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The beis din of Jerusalem recently rereleased the longstanding psak forbidding the joining IDF for and G-d-fearing Jews, confirming its application in the current situation. Until another beis din of similar stature (that was not put in chrem… kookies) issues challenges it with a different psak (which seems obvious not going to happen, as current ban follows basic longstanding halacha), this whole conversation is a mute point, and it is a shame some many people spread confusion with comments about pikiyach nayfesh and milchemes mitzveh and being “migalei panim l’torah lo k’halucheh”
the rashoyim actively doing the aveira of hisgarus ba’umos shouldn’t be praise for the destruction they bring and the danger they put us in
@chaim_baruch
the zionist dream is two part: 1) the heresy of “kochi v’otzem yadi”, the belief that Jews can protect themselves with guns and wars and an army (not with tefila, tzeduka, tshuva), and 2) that Jews have a national identity that is not “those who keep the Torah covenant”, rather it is some other pseudo-ethnic nationality.Both those ideas are alive
this website is for frum Jews. If we are part of “am yisroel” it is a fundamental belief that moshiach can come any day and that we don’t known when it will happen.
The key to stopping anti-semitism is for yidden to stop doing aveiros. Second perhaps to smartphones, the greatest spiritual calamity to masses of yidden today is zionist ideology which has impeded itself into much of the otherwise frum communities worldwide.
If a Jew thinks that the IDF or the State of Israel has any redeeming qualities (at least any more than the Crusaders or Pharaoh), they are inadvertently causing this war to continue along with the continued terrorist attacks of the past 100 years, Hashem yerachem.
the chofetz chaim is also clear to exclude anyone who is “mechalel shabbos b’farhesia” from ahavas yisroel, even if they live their irreligious life out of general ignorance.
@anIsraeliYid , That book has been widely rejected as not consistent with our Mesora. I don’t mean to disparage the intent of the author, however there is a system of halacha and transmission of mesora that has declared that work as wrong. This is similar to the critique of A Y Kook, who was put in cherem for similar views. If I am mistaken about Eim Habunim Smeicha, please tell me which gedolim endorse the sefer and/or his conclusions.
what are “Chahbonos”?
First, the Satmar Rebbe ztz”l said, and many gedolim concurred, that Moshiach would have come if not for the Zionist State. Beyond that, the foundation of teshuva is: if not for my aveiros I wouldn’t be suffering. So, there is certainty substance to the idea that if not for the Zionist State there wouldn’t be antisemitism.
Second, unfortunately many Jews have responded to the recent tragedy with running to join the zionist army and cheer when the zionists attack our enemies with bombs and guns. Honest Yidden will know that the recent events are a call to teshuva tzedakah and tefilla, the only things that can prevent such tragedies.the whole point of “modern orthodox” is specifically to not be 100%. It was considered a compromise to help people stay “in the fold” by some rabanim in the 20th century. It has run its course, as the Jewish community has established itself enough that 100% Yiddishkeit has become a mainstream option.
“Lake, i suppose opposing tzedukim, karaim, shabsai tzvi, reform, conservative, zionism, and every other bad idea was against the Torahs lesson from korach?”
Again, if the ideology is indeed “against the Torah”, you would be correct. However, there has been no authority who has made such claim, so at this point it is “sinas chinam” to publicly deride the ideology or its adherents.
“Why is criticizing an ideology hateful, and if it is, why is it baseless?”
because the specific ideology you are looking to criticize, is a criticism that has no toeles plus you are doing it very publicly to an audience that it not connected to the proponents of the ideology.Your question lacks any sincerity. If you really want to know the answer to your question, for yourself, you would ask your rav to clarify how or if the ideology is tenable. If you personally are not interested in have concluded that the ideology is wrong, yet you want to understand how it is possible for an honest Jew to believe that ideology, you would need to address your question privately to someone who is an adherent of or at least well versed in that ideology. If you don’t know anyone to ask privately in that community, there are very public rabbanim from that community that are not hard to find.
On top of that, the issue you bring up has been well discussed and debated and you (seemingly) are not bringing anything new to the conversation.
At best, you are trying to give tochacha to a community you think is wrong, however, no cherem, psak, or announcement has denounced the community or the ideology from any prominent rabanim or bataei dinim. If I am wrong, and such a move has been publicly made, than you wouldn’t need to ask your questions here, you can just reference the authority.
You are just a bully trying to get people to think bad on other holy Jews. sinas chinam.
all that this means, it that’s he wasn’t a “tinok sh’nishba”, instead a full fledged mumar