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@Pekak I wouldn’t ever classify myself as “ehrlich”, not my type of thing to do. But yes, I think that if it was accepted that a bochur would have to go out with 5 girls (video is fine) then there is more of a chance that they will see past their wallet and the yichus that they may be counting on. I had never spoken to a girl in my life casually when I started in shidduchim. I just went with the first one i was set up with. She had money and yichus. I knew her for 2 weeks. I had a lousy marriage and I’m now divorced. I wish I had some better basis for knowledge when I was dating.
Boys and girls should have to go on 5 first dates with different people before they go on a second date. Big, little, older, younger, richer, poorer. Maybe they will open their eyes to a little more than who their parents have been waiting to set up as the perfect shidduch. They should also have to go out with a girl they like, for more than a minute. It would be nice if a guy had to go through rigorous midos training until he gets the go ahead from someone certified. People could learn from covid to make weddings with 100 people in a pretty back yard. It’s too complex for anyone to get a grasp on. It is what it is and it will continue that way until Moshiach comes.
It’s a broken system. They were talking about the shidduch crisis for many years now. It’s not going to change. It’s only getting worse. We have gen z bochurom who think the world is coming to them and who’s parents enable them. Many are entitled kids who need everything immediately. They aren’t taught the value of hard work and believe they deserve to be supported and stay in kollel. Then you have parents who act like children. The things people look for can be so fleeting and childish. The bottom line is leadership of which it seems we don’t have much of anymore. It’s a broken system.
Everyone got away from the initial question.
Is it possible that they are impeaching Trump because it is the right thing to do? That for generations to come children should see that actions have ramifications? It has nothing to do with them being scared. That said, it’s a bad game plan. They should let him be tried and convicted for his crimes so that he’ll have to campaign from jail like shabsai Tzvi.Health – It would be funny if YWN would put a block akin to Twitter on all the craziness posted here about the election. You’d never have a post published.
He did not condemn any of the forces of evil and hate that had been growing quickly under his watch. I’m tact he stoked the flames.
Why would we assume there was only fraud on one side of the aisle? And why weren’t the fraudulent ballots democrat across the board? And why would republicans certify election results that didn’t favor their candidate? And why would republican appointed judges (many by DT)throw out any case presented to them? It all doesn’t make any sense to me?
smerel, I appreciate you using the idea of “cognitive dissonance” to describe your anti trump friend. Let’s be real though, there is cognitive dissonance on both sides. In fact, most republican politicians while they might not use those words exactly, will tell you that Mr. Trump is the king of cognitive dissonance and/or gas lighting if he in fact does have clarity of what he’s lying about. This does trickle down to the tumpers.
As a general rule (outside of abortion), I don’t believe that Torah or religion should drive a politicians position. It would beg the question of where do we draw the line. Should we lobby shatnez being illegal to wear? Why can’t one argue against milah, that it should be a persons choice? Is it sheva mitzvos? Is it just what we consider foundations to Yiddishkeit? What dictates when we COULD impose the Torah’s views and/or when we SHOULD impose the Torah’s views.
This is not a cynical question. I am actually interested in peoples thoughts about this.ujm – and working on our midos and doing small acts of kindness to others. Being the best parent, sibling, spouse and child. Being honest. Focus on unity and not division etc… Love our neighbors.
It’s not just learning Torah.I absolutely agree with you prophet. We are way too comfortable. We can definitely be turned on. It has started already with the rise of white supremacy. They are the number 1 cause of terrorism in the country right now.
Health – It’s over! Trump and the GSA has told Biden that he can start with the transition. It’s done. Stop being a child already. Whether or not you are right (which you are so ridiculously wrong), Biden is the president elect and will be signed in on 1/20.
You’re fired!Does Moishe’s move people to Federal prison?
Health, they debunked the claim that the republicans couldn’t see the count. That said, do you think 600,000 mail in ballots went to Biden simply because they couldn’t see it? There is no common sense in that and there are cameras all over the room? lol
Jewish common sense –
1) There was no state at 99% that turned for Biden.
2) There were states that did that for Trump as well.
3) Explain how PA went from 600,000 up by Trump to losing. What happened at midnight, that the counters randomly found hundreds of thousands of votes for Biden. Wouldn’t it have been smarter for democrats to somehow mix them all up in the beginning then doing such obvious fraud?
4) Are you saying that there was this concerted effort between numerous states to somehow go democrat all of a sudden. Somehow they all did it at the same time.
5) Why wouldn’t they vote democrat for all candidates? Why did republicans win so many other races that everyone thought democrats would win?
6) You don’t even have to be a gemara kup to answer this. It is the same answer for all these states. What did they count first? Election day votes or mail in and absentee ballots? In all traditionally blue states that they counted election day votes first, Biden gained on Trump later and vice versa.
Do you realize that all these states traditionally go blue and they were won by peanuts for Trump in 2016? This time it went the other more common way.
Is this too logical for you? Are you going to come back with some new wacky theory?gadolha, tell me that one about eating ballots is a joke. Please. I can’t stop laughing.
Everyone forgets that it’s like a casino, it has cameras all throughout the room.
“They’ve been doing it with observation, the press is here to watch it, there’s cameras everywhere. So this is a very, very transparent process,” Fitzgerald (Allegheny County Executive) had said. Honestly, it’s the red necks and a good portion of frum Jews that seem to go for this nonsense. People don’t realize that Fox News is just like the rest of the media, they create stories so they can jack up interest and keep people watching. It’s fake news just the same.
People eating ballots. I love it.jewish common sense, I so agree with you. Trump was up by 600,000 votes and there was a 2 hour break and the democrats went out and gathered seven hundred thousand fake votes that no one noticed. Even though there were cameras in the room, they were probably covered. It wasn’t because they first counted election day votes which was predominantly republican and then went to absentee and early voting which was predominantly democrat. That makes no sense at all.
There was only one state that claimed the issue with republican pollwatchers not seeing the voting. That was debunked that night. Do a google search. Oops, the entire internet is liberal. That won’t work.ujm, you still haven’t explained why in the battleground states that went to Biden, most of the statewide voting went in favor of republicans. That as well as the house gaining republican seats and retaining it’s repubican reps. There’s only one explanation, republicans turned on Trump. They didn’t turn on their party.
Your primary accusation about the poll watchers in PA was debunked the next day by Trumps own attorneys and reporters on Fox News. Just do a quick google search. I don’t need to explain.It was funny when Trumpers in Michigan were yelling “Stop the Count” and at the same exact time, Trump supporters in Arizona were screaming “Count every vote”. lol
You’re all so silly.
@smerel “If everything about Trump as a person was the same but he was on the Democratic side of the equation and Mike Pence (from the most moral of all people in American politics today) was on the Republican side , the media and the people lecturing to us about how terrible Trump is now would all be enthusiastically supporting him instead.”
I can’t speak for everyone, but for me and many of my associates, this is absolutely false. To explain and also respond to the idea that it’s the media making Trump look bad; no one has to say anything. He demonstrates all of his bad behavior himself! He’s a bully. A liar. A pervert. Self serving. Does not admit wrong. Doesn’t apologize. He mocks anyone that disagrees. He has little or no empathy. He has fired people for doing their job. Just about all his friends have been put in jail. Over 100,000 new cases of Covid have hit this country daily this past week. He is playing golf. Again, he has no empathy at all. So to answer your question, if he was a democrat (which arguably he was when he donated a ton of money to the Clintons and other democratic candidates), I would never ever vote for someone like him. I have voted both democrat and republican over the last 8 elections that I have been able to vote. I would reverse your logic and say that it is you who have been influenced by the media.
I just heard Biden speak. What a mentsch. He has gratitude. Grace. Empathy. Love and care. He is a religious man who has maintained his faith through tragedy. I have a lot of hope for our communities and country. I look forward to the future Mishebairach for our new president.
The fraudulent voters did magic. They lied and stole votes from president Trump but for senators and congressman they were ok voting republican. lol
Even republican politicians are on Fox News saying that there is no evidence of fraud that can overturn the election. McConnell and Graham are some of them.
He will not be president. He has no hold over anyone anymore. They finally feel like the chokehold is gone. Every day more and more will turn against him. His base isn’t even out protesting. They know what nonsense this is.
As for the uneducated and blind YWN Trump supporters, have fun wasting the next few months following the nonsense that will come of nothing.At everyone, if you know Halacha, what Clinton did , is not adultery. Not that it matters in this argument. I didn’t vote for him.
@health its ironic you call yourself ‘health’, overcoming addiction is one of the greatest accomplishments a person can have. Same with George w bush.
I also never said I’m voting for Biden. I’m certainly not using the Torah to tell us to do so.
I truly believe that Trump is Fanning the flames of Amalek and it will get more intense if he gets voted in.
By the way he just essentially opened the door to violence in PA he’s sick.They are all blind.
It’s ironic how these current parshiyos are about this red man who was void of every positive attribute except for Kibud Av. He tried to look like a tzaadik, and according to many seforim fooled Yitzchok. In truth he was entirely self serving and steeped in gashmiyus. He became the one who bore amalek and haman and quite possibly the nazi’s and white supremicists.
Well my friends. Sound familiar? There is a message for us. Trump is the Esav. We are supposed to be the Yaakov that can see past this, but it appears that we (and gedolim) are blind and being fooled yibadel like he fooled Yitzchak.
The only difference I can see is that this evil man is orange, not red.
It’s ironic how these current parshiyos are about this red man who was void of every positive attribute except for Kibud Av. He tried to look like a tzaadik, and according to many seforim fooled Yitzchok. In truth he was entirely self serving and steeped in gashmiyus. He became the one who bore amalek and haman and quite possibly the nazi’s and white supremicists.
Well my friends. Sound familiar? There is a message for us. Trump is the Esav. We are supposed to be the Yaakov that can see past this, but it appears that we (and gedolim) are blind and being fooled yibadel like he fooled Yitzchak.
The only difference I can see is that this evil man is orange, not red.
It’s ironic how these current parshiyos are about this red man who was void of every positive attribute except for Kibud Av. He tried to look like a tzaadik, and according to many seforim fooled Yitzchok. In truth he was entirely self serving and steeped in gashmiyus. He became the one who bore amalek and haman and quite possibly the nazi’s and white supremicists.
Well my friends. Sound familiar? There is a message for us. Trump is the Esav. We are supposed to be the Yaakov that can see past this, but it appears that we (and gedolim) are blind and being fooled yibadel like he fooled Yitzchak.
The only difference I can see is that this evil man is orange, not red.