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AviraDeArah said:

“Of note is that before Zionism,
Jews were able to go to the kosel freely.”
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What you just said is FALSE — it is a rewrite of Jewish History,
custom-tailored to fit your anti-Zionist ideological requirements.

Before the Kotel was liberated by “the Zionists”,
only a small part of the Kotel was accessible for Jewish prayers,
and Jews had to pay money even for that.

During the British Mandate, one Jew was thrown in jail
because he blew a shofar at the Kotel on Rosh HaShanah.

This is not the first time that the anti-Zionists have
created a false Jewish History that is custom-tailored
to fit their anti-Zionist ideological requirements.

The anti-Zionists falsely teach that:
“Before the Zionists, Jews were treated well in Muslim lands.”

That statement is very false, and it has been refuted many times.

But the anti-Zionists still believe it, because it is a falsehood
that is custom-tailored to fit their ideological requirements.

Rabbi Chaim Vital expressed the view that the Three Oaths
were only binding for the first thousand years of Exile,
in his Introduction to Sefer Eitz Chayim.

So far, nobody in this Coffee Room has refuted this,
or even attempted to refute it.

A member of the Haredi community, Rabbi Chaim Walkin,
points out in his book, Daat Chaim, that Rambam
discussed the Three Oaths only in the Epistle to Yemen,
but not in his Halachic work, the Mishnah Torah.

Rabbi Walkin postulates that this is because while Rambam
saw these oaths as important, he did not consider them
to be legally binding as Halachah, only that they serve as
“warnings that these actions would be unsuccessful”.

HaLeiVi: anon1m0us just made a valid point, which you chose to ignore.

For 18 centuries, the land of Israel was a barren desert wasteland,
with very few crops and very few people.

That holy land is now filled with many farms that produce
huge amounts of crops, and millions of people.

Even the Gentiles are amazed by the transformation
of the land of Israel from barren desert wasteland
to highly-productive farmlands.

EVEN THE ARABS are very impressed by the transformation
of the land of Israel from barren desert wasteland to
highly-productive farmlands, and they are jealous of this!

The only people who are not impressed by this modern-day
miracle are: UJM, AviraDeArah, HaKatan, the wicked traitors
of the Neturei Karta, and brainwashed Israel-bashing zealots,
who only see the bad in those Jews
who do not meet their standards for kedushah.

If G*D really held by The Three Oaths, then He would not
have permitted this this modern-day miracle of agriculture.

Rabbi Lazer Brody (from Breslov) said:

“People think they can eat whatever they want on Shabbat because it tastes good….
rich chocolate éclairs or colas and all kinds of chemicals and all kinds of drinks.
Even on Shabbat, you are not allowed to eat things that are detrimental to your body.”

SOURCE: Rabbi Lazer Brody, lecture titled: A Rosy World,
Audio CD number 374 (track 13 of 14), Breslov World dot com,
Mosdot Chut Shel Chessed, P. O. Box 50226 Jerusalem, (972) 52-2240696

In year 1922 of the Common Era, the League of Nations
designated both sides of the Jordan River as a future homeland FOR JEWS.

The British Empire was given a mandate by the League of Nations
to administer and rule that land, until it became a future homeland FOR JEWS.

Since the League of Nations represented almost every nation (at that time)
Jews who return to Eretz Yisrael are NOT REBELLING against the nations,
and the Three Oaths NO LONGER APPLY (assuming that they ever applied at all).

edited – hate filled accusations against people for being hate filled canceled each other out

The anti-Zionists complain that “The Zionists” push Jews away from Torah;
but the anti-Zionists have also done things that push Jews away from Torah.

The author of the “Haflaah” maintains that The Three Oaths apply
ONLY to those who are in the exile of Bavel, and not in other lands.

HaKatan said: “Which poskim rule that they are not halacha?”

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ANSWER: The Three Oaths are an Agadic Midrash,
and therefore they are not Halachically obligatory,
because Agadic Midrashim (as opposed to Halachic Midrashim)
are not traditionally understood as a valid source for Halachah.

Stated simply: Midrashim are not Halachah.

Seven Most Unhealthy Snack Foods:
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candy bars, cheese, granola [especially bars],
muffins, peanuts, potato chips, soda.

SOURCE: Connie Roberts MS, nutrition editor for the Harvard Heart Letter

YWN Moderator said to me:

“Just curious – do you accept these as fact because you read them online?”

MY RESPONSE:

I have read dozens of books about nutrition and health,
and I have taken detailed carefully type-written notes
for ***ALL*** of the nutrition books that I read.

Everything that I said in my previous message can be verified;
not just once, but multiple times, if only you invest the effort
to study many books about nutrition and health, like I did.

The fact that you could even question the very-well-known facts
that I reported in my previous message is an irrefutable proof
that my previous message was desperately needed.

If you live near a public library, then you should
be able to borrow an read nutrition books for free.

you cut and paste clips from books and websites instead of having conversations. I was just wondering if you consider all this valid because you read it online.

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Quick Tips: Which foods are healthier?
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{1} Brown Rice is healthier than White Rice or pasta.
{2} Oats are healthier than Brown Rice.
{3} Black beans are healthier than other beans.
{4} Flounder is healthier than tuna, and salmon is healthier than flounder.
{5} Sweet potatoes are healthier than regular potatoes.
{6} Pure water is MUCH healthier than: soda, tea, Snapple or alcohol.
{7} Eat no more than one whole egg each day; more white parts are safe.
{8} Brown eggs are not healthier than white eggs, just more expensive.
{9} Fresh eggs sink in water; bad ones float.
{10} Olive oil is infinitely healthier than butter. (OxygenMag 2011/8/16)
{11} Herbs and spices are much healthier than salt. (ibid)

Five Foods that Kill People
from: Yahoo Shine, year 2011
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{1} sodas, colas, sweet carbonated beverages
{2} potato chips and French fries
{3} candy bars
{4} sausages and wieners
{5} fatty meats, especially fried

I suggest that this discussion should return to its original topic.

Nachi Gordon Urges Community Not to Flaunt Lavish Vacations on Social Media
February 7, 2024 by Baruch Green

(VINnews) — Kudos to renowned podcaster and media figure Nachi Gordon, who has called out members of the frum community who boast about their lavish vacations on WhatsApp, Facebook, and Instagram, while so many people are suffering in Eretz Yisrael.

In a Twitter post Tuesday, the founder and CEO of Meaningful Minute and the co-host of Meaningful People, pointed out the insensitivity of American Jews posting about vacations while our fellow Jews are at war.

He expressed criticism of “flaunting five star vacations when chayalim are sleeping on the floor in Gaza” and people are “fighting with blood, sweat and tears in Gaza”.

Nachi made it clear that there is nothing wrong with taking a vacation, suggesting that the real issue is flaunting it and lacking proper sensitivity to the plight of so many Jewish brethren.

Are we Jews required to believe that Chazal [ancient Rabbis and Torah Scholars] possessed complete knowledge of: radio waves and radio technology, television technology, telephone technology, digital cameras, tape recorders, email technology, nuclear energy, solar energy, Quantum Physics, Einstein’s Theory of Relativity, x-rays, the Periodic Table of Elements, the ring structure of benzene molecules, BC Calculus & Calculus of Complex Variables & multi-variable Calculus, Differential Equations, Analysis of Variance, Matrix Algebra, Neutron Stars and Black Holes, Microwave Oven technology and modern anesthesia?

Most Charedim believe that all Secular Education is FORBIDDEN.
How could Chazal have complete knowledge of all
modern science and technology, if Secular Education is FORBIDDEN?

If Chazal had complete knowledge of all modern science and technology, then they must have spent MANY years studying those things.
If Chazal spent many years studying modern science and technology, then how did they have enough time to master all of Torah? How could they justify taking time away from Torah study to master all of those sciences and technologies?

And from where did they learn all of science and technology? Who taught them?

I have been in Orthodox Judaism for 40 years, and many people who know Torah have praised my Torah knowledge. But during those 40 years, NOBODY ever told me that we Jews are required to believe that Chazal possessed complete knowledge of all modern science and all modern technology – until I met Mr. AviraDeArah, in this Coffee Room.

Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan [ZTL ZYA] was a genius in both Torah and secular sciences.

Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan’s book about Rambam’s 13 principles of Emunah NEVER MENTIONS that we Jews are required to believe that Chazal possessed ANY knowledge of modern science or technology.

Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan also wrote another, much-longer book about what Jews should believe: THE HANDBOOK OF JEWISH THOUGHT.
Again, that book NEVER MENTIONS that we Jews are required to believe that Chazal possessed ANY knowledge of modern science or technology.
I read both of those books many times, I know what I am talking about.

I started this discussion LeShem Shamayim, to help my fellow Jews.
I do not receive any personal benefit from this discussion; I did it as a chesed.

When I was attacked by AviraDeArah, I felt as if I had been punched in the face, as part of a totally unexpected surprise attack. My feelings of shock were so great that I was unable to respond, because I stunned into silence.