Good oral genes?

The Chofetz Chaim lived to a ripe old age and said many things verbally that weren’t recorded in his seforim. This is a well known quote from him.

Real life is stranger than fiction.

The Chasidish and Yeshivish attrition rate is very small, compared to other Jewish groups. (I saw this in some study a few years back.)

WTP, you realize, of course, that the safety Hashem provides to living in Eretz Yisroel applies no less to southern Lebanon, trans Jordan, Ramallah, Gaza, Nablus and Jenin (all of which are in Eretz Yisroel) than it applies to Haifa, Tel Aviv, Rishon Letzion, Netanya and Ashdod.

Would you recommend Yidden avoid living there (S. Lebanon, Ramallah, etc.) due to security precautions? If so, why wouldn’t you acknowledge comparative security considerations be considered for living in other parts of EY?

Regarding military casualties, there’s a universal draft applicable to all resident Jews that isn’t applicable to Jews in other countries (as well as a violent conflict that hasn’t ended for the 70 years of the state’s existence), so that is certainly a man-on-the-street concern for Israel.

WTP, I think you are making some good points while also overstating some facts. Israel was digging graves in Israeli parks? Where’d you hear that? Also, Iraq fired dozens of scuds into Saudi Arabia that went nowhere before they got that one hit (like in Israel.) Where’d you read that Rommel occupying Palestine was expected as a forgone conclusion by the British? If your going to compare violent death rates you also need to count Israeli military causalities since ’48. Why are you only using one specific year?

Really what I think people find objectionable is the secular claim that the State is created to be a safehaven for Jews everywhere to escape to in time of crisis. What many of the posters here are pointing out is that this claim could be at least just as easily made by America, Canada or Australia. And that there’s no way to predict whether the next golus threat to Jews will occur on Israel or in America.

As far as concentration, prewar European Jews were spread out over the continent. The State, otoh, is geographically much smaller.

Many Israelis have dual citizenship. Many are American or European by birth or even their parents or grandparents birth there. And are qualified for foreign passports and immediate rights to residency. Grandchildren of Holocaust survivors often have European citizenship whether they’re aware of it or not. And a few years ago some European embassies were reporting a large uptick in applications for passports in Israel.

“While this is getting worked out there is going to be good, sincere people who will be honestly confused.”

This has been “getting worked out” for the past almost 25 years since the Lubavitcher Rebbe zichrona tzaddik l’vrocha’s petira. I don’t think giving it more time will much change the disputed dynamics.

NP

“In the case of the Satmar Rebbe his opinion is regarding the Lubavitcher Rebbe is expressed in writing in Divrai Yoel on Parahas Tzav.”

What does the Satmar Rebbe write in the Divrei Yoel on Parahas Tzav regarding the Lubavitcher Rebbe?

NP

“I do not agree with what you wrote regarding The Satmar Rebbes and HaRav Hutners position. Their opposition is well publicized. Anyone who is so inclined is welcome have a look and decide for themselves.”

Where should we look for ourselves? What was the opposition, specifically, from the SR and from RYH (and where did they put it on the record)?

Can anyone confirm whether the Lubavitcher Rebbe taught the following teachings, that I was told are his teachings…

* A Rebbe is G-d in a body

* Lubavitchers, and only Lubavitchers, don’t have to sleep in a Sukkah

* The Alter Rebbe was on a higher level of Pnimuyus HaTorah than Rav Yochanan ben Zakai

* The Bais Hamikdash will not be built in Eretz Yisroel but in 770 and then transported to Eretz Yisroel, since 770 is “the place of Moshiach”

* Not to teach the non-Lubavitch public his shittos that will make the public distant themselves from Lubavitch

When it’s been pointed out that various gedolim and rabbonim are on the record as opposing the modern theological positions of Lubavitch, many of the Lubavitchers here (and elsewhere) use the comeback that “well, the early Chasidim were opposed and the Rambam was opposed early on, and this is the same type of opposition to Lubavitch’s current doings.”

But the gedolim and rabbonim also opposed the early Reform movement and the haskala. So who is to say the current rabbinic opposition to the views currently espoused by Lubavitch is comparable to the opposition against the early Chasidim and Rambam. Perhaps it is more comparable to the opposition to the Reform and haskala.

SHY, CS, MS and any other Lubavitcher present,

I asked a few questions, that I think are strong or problematic, that none of you have addressed:

Post # 1414876:

Mesichists Explained by ChabadShlucha

Post # 1414780:

Mesichists Explained by ChabadShlucha

Are these questions unanswerable?

If 6000 c’v passes without Moshiach having yet arrived, will that cause a large scale question of faith within Klal Yisroel?

And if Moshiach does come before 6000, what will happen to the world in 6000 and/or after year 7000?

RSo: For what rational reason do you believe that Avraham Avinu existed, if your answer cannot be based on quoting the Torah as your source?

couldbe: That isn’t an accurate assertion. Many quotes were provided earlier in the thread of Litvishe-Yeshivishe gedolim saying the Lubavitcher Rebbe was a tzaddik/great man.

Why does Lubavitch make such a big deal from winning the machlokes with the Rebbe’s nephew and getting the seforim back in the library, that they’ve turned that day every year into an official Yom Tov? Isn’t it embarrassing to every year revive memories of an internal dispute?

Also, why does it seem that Lubavitch has had disputes with an unusually large number of other frum kehilos, both Chasidic and non-Chasidic (Satmar, Brisk?, Chaim Berlin, Ponovitch)?

On a lighter note, how can you tell the difference between a Lubavitcher’s hat and a Yeshivisher’s hat?

If one person, all on his own, has a a clear belief that Reb Moshe Feinstein is vadai Moshiach, is he violating anything or doing anything wrong?

Is it historically accurate to say that Lubavitch were the first in America to do a lot of kiruv and all the other groups were Johnny come lately’s who merely followed in Lubavitch’s way, and wouldn’t have gone where they did if not for Lubavitch?

Little Froggie – I had some questions for you up above.

Is Yafutzu some kind of Lubavitch term/code call-for-arms for warriors to gather at a place of battle? (:

If shailos several times per week is what many people are accustomed to, wouldn’t all pulpit rabbonim, or whoever is answering these shailos, be very busy every day answering many many shailos? Especially if they have a large congregation.

A shul with even just 50 regular mispallelim each calling their Rov several times a week should keep the Rov occupied close to full-time just answering shailos. Is this the common busy-ness of most rabbonim who answers shailos? If he has 100 regulars he probably has to stay up late each night answering all the shailos.