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Bringing in Dan L’kaf Zechus might be irrelevant, because it is only required when the person is not “muchzak”(established) to be a rasha. Some of the things he addmitted to doing might make him “muchzak” as a rasha. However, one could argue that “ein adom meisim atzmoh rasha”(a person is not believed to make himself a rasha) and we therefore must consider him a beinonei(non-rasha and non-tzadik). Anyone know what the halacha is?
Bobbys Cow: I didn’t mean that it is good for everyone’s middos. There are always exceptions. Most guys that I know who have asked their rabbeim were told that it was good for their middos. Also, I have heard from rabbeim that doing things that may increase gaava isn’t something to worry about, because one who is a baal gaava will have it anyway, so they may as well do the right thing.
While collecting may be hard for some bochurim, it is very good chinuch hamussar. It really helps break some of your bad middos. It also is a way of being makir tov to the yeshiva that is giving you your ruchnies, often through rabbeim who get paid very little or not at all.
I went collecting for my yeshiva this year in a out-of-town city and made $5,000 in six days. If u can find me a job like that, I would greatly appreciate it. popa is right. There is only about a week and a half to work, and no one will hire two yeshiva guys for that short amount of time and pay them decent money.
The decision was made after many years of hocking, and the roshei yeshiva met with the roshei yeshiva in Queens before making the final call. Tiferes Yisroel was loosing many of the best, and recently the second best, students from their 8th grade. I was told that the level of the shiurim has been slowly dropping for years. People are choosing other, similar, middle-of-the-road yeshivas that offer solid general studies because they are viewed as “shtarker”.
yitayningwut, very well said.
aries2756, they kept it private so that people who are lacking daas torah, and don’t have any business paskining such important shaiylos, shouldn’t attack them for not saying to go to the police in all cases, with or without any basis.
aries2756, when I wrote “minimal investigation of the basic facts”, I meant that there is some minimal evidence, or in your words, “raglaim ledavar” to support the accusations. The Rav I heard it from is not from, Brooklyn and that is why he said the police and not the DA.
I heard that there was a closed-door meeting at the Agudah convention for rabbonim, and that the general consensus leaned strongly towards going to the police after a minimal investigation of the basic facts. The people who cover-up abuse are NOT following daas torah.