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@rocky, coffee, always
I didn’t mean that the only taxes they pay is sales tax; they also pay income, property (arnona)… It was just a means of demonstrating the numbers. As far as your legitimate points of roads, sewage, etc. You’re absolutely right. If the numbers don’t add up, revert to OP. If they do, this Israeli is correct. I don’t know the numbers. Rocky and Always, let’s hear them.“spot on: The ק״ג /aw/ vowel and חולם /oʊ/ diphthong are two distinct sounds.”
Naturally. And aw is closer to a cholam than uh. And uh is closer to a patach than aw.
I asked this question to an Israeli yeshivaman. He told me “מה פתאם? We pay taxes [which he told me is not required under Dina Demalchusa, according to the Chazon Ish]. We’re just getting OUR money back.”
I countered that the state gives way more than the chareidi population’s taxes.
But he told me: $500 million a year [to yeshivos], divided by a million chareidim. [his numbers, I din’t fact check.] $500 a chareidi per year. The sales tax is 17%. Every chareidi pays that amount in sales tax alone.So even if he’s wrong about Dina Demalchusa , if he’s right with the numbers:
Israel taxpayers fund Bar Ilan and Hebrew University and Chaim Weizmn University.
They fund gas and electricity for Gazans [for the past 20 years]
They fund Netanyahu’s trips to AmericaAre they not entitled to a drop back for their yeshivos?
@kuvult/skripka
To me, that answer is the worst. The absolute worst. If you ask any rav a sh’ailah, they’ll tell you “according to my research…” “According to Dr. …. the way it works is….” They will NOT pasken absolutely on something they don’t know. They’ll make sure to say “If, indeed, that’s how the fuse works, then on Shabbos…”
And Chazal who came to be koveia halachos for dorei doros–who filled the capacity of the Lishkas Hagaziz (R’ Elchanan)–would have be severly irresponsible if they didn’t make sure to condition their p’sak on the veracity of whichever scientist they were basing it on.“Why do most people pronounce the first two words of the Kaddish as יִתְגַּדַּל וְיִתְקַדַּשׁ when the גר”א demonstrated that those two specific words are not Judeo-Aramaic but לשון הקדש and should thus be pronounced יִתְגַּדֵּל וְיִתְקַדֵּשׁ? (See ס’ מעשה רב.)
Why do most people say כִרְעוּתֵהּ when, as the גר”א demonstrates, the כ”ף should have a דגש? (The word should be כִּרְעוּתֵהּ. Again, see ס’ מעשה רב.)”
Because there are those who are choleik on the gr”a. (I think the yaaveitz, but am not sure.)
Interestingly, the mishna berura writes like the gr”a regarding your 1st paragraph, but not the 2nd.“Why do most people pronounce the קמ”ץ קטן like a קמ”ץ גדול? And why do most people mispronounce the קמ”ץ גדול as a פת”ח when the pronunciation “aw” traditional to the Ashkenazic and Yeminite Jews is the correct one?
And why do the Sephardim traditionally pronounce the קמ”ץ preceding a חטף קמ”ץ as a short ō, making the sound of words like צָהֳרַיִם “Tza-Ho-Ra’im”? After all, the word is the dual form of צֹֽהַר (“window,” “aperture”). Is it correct to transmute the חוֹלָם to a קמ”ץ גדול?”
While I can’t understand your 2nd paragraph, it seems your complaint is in direct contrast to a years-long complaint of mine. You opt for the Askenaz/Yemenite version of “aw” for the ק״ג as opposed to the s’fardim who use “aw”, or similar, for the ק״ק. And yet, the ק״ק of the ספרדים makes much more sense. The ק״ק is a derivative of a חולם and hence מסתבר that it’s close to a חולם than the ק״ג. This is implied by the גר״א as well, who says a ק״ג is a hybrid of קמץ and פתח.
ותיתי לי that I adopted the ק״ק of the ספרדים. (But say “uh” for ק״ג.)@neville, what are you talking about? “Keser” is mentioned in rishonim. Putting baruch sheamar in the middle [of shabbos psukei dezimra] is brought down in the Tur.
@cs
a prime example of why not to entangle ourselves with ta’ama dekra, and just suffice with “kach tzivani haborei.”Don’t make such jokes.
The girl is a few pesukim worth. The actual question as to why the whole parsha of nedarim is so long, baalei mussar say to expound on the holiness of speech. (“Lo yacheil devaro”)
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my questions:What is tzara deshchina and how can we feel it?
And according to Ashkenazic tradition, the plural is “shtuyos”.
Great question.
Answer: it’s a community of very similar, judgemental people , who therefore become very guarded and –shall we say,–insecure.cute.
“The vast majority of Chareidim will never accept any candidate for the Melech HaMashiach who is …a Baal Teshuvah…even though there is no Halachic reason why those people should be automatically disqualified…”
i think the rambam says that moshiach will be muchzak bechassidus from a young age. But I might be mistaken.יפה הקשתי ונדחפתי בקש.
what’s the difference between reishis tzmichas geuloseinu and aschalta degeula?
@always was that a reply to me? You’re proving my point. There are many avenues Hashem may take for the Geulah. It need not come about through the state. What makes the state aschalta degeula?Now on to the spin off:
“rashis tzmichas geulosienu,” which someone here said even R’ Isser Zalman and R’ TPF used, shocks me. Because if you delve into it, what they’re saying is that the geulah will come THROUGH the state of Israel. Which means that the State will be the impetus for kibbutz goliyos, and then Moshiach will come.
But that’s a direct contradiction to “achakeh low bchol yom sheyavoi ” because if it comes THROUGH the state, then naturally it won’t happen in one second. It will take years until a state builds up. But if we’re waiting for any day, then the kibbutz goliuyos could happen in one second, al kanfei nesharim, and will have nothing to do with the state.back to the topic, they should have called the settlement קרית מלך.
“We must daven for the galus hashechina to be revealed again. We don’t understand the tzaar of Hashem.”
So if we don’t understand it how are we expected to feel it?what does the tzaar of the shchina mean? The shchina is the presence of Hashem. Wouldn’t it make more sense to say Hashem’s tzaar? And all midos of Hashem are actually hanhagos, so the shchina is not actually betzaar.
Myth 1: I thought that Hashem loved everyone, including reshaim.
Fact: He doesn’t. [There are several sources for this, the pasuk “Hashem oheiv tzadikim” being a good start.]Myth 2: Judaism is male chauvinistic.
Fact: Judaism is female chauvinistic.Myth 3: You can’t play Monopoly on Shabbos.
Fact: If you may play Monopoly ever, then Shabbos is no different.Myth 4: Earth revolves around the sun.
Fact: There is insufficient evidence whether Earth is geocentric or heliocentric.wow mesivta world!
Just my 2 cents. [not “my”, as in original, “my” as in “parroted”)
Avira quotes an unnamed RY that R’ Aharon held R YB to be an apikores…..yet he invited him to speak at the chinuch atzmai event. Tiyuvta.
I was once in his house and a woman was in his kitchen, or side room, maybe (sometimes the gabbaim allowed women in, i don’t know what it depended on, I had heard this woman asking before I went in; apparently ,permission was granted). It was the end of the night, R’ Chaim looked very worn out, anyway, he looked up a bit (seemed to me the way I might stretch my back, like being a bit worn out. I might be wrong about the exact psychology behind his looking up and slightly to the side. Anyway,) he saw her, and instantly, as though his eyes had been burnt, looked back down.
(One last parentheses: I don’t think the woman was supposed to have made herself visible to R’ Chaim.)