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sm29Participant
read the threads here lol 🙂
Or read a book, listen to some music, go for a walk, call a friend….
sm29ParticipantNow that the group has gathered, what’s the plan ……..
sm29ParticipantSometimes though, we might talk a lot about it, but don’t do much to apply it. We all make an effort to do nice chesed, but it’s sometimes hard to remember ahava when with people who are different than us hashkafically, because we are focused on their difference and how they are not doing things right.
I’m Not saying don’t argue, It’s good to have discussions. But it should be good discussions where you both learn, understand and grow. Not arguments that just attack and don’t go anywhere. It’s hard and takes self discipline to speak our mind calmly, but people hear us better when the words come from the heart instead of from an attack. – That’s why it’s important to look at the person’s good points we can build that love for our fellow Jew
sm29ParticipantThis thread needs some ketchup, maybe some mayonnaise a bit
sm29ParticipantInteresting input.
Anyway, sorry for throwing people off about the ages. I was probably trying to point out that younger people might not know what older people do and so I was giving tips that really apply to any couple 🙂
communicate
appreciate
Spend time together
sm29ParticipantI can relate to being different. But that’s what makes us special 🙂
Hopefully, bezras Hashem you’ll find people who are similar to you and lift you
sm29ParticipantIn the first sentence, I meant some find someone at 18, while others wait longer. But in any case, it’s good to remember these tips for a strong marriage.
sm29Participanthelp I’m not an apple, I’m a blood orange, just letting you know, now you can eat
sm29ParticipantThe people had no idea what was going on and so they just continued on their way and kept going north until they reached Canada
sm29Participantgood old days
sm29Participanti understand both. It’s hard to wait for someone, I mean a person in general who talks slow, to finish what they are trying to say. But it does give us good practice of patience. It’s hard to not interrupt, but it’s better to wait.
sm29ParticipantI heard that we shouldn’t learn on that night because we don’t want to lift his soul
sm29ParticipantI agree that some people can’t handle so much. We need to listen to these teens. They don’t mean to rebel they just need time and space. We need to be patient. Find a good moment to talk to the teen and ask them what they need and how we can help.
sm29ParticipantIt also breaks my heart. We are a very special family of Yidden.
Worse than antisemitism is fighting each other. At least when others are against us, we have each other and are strong.
It’s also sad when people don’t recognize how special it is to be part of this family. The outside world looks so tempting. But we have something deeper than that. A Divine mission and purpose that connects us to Hashem while bringing light to the world through Torah and Mitzvos. Obviously, we Jews sometimes mess up, and we need to improve our selves. But we can stand back up and go forward. We need to stand together in order to be strong. Like family, we can disagree but still love each other.
sm29ParticipantIf we notice a friend who seems to be slipping and is more lenient than before and is slipping more, we should show them we are still friends. Of course, we should be careful not to be influenced and slip ourself. But just be a good friend who they can talk to.
sm29ParticipantThere definitely needs to be a respect for fellow Jews. Even if we disagree with others, we can still respect them as fellow Jews. While an MO individual is not As strict, they basically follow the general halachot. One’s anger toward a fellow Jew is No better, since we also should consider bein adam l’chavero. We should be a good example to our children and show them that while we don’t hold by the MO hashkafah, we still respect them as fellow Jews.
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The rebellious teen
Another thing I want to mention is the teen themselves. They are going through a transitional time. They can go from a range of emotions like happy, sad, excited, confused, scared. There is so much they want to do like an independent adult, but they are not yet adults, and so they try to do what they can to express themself. That sometimes comes off as rebellious. But they don’t mean to be misbehave. They just don’t know what to do.
Pushing or pressuring them to do what we want, like davening, will only make go further away.
We want to help them, but we have to do it slowly and patiently. When they need to vent out their thoughts, let them vent, and just listen to them. When they are in a Good mood, talk to them and ask them How You Can Help them with what they need emotionally, academically, spiritually………
Some ideas I got from aish.com/f/p/Teenage-Rebel.html
sm29ParticipantThe Chevrah, I’m a Jew
“It’s insane the parade of daily living. It’s not easy, a many can get confused. With the mad demands of constant giving, we feel hopeless just like we are being used. When your day to day life
is a hectic scramble, going crazy, I don’t know what to do. Turn your family around the Shabbos table, singing zemiros, it’s great to be a Jew.
So come and sing with me and dance a little.
I’ll play my guitar and you’ll play the fiddle.
And we’ll thank Hashem who made us a yiddle, shout it out
Ani Yehudi.
Just come and sing we me a song to shamayim, I’ll play my guitar, you’ll clap your yedayim, then we’ll praise Hashem and make a L’chaim, sing it loud, I am so proud, I’m a Jew.
In the course of life a man gets lonely. something is missing, a man can get depressed.
It’s time to turn to the One and Only.
He’ll help you realize that you are truly blessed.
Lend a helping hand to a needy neighbor.
Invite a stranger as a yom tov guest. Be a friend to the widow and the orphan. Remember always that life is but a test.
So come and sing with me and dance a little.
I’ll play my guitar and you’ll play the fiddle. And we’ll thank Hashem who made us a yiddle, shout it out Ani Yehudi.
Just come and sing we me a song to shamayim, I’ll play my guitar, you’ll clap your yedayim, then we’ll praise Hashem and make a L’chaim, sing it loud, I am so proud, I’m a Jew.
Every day a yid should say, “Hey I’m a lucky man. I
was chosen by Hashem to be the best I can.” Then you will find true peace of mind start to sing again.
So come and sing with me and dance a little. I’ll play my guitar and you’ll play the fiddle. And we’ll thank Hashem who made us a yiddle, shout it out Ani Yehudi. Just come and sing we me a song to shamayim, I’ll play my guitar, you’ll clap your yedayim, then we’ll praise Hashem and make a L’chaim, sing it loud, I am so proud, I’m a Jew.”
sm29ParticipantThat must have been very painful to go through, that’s why there needs to be awareness. And something needs to be done. It might seem like nobody cares, but there are individuals who do. They just need to be found
sm29ParticipantOne can pray in their own words saying that they would like to grow but are struggling and need some clarity. And pray please help us Hashem to figure things out so we can move forward in our growth.
There’s a good video By Rabbi Keleman called ‘A Rational Approach to the Torah’s Divine Origin.” On simpletoremember.com
sm29ParticipantSorry to hear about that. I agree that it’s very important for people to know what to say and not say. If it’s something that people don’t need to know like he sings while driving for example, then you leave it up to him to mention later. But if it’s important like his/her hashkafah, and any issues physical or mental, middos, financial situation etc. That should be discussed.
sm29Participantlove this
sm29ParticipantIt helps for people to have positive experiences and so they see and feel the beauty and joy
sm29ParticipantA good way to stay strong is to do it for yourself and your own spiritual health. Don’t let others discourage your spiritual growth.
sm29ParticipantOn the one hand, medicine might help him to be able to focus, which would help with his learning. On the other hand, there are other ways to help him learn without medicine. I personally feel that a natural alternative is better for people. Medicine for focus seems so forceful. But it’s really up to you 🙂 what to do
sm29ParticipantIf they didn’t discuss with each other about what they want and value and believe etc. before marrying, and things come out that they didn’t expect, then they need to have the discussion now. Whereas before marrying, they can decide whether or not to accept it and whether or not to stay.- Now, they generally need to accept it if they want to stay married. I think they can make it work if they are understanding, patient and respectful of each other. They deffinately need to work on communicating and respecting each other. And if they need to, they can have a counselor help them.
sm29ParticipantOn the one hand, if the parents find out information like hashkafa of the both of them and their values and goals and other things, then the two already know that and just need to see if they would like to marry each other or not.
On the other hand, it could be that if they meet only a few times and they are Not interested at first, but then start to be interested, they shouldn’t discontinue because of a time limit. They should go out some more and see if they want to go forward.
Also, sometimes people have certain traits that don’t show up until later. Someone might have a temper that you don’t notice until later. So it’s good to see them in different situations to see how they react.
Of course, you don’t really know someone until you are married, but deffinately look out beforehand for good middos in different situations before marrying
sm29ParticipantI think it depends on the couple. Some people figure it out quickly. Others, need time to figure it out.
May 7, 2013 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm in reply to: Survey, How do you bring Joy of Torah and Mitzvos #951087sm29ParticipantGood point, talking about Hashem and involving Him is an excellent way to bring awareness and build a connection. Plus like you say, knowing why we do what we do helps, so we can do things meaningfully, take care of our neshama and give Him Nachas.
We should remember that the yetzer hara continuously puts hurdles in front of us. And so we should be aware that if we catch ourself screaming about something like “You ruined the milchig fork” pause and remember this is a test, calm down and take care of it calmly
May 7, 2013 10:31 am at 10:31 am in reply to: Survey, How do you bring Joy of Torah and Mitzvos #951085sm29ParticipantAnother example I heard recently on a CD lecture is when people become really involved for cleaning for pesach and forget the spiritual aspect. Screaming about crumbs instead of making it a joyous holiday for instance.
sm29Participanthttp://aish.com http://Torahanytime.com, http://www.breslev.co.il/ and for shemiras halashon, http://chofetzchaim.shemayisrael.com/lesson/lesson2.htm
sm29ParticipantDoing things like arcades is great. You both have fun, plus good memories that you can look back on. You can go to a restaurant and talk, and see if you have common interests and values. You can go for a walk in the park…..
April 11, 2013 6:35 am at 6:35 am in reply to: Survey, How do you bring Joy of Torah and Mitzvos #951084sm29ParticipantVery true. We might naturally focus on the negative people do, rather than the positive. And then kids just see the strictness and not beauty. But if we see their positive acts and compliment that, it encourages them to continue the positive act.
sm29ParticipantI still think that pills is a quick fix when it would be better to give them good nutrition, sleep and exercise
sm29ParticipantWhile medicine can sometimes help with ADD and ADHD, there are drawbacks. I read somewhere that these types of medicines can have a negative side effects both mentally and physically. One article I read mentioned that while the side effects go away, people might become use to the drug and it’s not effective anymore. But if they go off it, the symptoms come back.
I feel that it’s much better to solve the problem. We need to look at the child needs. It could be better nutrition, more exercise, better sleep, etc. Plus, behavioral therapy. This way we help the child both now and in the long run, without negative side effects
March 12, 2013 6:14 am at 6:14 am in reply to: Everything is great, but I'm not sure if there is chemistry! #953718sm29ParticipantPeople sometimes have doubts and are not sure what to do. Part of them wants the person, and part of them feels that there might be someone better. In this situation, one needs time to let it grow and see how you feel. It’s hard to do with a lot of pressure. It’s good to communicate with each other, feelings and thoughts. Let him know you like him, but you need time. If they like you enough, they’ll stay. Also, think carefully about it, but don’t over analyze. IY’H you will figure it out. And pray for clarity.
sm29ParticipantHaQer, lol,:) I like that, that’s cute. I wasn’t born in 1929, Nor am I 29 but early thirties. I had experience dating someone who was divorced. His ex-wife wasn’t serious their marriage and it didn’t work with them. Then he went off, but came back some-what. I also heard things about some others marrying young and it didn’t work.
Of course, there are many where it does work, and if they feel ready to make the commitmant, good. But if they are not ready, they shouldn’t be pushed.
sm29Participantwhile yes it’s good for people to marry young, like in their 20’s when they have an easier time becoming pregnant, and they are Not set in their ways yet like older people. But younger than that like teens is not the best for everyone. While it’s good for some, others are not ready to make that commitment. For example, they might still have the party attitude and Not take things seriously, like staying out late with friends and upsetting their husband/wife, and other issues. People are not as mature as they use to be.
sm29ParticipantDeffinately excellent ideas for quality time and communication. Even just once a week, going somewhere is good.
sm29Participantshana tovah everyone
sm29ParticipantHow is it coming along? Sometimes things take time, but every effort counts.
sm29ParticipantExactly
sm29ParticipantTrue there are many people becoming bt, but that is very little, we are still losing a lot, with both the assimilation of secular Jews and the otd thing with frum Jews. What pains me is that there is answers, people are just not willing to seek different ways. oh well
sm29ParticipantI like how they have different types of Jews and it has some good humor
sm29ParticipantExactly, it might or might Not work if the couple’s relationship is already at a criticle stage. While some can be saved, it’s best to have guidance Before that happens, so you can prevent heartache and frustration. And when challenges come up, the guidance you received helps you know how to deal with things productively and positively.
sm29Participantgreat points, children need positive attention from their parents
sm29ParticipantSomething you can try is thinking of the blessings that you have in your life and feeling grateful.
If you don’t understand the words in the siddur, study beforehand the translation so you know what you are saying and it’s more meaningful.
Imagine yourself in a spiritual realm connecting to Hashem
And pray to Him to help you enjoy
sm29ParticipantFrom what I read on aish.com and from what I heard from a lecture by Rabbi Orlofsky, both mention that a very important factor when deciding who to marry is do you have similar goals and values and similar hashkafa. –
For example, I’m very into kiruv and having Shabbos guests and want my husband to be into it also. Do you want to make aliya? Work or learn or both? Can you live simply or do you want luxury? Think how you want to raise your kids. – when you know what your goals and values are, you look for that in the other.
R’ Orlofsky said something beautiful that the purpose to marry is to build a small mishkan, a home of holiness. Even mundane things like housework can be holy because we are doing what we need to for our home. Plus, each spouse should focus on their own effort, instead of what they expect from the other. And we need to be there for each other in order to be strong
sm29Participanton my dates, we just let the conversation flow. Talk about interests like music etc. Or things going on in our life at the moment. Try to learn some things about each other’s family. It’s mainly a time to learn and become familar with each other, our values, interests, general goals. The heavier stuff comes up when you are both ready and feel that you are both leading somewhere
sm29Participantyep this is deffinately very important
sm29ParticipantActually, the author said that schools focus a lot on learning, which is good, but they also need to work on helping the students to make their davening more meaningful in order to have a better connection to Hashem. While it might seem simple, we still need to work on it. And don’t wait until they fall through the cracks.
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