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I don’t even know why anybody has to accept this idea that people live in EY on some sort of l’malah min hateva level. No such thing. They’re just living on less, and living on American money. This l’malah min hateva thing is made up of out of thin air. And we’re supposed to accept it at face-value because to say it’s not true all of a sudden makes you an apikoris. And some anecdotal evidence doesn’t prove a thing.
The idea that anti-semitism is widespread in America is merely propaganda. There might be a lot of ant-israel sentiment, with some spillover into anti-semitism (and we can thank Medinas Yisroel for that) but it’s not significant or dangerous, when compared to the danger that the Arabs pose in Eretz Yisroel.
Phil,
I highly doubt that Joseph feels any happiness when a jew is Israel is hurt or killed. I think that’s a terrible thing to say about someone. Joseph has the right (if not the responsibility) to point out that living in Israel is more dangerous than almoat any other civilized place in this world.Phil,
A’s you admitted yourself, you have no idea what the Satmerer Rebbe wrote. And you yourself said that you have no interest in studying what he wrote. But somehow you know all about his opinion about maisah Satan and all about what the other gedolim held. Maybe it’s time to educate yourself. Get busy studying. I’m not saying you can’t have your own opinion, and disagree with a gadol, but at least study his shittah first.Phil,
Who told you that it’s a da’as yochid? On the question of whether or not to vote he was a da’as yochid, but not on the more substantial ideas. I’ve studied this for years (both sides; I served for the IDF in Lebanon and Gaza for a fifteen months as well, so I haven’t just talked the talk). Of course you don’t plan to ever read it. Most people are like that. They’re big talkers, but little to show for it. Please explain to me about this da’as yochid business. What do even know about the Satmar Rebbi’s da’as?Phil,
Did you ever even learn the whole Vayoel Moshe? I don’t know about holy grail, but he definitely knew a lot more than you. Try it, it would be a learning experience. It’s always the amei ha’arertz who speak like you do.Put,
I guess you’ve forgotten about the two churbons. Many Jews were slaughtered in Eretz Yisroel. And don’t think it can’t happen again. History does repeat itself.
Avi,
The destruction of Israel can happen without nuclear warfare. Millions of Jews can be killed in an attack with regular weapons. Stop with the fantasies of Israel being the safe place for Jews. It’s just a dream.Read Aviezer Ravitzky’s Messianism, Zionism And Jewish Religious Radicalism, and you’ll fill yourself in on all the details.
Avi K.,
Please, Rav Herzog didn’t “pasken” anything like that. He was a talmid chochom, not a Navi. Don’t believe garbage stories like that. And for sure dont build a whole hashkafa out of it.Litvisher,
No question, Hashem could do whatever He wants, and there could be a Holocaust in America tomorrow. But practically speaking, common sense and a basic understanding of how the world works tells you that having millions of Jews concentrated in one area, surrounded by enemies that want to kill Jews (not just draw swastikas) is more dangerous than anything else.Litvisher,
Instead of spouting propaganda, think with your head. The State of Israel is the most dangerous place for Jews. I’m not talking about nuclear war, I’m talking about a nuclear attack on Israel for the purpose of killing Jews. You have to live in reality.
And Avi K., when you prove your credentials at interpreting and applying cryptic and prophetic pesukim you can get back to me. Till then, we live in a world of practical considerations.They won’t be able to escape. That’s one of the dangers of the State of Israel. It creates a false sense of security for the Jews living there. And although it might be a beautiful place to visit, it is actually the most dangerous place in the world for Jews to live, because on a practical level there is no other place in the world were such a large group of Jews live together under constant threat from their enemies. And I’m not referring to the local Arabs who can kill “merely” ten to a hundred Jews in a terrorist attack. I’m talking about countries that are capable of killing hundreds of thousands of Jews with a press of the button. And it will be no consolation for us that the State’s nuclear armed submarines annihilated Iran or whoever it was in response.
Libraries have ruined many people over the years. But those who are not sensitive to what a dirtied neshama means, would not understand.
Any serious study of the tcheiles that is available now, leads to the conclusion that it is the real thing, and it should be worn by everybody. All the questions have already been answered (see Levush Ha’aron by Rav Hellman) and the the silence is deafening. What we need is more people to start wearing it in public (many talmidei chachomim wear it underneath) so that it becomes more accepted, and we reach a tipping point where it becomes the normal and accepted thing to do.
As usual, people are confusing general attitudes that Hashem desires from us, with individual situations that require weighing all of the pertinent issues. Rav Miller’s words remain true in the year 2017 like they were when he said them – as they were derived from the words of the Torah which are eternal. For an individual family a lot of other considerations have to be weighed, which Rav Miller always did.
Lesschumras,
You should print up your post and have it buried with you after 120. You’ll have a lot to answer for.Zahavasdad,
Rav Miller told me the above in 1999. Of course, in personal conversation he took all details into consideration.Takes 22 tango,
I didn’t mention da’as Torah. And I didn’t mention halacha either. But instead of throwing around code words, you should be talking tachlis. And tachlis is, that Rav Miller guided people in living a life infuses with Hashem. And that’s the ikar of life. You can argue from now till tomorrow about da’as Torah and Hashkafa and kefira, but you’re missing out on your purpose in this world. (And regarding your view of hashkafa being non-binding, even Professor Kellner “Does A Jew Have to Believe Anything” and Professor Shapiro “The Limits of Orthodox Theology” don’t go that far and they themselves are bordering apikorsis. Did you read all of the Rambam’s writing? Did you read Rav Sadia’s Emunos V’dei’os?)Apushetehyid,
It’s not fair at all to speculate unless you were close to Rav Miller, asked him many personal questions, listened to thousands of hours of shiurim, and read all of his seforim. Maybe you can argue, but you can’t speculate (at least with any accuracy) about what he would say. He wasn’t saying this idea in the 1930’s.He was still alive in 2001, by the way, and was still saying the same thing. And for reasons that you have yet to grasp, because you aren’t aware of his hashkafa – except for some bits and pieces you hear along the way.Again, you are more than welcome to have your own opinion on this matter, as well as quote from other talmidei chachomim who might differ with the Rav about this issue. But to claim that he would say differently today, is nothing but conjecture – and it’s probably wrong as well. If you listen to a few hundred of his shiurim, as well as read his many seforim, you would see what he believed was the proper Torah hashkafa. I would look to his seforim and shiurim, before turning to his “family” to determine what he would say today. Leaving out the problem of the expenses (which he would deal with at an individual level when he spoke with you) , he would definitely say to stay in a dense and crowded Jewish community.
Gadolhatorah,
Rav Miller taught us to be insular and parochial. Why is that dated Torah?It’s a free country and anybody can choose to argue with Rav Miller if they choose. But it’s wrong to superimpose your own own ideals onto those of the Rav. The Rav said many times that it is preferable to choose to live in the most densely Jewish populated area. He said that the more crowded with frum Jews, the better. Of course, when it came to individual people asking for advice, he took a lot of other factors into consideration, but as a general rule, he said that it is preferable to live in a place that is most densely populate with other Orthodox Jews. It wasn’t just an issue of, “Does the suburb have the basic needs to live a faithful Orthodox Jewish. He believed that the ratzon Hashem was that we should live among as many Jews as possible in an environment that is bustling and crowded with frum Jews, all trying to serve Hashem as best as they could. Not only that, but he understood this ideal as being the basic pshat for why the Toras Hashem says that walled cities in Eretz Yisroel have a higher level of kedusha than unwalled cities (see his peirush on Va’yikra 25:29, 25:31 as well as many of his shiurim where he discusses the din of a metzora having to leave a walled city because of its inherent kedusha).
How it is that people have time to worry about this issue, much less discuss it, is beyond me.
There is a weekly Parsha sheet that goes out via email, and is is printed up as well from [email protected]. They’re planning to release it as a sefer next year, but meanwhile you can sign up to get it. Basically, it’s a long dvar Torah based on the Parsha, that is meant to develop a specific idea each week to work on which will prepare you for the Next World.