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Max well, may as violate shabbos, kashrus, THM and everything else since I have no olam haba. So that you for elucidating. I’ll now go to the cafeteria dress scantily cladd and eat a bacon cheeseburger.
BPTotty, I haven’t noticed anything wrong with Iron Chef. Its a competitive cooking show that’s amazing. Gives you new ideas on what to cook.
There is filth on TV. There is filth on the radio. There is filth on internet.
Use it responsibly.
mbachur, for some reason, I cant see certain pages on this post. Its wierd.
If Kol Kevuda is halacha, how do you send women out to work, even for men to sit and learn.
Also, no one ever answered if a persons yard (and women congregating there) is considered chatzer. AFAIK, women are allowed to “hang out” in the chatzer.
There are a lot of secular studies (as pointed out above) that are beneficial in learning Torah. Math, basic biology, chemistry, physics…sure, you don’t need to read Shakespeare, but basic English (grammar, comprehension etc) is important. History of America is important to understand the chesed of this country and how we fit in.
I don’t know why this is so controversial.
Is there room in anyone’s house? Do a potluck – everyone brings a dish and no one has to do all the work.
A relative of mine did this for her family: Every person got a page in a photobook – she did one at kodak.com. It was a beautiful album of all their loved ones, and they each wrote a statement on their page (printed on) on what they watned to say to their parents/grandparents.
Max well, yes.
Smartcookie, I can tell you that where I grew up, yes, it makes people happy. When people moved into our neighborhood and didn’t say “Good Shabbos” it created animosity.
Even Laura Ingalls Wilder wanted name cards.
Its normal for kids to want “what everyone else has.” The key is to teach them the value of items, the cost of them and the hardwork to obtain it.
I understand that Wolf.
Hopefully I will never be in that situation. I would rather kill myself and let my children eat me though. Assuming my husband is around to care for them.
I can’t imagine this is true. I know someone who was given a heter to have a homeopathic remedy made with some pig product (I don’t know if it were pig flesh or a derivative) because of a disease they had.
And I can’t imagine eating my child. I would rather kill myself first. I don’t judge them because I can’t imagine a situation where I would think it would be approrpriate.
Thank you Squeak.
It was an interesting opening though and I learnt a lot. I’m still embarrased about that though 🙁
OK, but I need your measurements.
Do you forgive me for looking up the opening?
LOL Squeak.
Want to play another game?
I have a confession. I did look into my chess book for that opening (bows head in shame). Its been eating at me for a while. I won’t do that again.
If you axe Yeshiva tuition ($15,000/child) I could figure out a way to be a SAHM. So if someone wants to do that, then sure, I would love to.
Working gives me luxuries and savings, but I work because I have to, not because I want to. So I’m assuming since mtornek was being judgemental and wants to stop working mothers, he’ll step up to the plate and commit to paying my Yeshiva tuition.
mtornek, are you offering to pay for my kids yeshiva tuition? I would LOVE to stay home with them.
Just because some people excuse thier indiscretion by saying “Oh I am MO” doesn’t make them MO.
I know some yeshivish and some chassidish people who go mixed swimming “on vacation.” Does that mean they are MO? Of course not!
Rav Soloveitchik is one of the pillars of MO.
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Says who, you are wrong. MO is about a Torah Umada philosophy. The piskei halacha within MO reflect the philosophy (based on Torah of course).
Same with Chassidus, Yeshivish, etc.
Says who, yes, MO rabbonim allow TV as long as its within a certain spectrum. No MO Rabbi I know of allows anything and everything on TV.
Are you saying that one psak makes a movement?
Says who, does that mean every yeshivish person who has a TV is actually MO? Or Chassidish person? (I know quite a few in each category)
What about the Yeshivish or Chassidish people who don’t have a TV, but watch TV shows or movies on their computers? Are they MO?
Or does it mean that my MO friends who don’t have a TV are actually not MO?
Mbachur, I meant on Shabbos.
As for that story – I have no idea. But one bad rabbi does not negate an entire movement. Otherwise, no movement would be spared. Is it possible he meant that since it was a drabbanan, we have the ability to be more lenient? What is that phrase – safek d’oraita l’chumra, safek d’rabbanan l’kula?
Modern Orthodox = Torah Umada (in general).
It has nothing to do with mixed swimming in bathing suits, not covering hair or other nonsense. A modern orthodox person may do those things, but that is NOT what defines modern orthodoxy. A yeshivish person can do all of the above.
I text my sister because she is deaf. Is that supposed to be assured?
I’m with g73. I’m not sure what you want from them.
A shul is primarily about services (davening and such) but is secondarily a community. Its why I shlep my two little kids to shul every shabbos, even though I don’t go in. I think its important to be a part of a community.
Again, MO is a philosophy. The same way Chassidus is a philosophy. Oomis is 100% MO [I’m assuming Oomis believes in the Torah UMada philosophy].
I know yeshivish people who don’t daven everyday and MO people who learn constantly. I know Chassidish people who violate halacha and MO people who would never dare. [And vice versa to all those]
Someone who calls themselves MO and watches TV on shabbos is just breaking halacha. They are not doing so because they are MO, they are doing so because they are breaking halacha. They may be using it as an excuse. That’s it. I’ve never heard of a MO Rabbi who says its ok to watch TV (or go mixed swimming in a bathing suit or other things).
Each community has unique problems.
Philosopher, Rav Falk’s book contains many, many chumras. Just because people follow his shittah, does NOT change that.
There are rabbonim who assur ALL forms of sheitels (including Rav Elyashiv).
The halacha is that a woman is required a head or hair covering (depending on the shittah). Lenght, style etc has to be taken on a case by case basis. Should curly sheitels be outlawed? After all, they do attract more attention.
If we assured anything that attracted attention, women would have to be locked up. I don’t know the last time you were on the subway and saw a chassidish women (especially in the summer) but I can tell you they attract a lot of stares.
If everyone is wearing metallic shoes, no one will really notice because its not eye catching. Same with bright colors.
Conclusion: Women should dress in brown homespun gowns with turtlenecks, long sleeves, 70 denier minimum stockings and a snood.
Sof, the reason to cover hair is because the hair on your head is erva. Its not to make you look less attractive.
Modern Orthodoxy is a haskafa. In practice, MO people run the gamut. So do Yeshivish people. So do Chassidish people.
I am MO and proud of it.
Philosopher, there are varying opinions as to where shok ends. Some say above the knee. Some say mid knee. Some say below the knee. Some say below the shin.
Point being, if a woman’s skirt rides up to show a little bit of knee, she still may be tzanua. Sort of like with head coverings.
Philosopher, I am part of the “unmentionable” group. From the girls I know who dated late teens/early 20s and met their spouses on their own, most were 100% ehrlich.
But then again some of my yeshivish friends told me of some non ehrlich things the’ve done.
Behind closed doors, you don’t know anything.
Sof, not according to what I’ve learnt. I don’t remember where, its been a long time. But shok is NOT clear cut in halacha.
Because Wolf is logical, smart and clearheaded.
Arc, many people gain a lot from seminary. They still galavant around Israel. Most seminaries take them on trips all over the place. Its not really a negative, but I don’t see any reason why seminary in Israel would become “mandatory.”
GAW, regarding front yards. And women hanging out in them.
WIY, you are sort of right and sort of wrong. While yes, if its not tzanua, then it isn’t, but according to many poskim, if the bottom part of your knee shows, its not really erva. So if someone wears a skirt that fully covers in 95% of situations, and brushes up a little for the other 5%, its not untzanua, but its not really tzanua. Do you understand the distinction?
GAW, can you define what halachically is chatzer?
Arc, there are good local seminaries in Brooklyn (well, local for many people). A year galavanting in Israel is NOT necessary.
GAW – I think I can explain the young married women thing.
They are finally free. They make their own decisions. No more mother or teacher breathing down their neck. So when they go shopping and the skirt is borderline – its ok, because they’ll be careful. Or, they’ll wear tights so you can’t really tell. Etc, etc, etc. And everyone else is doing it, so its not really wrong…
I’m not judging them, my level of tznius could use a boost. I understand the draw though.
Sof, also, anyone who needs (or want :-/) a scholarship for local schools gets them. People don’t get seminary scholarships for the most part.
Fasting was tough because I’m nursing so I was so thirsty.
Otherwise, meaningful.
I haven’t used any of them, but I would go for the iPad if money isn’t an issue. You will get just as much functionality plus more.
I’ve heard that books for the Kindle are cheaper, but I don’t know if that’s true.
Rescue, that might be PETA’s next campaign!
Sof, if you look at the expensive schools in the US, they are either MO or in really expensive areas (like LA). MO schools generally have excellent education, expensive buildings (including labs, gyms etc) and well trained staff in both limudei kodesh and limudei chol. When you require your Chumash teacher to have a bachelors, their salary goes up which in turn makes tuition rise.
In addition, salaries are lower in Israel. So whereas a teacher might get $50,000/year here, in Israel they would probably get $30,000/year.
Unless you are talking about a school like Midreshet Harova or Hakotel, I can’t imagine why it would be so expensive.
Also, a lot of my friends told me that many meals were not covered.
I personally don’t think seminaries should get flack for expenses because it IS a luxury. This current generation views everything as a *need* rather than a want. Its absurd. Need: food, shelter, clothing.
I usually wear a hat to daven in shul but never a jacket.
1) Most NY area schools are not $15,000+
2) Seminary is a luxury that people are trying to make necessary. So its hard for a family with a lot of kids to afford it and people complain.
3) It *should* be cheaper to run a school in Israel, especially since it just has Judaic studies, no secular.
During the fast recipe:
Air
Oomis, I do my best! I wear sandals as long as the weather allows (so April to October)
What halachically defines “chatzer”? I thought it was a personal courtyard area. I am not 100% sure it has to be enclosed.
Where is GAW today?
mbachur, what I learnt in high school (and it was limited mind you, so I’m sort of waiting for GAW to chime in) was that women were normally in the chatzer. They hung their laundry and watched their kids and churned butter and all sorts of things out there.