
like HaKatan and UJM, will NEVER LISTEN.They just repeat the same arguments endlessly,
even though they have been refuted many times.But continue to speak anyway, for the benefit of
the people who silently read these messages.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantHarvard Law Professor Alan M. Dershowitz said:
“There is yet a third strain of the current virus of anti-Semitism,
this one even more difficult to diagnose. Its danger lies in its subtlety,
its pervasiveness, and its acceptability at all levels of our society.This is a phenomenon familiar to all of us, yet difficult to
articulate and expose: the singling out of Jewish institutions
and especially Israel for special scrutiny, and the application
of a double-standard to Jewish things and persons.This phenomenon, which currently has no accepted name,
assumes a variety of forms, but its most obvious manifestation
is the special and often gloating attention paid by the media,
[and] by intellectuals, and by the government to any deviation
by Israel, no matter how trivial, from the highest norms
of humans rights, civility, and sacrifice.Though Israel may be deserving of criticism, what is missing
is the comparable criticism of equal or greater violations
by other countries and other groups.This constant, often legitimate criticism of Israel for every one
of its deviations, when coupled with the absence of legitimate criticism
of others, creates the impression currently prevalent on university campuses
and in the press that Israel is among the worst rights violators in the world.We have all heard that phrase repeated many times.
It is not true, but if it is repeated often enough, it takes on a reality of its own.”SOURCE: Chutzpah by Alan M. Dershowitz
(chapter 4, page 119) published year 1991 by Little Brown & Co
ISBN: 9780316181372 * ISBN: 0316181374SQUARE_ROOTParticipantHarvard Law Professor Alan M. Dershowitz said:
“We need a new term to describe this phenomenon,
this double-standard, this super-scrutiny
of things Jewish, this singling out of Israel.”SOURCE: Chutzpah by Alan M. Dershowitz
(chapter 4, page 121) published in year 1991 by Little Brown & Co
ISBN: 9780316181372 * ISBN: 0316181374September 8, 2025 10:53 am at 10:53 am in reply to: Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky and the modern State of Israel #2446751SQUARE_ROOTParticipantRabbi Elchonon Wasserman died in year 1941 of the Common Era.
He never saw the modern State of Israel, which started in 1948 CE.
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantRabbi Elchonon Wasserman died in year 1941 of the Common Era.
He never saw the modern State of Israel, which started in 1948 CE.
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