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December 21, 2010 3:11 pm at 3:11 pm in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719475smartcookieMember
Chemistry makes for more stable,happier marriages.
Chemistry after marriage is a must. Chemistry while dating does absolutely NOT make a better marriage. You don’t need too much sense to know that.
And many marriages with so much love in the beginning, ends up in a hateful divorce.
Love doesn’t gaurantee you a happy marriage.
December 21, 2010 4:02 am at 4:02 am in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719468smartcookieMemberMdd- I never said your way is wrong.
When my kids grow up I don’t think I’ll put them into a Shidduch blindly. I think I will give them a little more chance to get to know each others.
But I wouldn’t let them be out alone late at night, go to restaurants, games, etc.
Again, I don’t think these things are wrong, but we’re a lot safer without them.
smartcookieMemberYou make it sound like nobody here has a life.
The CR should only be a BTW. You should have countless things to do while the CR updates.
December 21, 2010 12:36 am at 12:36 am in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719457smartcookieMemberMsseeker- the question is how many images of girls he has in his mind even before he gets married!
smartcookieMemberTMB- that’s correct. But by bashing them on a public forum, you only make matters worse.
There’s a way to make people aware of something they are doing wrong.
I’ll leave it up to their Rav or mentor to teach them between right or wrong.
December 20, 2010 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719452smartcookieMemberPopa- 8 dates with the 8th girl. Do your math. What number date is a boy up to by the time he dates THE ONE?
With how many girls did he enjoy the evening?
I’m not here to say whether its right or wrong, but extreme it is.
smartcookieMemberTMB- it is people with comments like yours, that turn people away from Yiddishkeit.
(And that doesn’t give my approval to watch TV)
smartcookieMemberShabbos Zemiros.
December 20, 2010 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719448smartcookieMemberIn any event- we are at two extremes.
Beshows are extreme and dating became very extreme.
I wish we can find a middle way.
December 20, 2010 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719445smartcookieMemberWhy hasn’t anyone mentioned outside influence as a cause for divorce rates? Be it Litvish or Chasidish
Yes. Very big cause.
December 20, 2010 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719443smartcookieMemberMsseeker- don’t stretch my words- I said “to some extent”.
Anyway, it’s the mother of the boy who makes sure the girl looks sweet, put together, and good enough. The boy only gives the last approval.
December 20, 2010 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719439smartcookieMemberMsseeker- Chassidim are also into looks to some extent. It is very important. But it’s not the main.
For the 1,000,000th time were having this discussion….
December 20, 2010 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719436smartcookieMemberMSseeker- that’s true. Anyone with normal brains, will feel some emotional connection to their chosson/Kallah, even if they only have 2 Bashows.
December 20, 2010 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719431smartcookieMemberGavra- yes I disagree. It won’t work with the Litvish world because they are so into chemistry chemistry chemistry.
Of course there has to be chemistry, but there’s more to a Shidduch than feelings.
December 20, 2010 9:05 pm at 9:05 pm in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719430smartcookieMemberWilli- of course it doesn’t always work. Many many many problems in Chassidish circles too.
But those problems dont necessarily stem from not dating.
The point is that people who date are NOT happier.
December 20, 2010 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719426smartcookieMemberGavra- it aint gonna work. You gotta do it this style for many generations!
No matter how much explanation you get, you’ll still think we’re insane. When I think into it, it also seems crazy that we meet 1-3 times and Mazel Tov!
But I live in those circles, and I’m used to it, and it works!
December 20, 2010 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm in reply to: A Radical Solution to the Shidduch Crisis? #719423smartcookieMemberSof Davar- don’t start. If you’re not Chassidish you’ll never understand.
But take it from a Chassidish woman who had a Beshow, YES IT WORKS.
Myself and all my friends are B”H so happily married for years and very genuinely at that. We face the same challenges that Litvish couples face. No couple is perfect.
smartcookieMemberSo right- it’s got nothing to do.
Boys usually do follow everything their parents teach them to, but that doesn’t mean he close to them.
A daughter usually stays very close to her mother, even when following her husband.
December 20, 2010 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm in reply to: Which Sentence Or Conversation Changed You in Some Way? #720435smartcookieMemberSomeone once told me that I’m a big perfectionist. Once I realized the truth in her words, I became even more of a perfectionist because I’m always thinking into it and living up to it.
Good or bad???
smartcookieMemberSo right- I disagree. Married daughters always turn back to Mom for advice, suppers, shmoozing, and mommying!
A married son though has a wife to take care of him now and doesn’t need his mother as much.
smartcookieMemberIf you monitor them well, and know EXACTLY who their friends are in real life, then maybe.
smartcookieMemberWolf- thanks for the laugh! Very creative!
smartcookieMemberThank you for the compliment. You’re correct… I’m not your father in law
Wolf- what makes you think it was a compliment… You don’t know who his FIL is!
(Sorry, just kidding! Couldn’t resist!)
smartcookieMemberI don’t see why this question is offensive.
If I ask: how many rooms do you have in your apt, is that wrong? It’s interesting to know and that’s it.
If you feel totally comfortable with it, then you should feel comfortable answering. Besides if the question is a breech in privacy. But here, it’s an ok question and shouldn’t offend anyone.
(And just as a side note, if someone asks me whether I have internet at home, I am embarrassed to say yes.)
smartcookieMemberAries- he doesn’t look Frum and I’m not sure about his age.
I, And all my neighbors took this as him trying to fool the Heimishe crowd here because he wants our business.
smartcookieMemberDaniel- yes I’m female. But I or anyone else might be faking identity all these years.
Just trying to say, that as long as you don’t know the person LIVE, nothing is certain. Therefore this study won’t work.
smartcookieMemberAries- I answered these questions already. He is the only owner to his business. No non-jew involved.
Now if the owner of Century 21 would constantly fool people that he is religious:
-he would put up mezuzos
-he would arrange a minyan in his store(no Kaddish involved either)
-he would advertise in Jewish weeklys and always write about Yom Tov ans Simchas
Wouldn’t it bother you that his store is open Shabbos?
It bothers me very much that he puts up a show, many people think he’s a good Jew, and they shop there. And they probably wouldn’t if they knew he was playing 2 sides.
smartcookieMemberMetro- they sure do pretend. Do you know that he collects a Minyan Mincha every day?
And even if he doesn’t pretend, he is still NOT ALLOWED to be open on Shabbos. And since he is open Shabbos, I was wondering if Jews may shop there.
smartcookieMemberDon’t play around with Shadchunis $$. It’s a very serious issue.
But you can give any amount. Doesn’t HAVE to be $1000. And of course it only needs to be given to a Shadchan(if the person did ANY part of the Shidduch process for you.)
smartcookieMemberCshapiro- he doesn’t sound like a Rabbi to me. A long beard doesn’t make him into a Rabbi.
smartcookieMemberMischief- you make me laugh. Do you really think that if someone says he’s male/44, that is true?
Anyone can fool you online when you don’t see/hear them.
It would be very interesting but ain’t gonna work.
And btw Mischief- I really seriously always thought you’re a boy.
smartcookieMemberPoster- today’s days, it’s a bigger problem to have internet at home, rather than a TV.
No jokes here.
smartcookieMemberOf course rewarmed Chulent is delicious.
Nothing like fresh Chulent but we always eat it on Sunday with some crispy sour pickles!
smartcookieMemberVnishmartem- exactly. You took the words off my tongue!
smartcookieMemberAre we speaking about the same store? New Utrecht corner 48- the big dept store.
They changed names and owners recently. This new owner is Jewish.
smartcookieMemberThey were amazing and interesting articles.
Each page was filled with various informative topics.
Did you want them to write about SHIDDUCHIM ONLY????
smartcookieMemberThat store owner is supposed to be a non religious Jew.
What makes you think he’s a non jew?
smartcookieMemberMetro- 48th?
smartcookieMemberYou’re so right Shticky Guy,
This thread was dead, “sigh”,
So prepare your pen
and use your talents again
And keep this thread very high.
smartcookieMemberPlease read the funny Shidduch Stories thread!
smartcookieMemberIt’s always nice to offer a seat, no matter to whom. You can so easily make a Kidduch Hashem.
smartcookieMemberAPY- am I the ONLY ONE? Not at all. But many people don’t know he’s a Yid. And many people don’t know they’re open on Shabbos. Not everyone passes New Utrecht avenue on Shabbos.
smartcookieMemberRuff Ruff, although your computer is not always assigned the same IP address, it usually is the same.
smartcookieMemberDepends on the reason why the parents divorced. If their divorce was ugly, disrepectful, or caused by abuse, then stay away.
These bad Middos and nature to abuse can very likely go over to the children. This is after all what the kids saw all their years.
Many, many times, children from abusive homes, are going to abuse their spouse/kids.
You have to be extremely careful.
December 17, 2010 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm in reply to: How do you let someone know they are not wanted? #718259smartcookieMemberIf he’s a Nebach, just be happy that you are not that Nebach and treat him nicely.
Who are we to say that we don’t like another person.
Of course you may set limits as to how much time you will spend with him.
It doesn’t have to take over your life.
smartcookieMemberThere is no non-Jewish business partner here.
Anyway, I find it hard to believe that this Frei Yid sells his business to a non Jew each week.
Hello? This is BORO PARK! We hardly have stores open here.
I will find out if the owner is in the store on Shabbos.
I’ll keep you posted.
smartcookieMemberAPY- what’s the problem?
smartcookieMemberMetro, no no no. He doesn’t look like a very Heimishe Yid. But he makes himself as though he is.
I don’t know what he does at home, but he’s known as non- religious.
His open store on Shabbos is proof that his whole “Yiddishkeit is bluff”.
The problem is that he acts religious because he wants customers. He makes a minyan in his store, has Mezuzas all over, and puts up a nice show.
smartcookieMemberTell it to someone HE respects so that person will be able to confront him.
smartcookieMemberI once heard that it’s brought down somewhere that a MIL and DIL naturally don’t get along because the DIL takes over the son and continues to take care of him and she gets any furthur Schar.
I’m not sure if this is legit, and if someone knows more about it, please share. It happens to make sense though.
I B”H get along beautifully with my MIL and most people I know also do. So maybe it’s just time for a change in attitude?
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