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August 30, 2022 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm in reply to: Thank you for your love, best wishes and prayers #2119951smerelParticipant
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smerelParticipant>>>Whatever it was, nobody observed any increase in anti-semitism on campus after that anti-Semite visit.
Did you think one visit would cause one? Even (particularly ) the most liberal colleges ban speakers who they don’t agree with their political views.
But lets take a more simple and comparable example to a single speech. Would you be OK with the American Nazi Party forming groups on college campuses all across America
smerelParticipant>>> I don’t understand what heter there is after the clubs began 22 years ago. Rabbi shechter, Rabbi Willig, and Rav Aharon Kahn should have left
While you can’t understand they of course do…
Why do they need a hetter to continue to teach someone because some toeava people are strong-arming the school?
YU probably wouldn’t hire a Rosh Yeshiva who has no college level secular education but if they did they would have no problem getting resumes from some of the most Yeshivish places…
smerelParticipant>>>One should consider whether any private university that received direct and indirect (e.g. student loans, tax exemptions, etc.) is allowed to ban an organization whose advocacy it disapproves of. Could YU ban a “friends of cheeseburgers” club?
YU isn’t looking to ban clubs and the toeva crowd did not sue them for attempting to do so. The toeva crowd sued them for not allowing any school facilities to be used for their meetings and not allowing them to PROMOTE or advertise their clubs existence on school property or use any other type of school resources. YU lost the case due to the sacred status given to toeva people by liberal groups.
Even from a totally secular perspective YU seems correct.
Say you have a (non-Jewish) college. There is frat group that does little other than smoking, drinking beer and partying all night. The school is unhappy with it’s existence and decides to treat it the same way YU wants to treat the toeva clubs. Even from a totally secular perspective shouldn’t they have that right?
Or say you have a group of religious people who made a secular college. There are a group of students who want them to make the school to actively promote beliefs and behavior that are antithetical to their religion (as opposed to just ignoring the students engaged in it) Shouldn’t freedom of religion allow them to refuse to PROMOTE that group?
smerelParticipant>>>Another is that we don’t know his intentions; why exactly did the Yemenite jews need help? Because they were poorer than Jews in tel aviv?
According to all neutral versions of history they needed because the Jews in Yemen were facing a difficult time. Over 80 Jews were killed in the 1947 Aden riots and many Jewish owned houses were destroyed, In 1948 there was an accusation that the Jewish community in Sa’ana had murdered two Muslim girls so all the community leaders were imprisoned. etc
Without going into the debates on the subject and even assuming the Zionist version of history is pure revisionisms, ask yourself the following question. Do you think that in the span of just one year over 95% of the Yemenite Jewish community (about 50,000 people) just picked themselves up and abandoned their homes and communities and country they had lived in for over 2,500 years to start a new life in a new country because a few (very , very few to be exact) Zionist representatives showed up and convinced them to move to Israel ? Or was there some other factors behind that decision?
August 25, 2022 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm in reply to: what advice do u wish you’d have received when you were younger? #2118654smerelParticipantTo answer indirectly the advice I wish I would received if shared here would probably be harmful to most of those reading it .
You have to live your own life and not base things on what is true for others. But that is such a vague statement that it should be of little help to anyone
smerelParticipantNo way Trump is going to jail. It doesn’t suit the Democrats purposes. If Trump were in jail (1)The Democrats would not him as the bogey man to revolve their whole party agenda around anymore and (2)it would galvanize Republican and independent voters who hate Trump to vote Republican anyway (3)would set a precedent that would land many Democrat lawmakers in jail as well.
Therefore the Democrats are just going to continue what they have done for past six years which is to tell us of how Trump is a major threat to Democracy , assure us that they have the information to send him to jail which is about to be made public. But never actually send him to jail.
smerelParticipant>>>Hageman was supported only because she was now a supporter of the BIG LIE.
Um… no. I’m guessing you are copying and posting your comment from some liberal website because no one familiar with the campaign could have come to that conclusion.
Hageman did not campaign on her views on Trump. You could passionately hate Trump and still vote for her because you agreed with the issues she raised during her campaign.
It was Cheney who campaigned on a platform of demanding absolute unquestioning loyalty to her view on Trump with zero allowance for nuance or shades of gray. And did not allow any other issues facing Wyoming to be a factor in her campaign.
No surprise that she lost so badly. I can’t stand Trump but would have voted for Hageman over Cheney any day.
smerelParticipantJackk. I won’t argue with your perception but I will say Cheney was the one for who the election was all about (dis)loyalty for Trump. Not Hageman.
Hageman for all her alliance with Trump did not run on the platform of “I’m Trump’s heir…I will keep the legacy of Trump etc.” She ran on issues that resonated with the voters in Wyoming that she could have stressed even were Trump to never have existed. Other than pure hating Trump what reason did Cheney give for anyone to vote for her?
People like yourself should realize that for all your faulting and claiming the Republican party is the party of Trump in reality it is people like yourself who are the ones truly obssessed with and willing to revolve all politics around Trump.
smerelParticipantI can’t stand Trump but few politicians were more deserving of losing than Cheney.
Had Cheney (1) given off the impression of conducting a good faith, fair, unbiased investigation and (2) show a tenth of the passion she shows for hating Trump for caring about her constituents she would have been reelected. Being that she didn’t it was a very well deserved loss.
Trump’s corruption does not make the J6 committee straight and honest . Nor do his personal faults make his opponents into tzadikim. Not even in relation to him.
smerelParticipant>>>Point of information: Ethel was later determined to be innocent. She was stitched up by her brother David
Zero sympathy for her here. She refused to talk during the investigation and trial to save the other communist activists she was dealing with.
Her brother David was recruited by her husband into the spy ring. His false testimony was based on what his wife claimed. (He claimed to have seen it himself when it was really hearsay from his wife who was a Russian spy herself)
So if you think you have a bad family just look at them…
smerelParticipant>>>One count against Trump now is espionage ! They can’t make this stuff up !
When it comes to Trumps more rabid enemies you can make anything up…
To paraphrase Trump: The New York Times can make up that Trump shot three people on Fifth Avenue and the entire media world will fly into outrage and the FBI will fly into action.
smerelParticipant>>>Why are there similarities between Hinduism and Judaism or in general Indians and Jews? etc.
Because certain truths are or were universally recognized. I can think of concepts a lot more central to Judaism than walking around going around 7 circles in the Chuppa that are also found in some other religions religions. It makes a lot of sense that those religions would have independently came to do/say the same thing. And it wouldn’t surprise me n the slightest in it was proven that such things were in practice/in writing before Mattan Torah. Do you expect that every mitzvah and concept in the Torah should be something that does NOT resonate with people and something that no one would ever think of their own as being the right thing to do/correct way the world works?
smerelParticipant>>>I’m fairly certain Garland, with extensive trial court experience drilled down fairly deeply on the scienter arguments of whether DOJ could demonstrate that Trump etc. etc. etc.
This is the standard circular logic that the media is using. How do you know the raid was justified? The FBI /DOG/Garland would not have taken such a dramatic step this unless it really needed to and had solid evidence for that
Not only does such an approach give carte blanche to the government to use unrestrained power to do whatever it wants against it political enemies
Moreover the Steele dossier, the FISA surveillance of Carter Page, the Mueller report, and the near endless web of implications and insinuations should disabuse any fair-minded person that the FBI deserves such a trusting mindset.
smerelParticipant>>>Didn’t he say, ” Anyone being investigated by the FBI is not qualified to be president of the USA”.
At the time he said it the FBI was still a respected government agency that was considered above making investigations for political motives . Today it no longer is.
And it wasn’t Trump who caused them to lose their good reputation . I despise Trump but still lost my respect for the FBI
smerelParticipantAnyone – and that includes me – who is online on Tisha B’Av is totally not in the position to be telling others what the right way to spend Tisha B’av is. There is zero question that Hashem would prefer someone watching some inspirational speaker over being here right now.
And, no, I don’t remember that before these speakers became the in thing that Tisha B’Av was a day of mourning, reflection and tfilla for the masses. The type of people who spent their Tisha B’Av that way are still doing so today. The masses who were not, are a lot better off having these speakers available.
Personal question for the OP, Other than going to shul and coming here to start this thread, how did you spend the rest of your day today?
smerelParticipant>>>Do we really know the grave site of Tziporrah, Yitro. Aharon Hakohen, Yehoshua?
Explicit posuk that Ahron was buried in Har Hahor in what is now Jordan. Where in Jordan is Har Hahor is not clearly known but the MUSLIM tradition that he was buried where he is believed to by some to have been buried is over 700 years old.
The posuk says that Yehoshua was buried in Timnath-serach but it is unclear where that city is today, let alone where in the city Yehoshua was buried
smerelParticipant>>>Lot’s wife? Gilgal? Shlomo Hamelech beams marking the Yam Suf crossing? Noach Teva in Turkey? Kever David?
No one visits Naoch’s teaiva but there is an explicit posuk saying that it landed on Mount Ararat so yes it’s location is known. Whether it is still there today is debatable
smerelParticipant>>>Mordechai and Esther today are still currently buried in Iran with the government allowing visitors to the site.
I’m not saying they aren’t but Mordechai is mentioned in Gemara Menochos as having been in Eretz Yisroel after the second Beis Hamkidash was built. Why would he have gone back to Iran/Persia afterwards? (I can think of many possible reasons but still I question if it is so clear that he actually did)
>>>Just in the last decade they have recently been trying to bring their kevorim to Israel with no Success.
Even for the purpose of bringing them to Eretz Yisroel who would possibly take it on his responsibility to dig up their kevarim?
smerelParticipant>>>Based on experience I can tell you this is not a true generality. And if you say it based on personal speculation, it might be motzei shem rah
How much experience do you have with anonymous donors?
How is it possible to speak motzei shem rah on a unknown antonymous group?
smerelParticipant>>>I get turned off when a wealthy fellow seems to be donating big money to a yeshiva/tzidaka/organization in a very public way.
Even assuming you would be correct I much prefer people give Tzedoka and get kovod than they don’t give as much. It is safe to assume that the anonymous baaley tzedoka don’t give as much. When was the last time you heard of a Yeshiva building or any other massive tzedoka donation that was made by an anonymous donor?
Moreover a guy who has his name on a building or some other kovod is announcing that he is a baal Tzedoka, come and solicit by me. An anonymous donor is avoiding the solicitors.
smerelParticipant>>>Sorry, current events is not called being fixated. It is daily in the news as the committee does it’s work and republicans who were the closest to the president testify to congress under oath.
Being fixated on one version of something that happened a year and a half ago doesn’t make it current events. It’s called being fixated on telling one version of something that happened a year and a half ago.
That applies to both you and the committee
smerelParticipant>>>What about John Kasich?
Amazing that because he hates Trump liberals believe that John Kasich is a man of principle as opposed to an opportunist jerk.
We’ll put aside that Trump was only candidate by the 2016 Republican debates to refuse to support whoever the Republicans nominee would be, but then when Trump became the nominee breaking that pledge and not supporting became an act of principle for Kasich
Kasich is the one person who could have prevented a Trump presidency. In 2016 when it was him, Cruz and Trump who were the only candidates left in the race, Kasich would have needed him about 85% of all future delegates to become nominee.(an impossibility) Therefore the Republican party begged him to drop out and not split the anti-Trump vote so Cruz would be the nominee. Kasich refused and Trump became the nominee without ever winning the majority in any state. Yet the Democrats still believe he is all principle and only motivated by country over party and not wanting Trump as president. As opposed to relishing in the honor they are giving him for claiming to have such motivations
smerelParticipant>>>What about John Kasich?
Amazing that because he hates Trump liberals believe that John Kasich is a man of principle as opposed to an opportunist jerk.
We’ll put aside that Trump was only candidate by the 2016 Republican debates to refuse to support whoever the Republicans nominee would be, but then when Trump became the nominee breaking that pledge and not supporting became an act of principle for Kasich
Kasich is the one person who could have prevented a Trump presidency. In 2016 when it was him, Cruz and Trump who were the only candidates left in the race, Kasich would have needed him about 85% of all future delegates to become nominee.(an impossibility) Therefore the Republican party begged him to drop out and not split the anti-Trump vote so Cruz would be the nominee. Kasich refused and Trump became the nominee without ever winning the majority in any state. Yet the Democrats still believe he is all principle and only motivated by country over party and not wanting Trump as president. As opposed to relishing in the honor they are giving him for claiming to have such motivations
smerelParticipant>>> I disagree with her on many issues but can’t help but respect her for standing up for truth, justice and the American way.
Do you really think she is doing it out of altruism or out of seeking admiring comments like yours , fawning media articles about her and the suggestions that she run for president that no one was making a year ago?
It’s possible that one point in time she was altruistic. At this point the power and honor has gotten to her head.
What does she have to offer anyone other than hating Trump?
When as widely predicated she loses her primary you can be sure she will be whining that it is all because she stood on principle blah, blah, blah. In reality it’s because why do the Republican voters in Wyoming need her for? For her to send out more subpoenas and be on more headlines?
If her message was “I have your best interest at heart and I believe that getting rid of Trump is one of them” she would probably get reelected. Her actual message is “I’m here to get at Trump. Who cares about the people of Wyoming and their best interests?”
smerelParticipantThirty years ago I would have preferred a Jewish politician
Back then a secular Jewish politician was more likely to identify with Jewish causes even frum ones than a non-Jewish politician. There were exceptions even back then NYS Senator Alfonzo Demato was a lot closer to the frum community than his liberal Jewish opponents . But on the whole it was true Rav Moshe Feinstein left his hospital bed to visit the hospital bed of totally secular Jewish NYS senator Jacob Javits as hakoras hatov for all that he did for K’llal Yisroel.
Today on the other hand, no way! Not only would I not be more likely to vote for a secular Jewish politician over his non-Jewish opponent even a frum Jewish politician is questionable. If it was a frum Democrat running against a non-Jewish Republican I would almost certainly vote for the non-Jewish Republican candidate.
smerelParticipantDid he have a hard life? Yes
Will Hashem take his past into account? Yes
As humans should we give him the death penalty anyway? Also yes
Only Hashem can truly judge people. We for our part need to be careful not to give free passes for people to harm others because of the difficulties they had in life.
smerelParticipant>>>What are Trump supporters gonna do now that Truth Social is a disaster and Twitter is not going to allow Trump back?
Don’t worry about them. They can always rely on people like you to faithfully make sure everyone knows some version of everything Trump said or did. Whether he actually said it or did it or not.
How on earth does a Musk-Twitter deal conversation start off with the main focus on Trump ?
What does Musk’s personal life have to do with it?
Do you know how common it is to back off from deals causing losses to the other side in the business world? I personally know someone who recently lost a quarter of a million dollars because he signed a contract with the government which backed out on him for political reasons so all the money he invested into getting his business ready to take on the contract was down the drain.
July 10, 2022 11:01 am at 11:01 am in reply to: Inefficient and Sketchy Non Profits / Tzedaka organizations #2104819smerelParticipant>>>I have a couple in mind, almost all don’t put out their tax returns like they’re supposed to and could be just cash cows for the one or two people running them.
If they don’t make their tax returns public how do you have this information about them? How do they keep their tax exempt status?
smerelParticipant>>>Most people love the person that the establishment hates etc.
Not really. In a functional society it is a certain type of person who hates the establishment and loves those who it hate it . They are anti-establishment because that is who they are personality wise . Not because it tells them what to do.
It is in a dysfunctional society (like the current US political situation) where so many people hate the establishment and love who it hate it.
smerelParticipant>>>There are many fanatical evangelical christian trump supporters who worshipped trump in a religious way since day one. etc.
Like so many other things about Trump I only hear that his supporters think that way from his enemies . I’ve yet to see an actual Trump supporter say such things.
I know you can find You Tube video’s of anything. End of the day I’ve never come across any actual Trump supporter who advocated such beliefs.
Then again I’ve never cam across any Trump supporter who is nearly as obsessed with him as some of his enemies are
smerelParticipant>>>Neo chasidis is trying to fight this, but who ever isn’t from an hasidic background wouldn’t want another culture to save their own.
Neo chasidis does not look to fight with anyone or anything. There are those who grew up chasidish who identify with neo chasidim and go to their shiurim. But they don’t recruit such people. Or anyone else.
smerelParticipant>>>Neo chasidus is ncsy but with beards and peyos
Not really. NCSY does not focus on Chasidish seforim.Neo Chasidus does
Neo chasidus is not well defined movement even according to some of those who teach it . They focus on incongruent Chasidish seforim of a certain variety (they aren’t into the Meor V’Shemsh or the Noam Elimech) but the they also add Pachad Yitzchok from Rav Hutner and Rav Kook into the mix.
They do not follow Chasidish minhogim and do not value growing breads and peyos. (Some of the neo-chasidus adherents do grow beards and long peyon but that isn’t a value stressed by the leaders of the movement )
NCSY does not stress a mystical component. Neo Chasidus does.
smerelParticipantHave we gotten to the point, that people think that other people think that whatever Trump says is true, and that he alone can save America and the world, and those people are turning him into an idol?
Do otherwise sane people really wonder about how long it will be until people start sacrificing small puppies in Mar a Lago?smerelParticipant>>>So he’s 1000% a Trump guy and has more credibility issues than Hutchinson
Right. When Hutchinson is repeating hearsay in the name of Ornato that was allegedly said when he was not under oath the Democrats scream “how can Trump supporters be so crazy as not to believe it?”
When Ornato is willing to give first hand testimony under oath the Democrats scream “how can anyone believe a guy like Ornato?”
smerelParticipant>>>So he’s 1000% a Trump guy and has more credibility issues than Hutchinson
If you aren’t going to believe people because of which side they are on you may as well close down the whole J6 committee. And it never should have started to begin with
smerelParticipant>>>It will be interesting what this twosome will have to say under OATH.
Isn’t going to happen. The J6 committee is clearly uninterested in hearing from now. They did speak to them more than once in the past in an effort to find dirt on Trump but now that they may be saying something that weakens the value of a testimony against him they are avoiding these people like the plague.
smerelParticipant>>>Who says that you have to follow the liberal agenda? They provide help to the poor as a springboard to find a job and not like their opponents advocating ‘sink or swim’.
Helping the poor through the confiscation of other people’s money isn’t chesed. It is theft.
What does the Gemorah say about “Chesed Lumim Chatos?”
smerelParticipantTrump is going to pretend and hint that he is running until the last minute . His ego loves the speculation and false hopes among his base.
When it comes down to it, it is lot les likely that he will do so.
For two reasons:
(1)His ego won’t be able to take it if he loses again
(2)He can’t risk the mainstream Republicans turning on him more than they already did. He doesn’t need any former Republican allies looking to get him out the way turning to Democrats with something they “remember” Trump told them that can cause him major legal trouble. There is just a limit to how far you can stretch the value of negative attention when your former allies turn on you.
The above assumes Trump is still capable of rational thought. I’m uncertain that is still the case.
smerelParticipant>>>TDS at it’s finest!
No other president has garnered so much attention while outside of officeAlmost all of that attention is being given to him by his enemies. If he didn’t have so many of them and they didn’t have their own self serving motives for giving it to him that attention he would not be heard from any more than say Obama.
smerelParticipantOne thing is certain. The January 6th Committee clearly does not want any outside scrutiny. Not even by friendly groups. Their absolute refusal to hand over the transcripts of the interviews they conducted to the DOJ which is completely on their side is just another indication that they have something to hide or info they hiding because it does not help their narrative.
smerelParticipantMost poskim do not admit blood tests as evidence that a husband is not the father of his wife’s children and cause mamzerus issues. I have no idea where the fathers were (or weren’t) in the story but one of them probably objected. Particularly if you understand that the Posuk calling the women zonos is to be understood with the usual meaning.
According to the other opinion mentioned in Chazal that they were mother in law and daughter in law pair , both husbands were dead and it was a question of the DIL doing Yibum. If so what would a DNA test have helped? Either way it would show relationship with the MIL . She was either the baby’s mother or grandmother. (the MIL was in fact the actual mother)
smerelParticipantIf you are doing multiple choice and don’t know the answer don’t do just guess any of them. First eliminate the wrong answers, then guess
smerelParticipant>>> Because I think if BLM stormed the capitol in January 2017 to prevent Trump’s inauguration, you would agree that it was worse than other riots.
Had I been given the choice of BLM storming the capitol in January 2017 to prevent Trump’s inauguration or the actual BLM riots where over twenty people were killed and over twenty billion dollars in damages were done and all sort of pro crime anti police law resulted
I absolutely would have preferred them storming the capitol in January 2017 to prevent Trump’s inauguration. A thousand times oversmerelParticipantThe main difference between the two (for liberals) boils down to the liberal belief of “the only difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is which side you are on” . (The actual difference of course is that terrorists target civilians whereas freedom fighters only target military and other government representatives of the occupying forces)
There is no justification for their ignoring riots where over twenty people were murdered and over twenty billion dollars of damage were done. Given the choice between the capital riots happening again or the BLM riots happening again I’ll take the capital riots any day.
The Democrats have thrown their “root cause” ideology out the window for the capital riots. The belief that riots perpetrators behavior is attributable to some kind of societal dysfunction that needs to be addressed did not even get a mention in all the media obsession with January 6.
The question of what drove so many people to get riled up by the idea of election fraud should be a major question for liberals. How can there be such a mass distrust of government and media that Trump is so easily able to peddle such claims is not a question the January 6 commission, in their ostensible efforts to prevent such things from happening in the future, will even consider.
The BLM rioters were handsomely rewarded with liberals sending hundreds or thousands of people to their deaths to die for “defund the police” and other liberal antipolice pro crime ideology. The capital rioters were treated in a way that will probably make them even more radical and hostile to the government
smerelParticipant>>>You can be sure Barr has the information and can assess whether an investigation has been adequate.
This and the rest of your comment basically boils down to “you know how you can you know there was no fraud? Because they said so”
No surprise that people who don’t trust the government (with good reason if I may add) aren’t willing to accept it .
smerelParticipant>>>Maybe he deluded himself, that’s a charitable way to put it. If he was really deluded and ignored data and his officials, then he is not fit to be president.
And maybe the Democrats really have a lot of blame for this particularly with how easy it was for Trump to get his supporters to believe the election was stolen. Maye they have good reason for not trusting the government which the January 6 commission is only adding to
Let’s start from the beginning
What investigations were undertaken regarding claims of fraud in the election in 2020. Who was in charge? In what states? What types of fraud were looked at? When did these investigations begin? When did they end?
What investigative techniques were used? How many search warrants? Any grand juries empaneled? Where? Did any of them issue subpoenas? Was a final report issued? If so why hasn’t it been made public?
I have no idea about any of the questions above. But I do know that Mr Mueller toke a tremendous amount of time and effort with the full weight of the government and media behind him to investigate completely false allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 elections. Had he shot down those allegations as quickly as quickly and operating in as much secrecy as they were shot down in 2020 you would still have many Democrats saying and believing those allegations. More importantly were those involved ever punished for setting the precedent of questioning elections by falsely alleging fraud that Trump was following? Were there hearings then about how to prevent it in the future?
And again I’m anti-Trump but I don’t see the Democrats as being the pro Democracy good guys in the story.
smerelParticipant>>>Dear Smerel, etc
How many times do I have to repeat that I am NOT a Trump supporter?
My opposition to Trump however does not make me blind to the repeated wrongdoings and dishonesty of the other side. And right now they are the ones sounding off , not Trump.
smerelParticipant>>>Smerel: you acknowledge Trump probably did lots of treif things. Yet you skewer and discredit all investigations as corrupt and political. They are working with a handicap because Trump and many of his top supporters have not cooperated.
Only an idiot would cooperate with a investigation when he knows that those who are making it aren’t out for truth but are out to get him. There are plenty of things they could and would have done to work around such distrust if they were looking to do an honest investigation like (1)stress that we don’t know the outcome (2)appoint DEMOCRATS who weren’t long term passionate Trump enemies (3)have oversight and transparency which conducting the investigation (4) have this as an actual hearing with the Trump side being given the ability to be present and question the what is being presented etc.etc.etc.
The way things really were done I don’t think they were even TRYING to make a fair investigation, give accurate information or determine the causes of January in an effort to prevent them from happening again.
I’m being very charitable to both sides by saying Trump seems to have deluded himself into thinking that he really won the election and still thinks that way now. The January 6 committee seems to have deluded themselves into thinking they are impartial investigators honestly presenting an impeccable case against Trump for altruistic motives.
For the good of America’s future as a democracy cooler and more honest heads need to prevail.
smerelParticipant>>>4) The 174 traitors in the republican party that voted on January 6th (after the riots) to overturn the election results.
As if two of the most vocal members of the January 6th commission (Jamie Raskin & Bennie Thomspn ) didn’t try to do the exact same thing in 2016 not to certify Trump.
As is another member of the commission Adam Schff didn’t spend years trying to get rid of Trump by telling us baseless false claims that he had proof of Russian collusion and election fraud resulting in Trump getting elected. And Trump probably really deluded himself into thinking he won the election. Adam Schiff for all his self righteousness probably realized that he was lying when he claimed to have evidence of Russian interference in the 2016 elections
Even if I were capable of believing everything the January 6 commission is saying is true it wouldn’t change the fact that the Democrats spent years engaging in very similar behavior to get rid of Trump. It is only being viewed as a threat to democracy now becuae the other side allegedly did it.
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