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1. When you actually have a valid excuse as to why you were late to Friday night davening.
2. When you come to the realization that believe it or not, yungerlight do NOT have a monopoly on happiness.
SecularFrummy – I can’t fathom the pain and embarrassment that your family has had to endure since this Rav made a negative comment about an exercise class (!). I’m assuming you’re familiar with many of his shiurim and heard that particular shiur in its entirety before writing him off, huh?
I think from now on, any Rabbi who makes fun of the Mets should be stripped of their title and his speeches should be blocked from my computer.
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Very well said.
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Nice. 🙂
To mw13 or to whomever I’ve apparently inadvertently offended…
1. There’s a problem that most bochurim are naive and don’t realize what it’s like to raise a family and the financial responsibilities that it entails. They therefore go without a plan. If someone truly has a realistic plan (aside for draining their parents’ savings), wonderful. Otherwise, it’s pretty difficult to be qualified to do much without a degree. I’m not asking anyone to be like me.
2. I did NOT say “ALL boys enrolled in yeshiva are like that…”, I said “MANY who fit that ‘mold'”, so there’s certainly no stereotype. Don’t twist my words. It’s a fact that many of these girls end up dating those type of guys, there are no generalizations being made.
Of course I did not give them a spelling or grammar test. I was partially kidding about that, but my impression is based on various signs I’ve seen posted in yeshivos throughout the years (as well as many posts and comments on this site). Many are quite embarrassing.
3. I have a secret for you: I’m not modern, I actually spend my mornings in a kollel. Nice try. On the other hand, I have picked up (and read!) a college textbook in my lifetime, so perhaps I can’t consider myself Orthodox…
In this day and age, especially with all the Touro programs and even online programs, it is inexcusable for a man or woman not to pursue a degree of some sort. Nobody’s asking you to spend 4 years in a coed dorm in order to receive an education. So I am therefore certainly an advocate for girls who are educated and who acknowledge an importance in being qualified at whatever their profession may be.
However, perhaps a problem may lie in what these girls are looking for in a guy. I would venture to assume that quite often a wonderful, driven girl with dual masters degrees, etc. is looking for a “talmud chacham” or “huge masmid” (which is completely fine, of course, to want that in a husband, as long as you’re both legitimate and are realistically prepared for that lifestyle). But unfortunately, these girls quickly feel(shockingly)that they seem to be more advanced or perhaps at a different stage in life than these guys. Well, what do you expect? Most of the guys who fit this “mold” cannot pass a 5th grade spelling or grammar test, nor can they speak above a mumble or without forcefully inserting random Yiddish and Aramaic words out of context.
I’m fairly certain that my ideas and opinions will never change the world, but… 1. Girls- perhaps it may help if girls are more cognizant of the type of guys they claim to be interested in and then learn to cope with the complete package. Meaning: that if an educated, well-rounded, worldly guy is important to you, then it may be time to pardon all those “inferior” boys who are not in brand name yeshivos and find yourself someone who fits you and your stage of life better. 2. Boys- You will not have a very fulfilling life if you were to marry an illiterate imbecile. So just be thankful that there are a plethora of hard-working, motivated, educated girls out there.