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  • in reply to: Why don't the Rabbonim enforce Tznius? #967211
    simbin
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    Look all of you, it’s no secret that tznius standards went way down among the bnei Torah community, as it seems this thread is spesificaly discussing. If the way to go about enforcing standards is that rabbinic should tell women what to wear, probably not. But 2 things, 1) don’t underestimate the issue, don’t mock anyone who is interested in raising awareness in this area, 2) souls Kollels can have any standard they want. (Not that it’s mart to accept a husband based on his wife’s dress code) if its too hard to keep basic tznius, that’s a nisayon that has to be worked on, not s something to be proud of that “I can wear what I want, cuz no-one can tell me not to”.

    That being said, there is a famous schmooze by Reb Volba, in which there was a big tayva (in his time) for women to wear mini skirts. He told the yeshiva guys that the reason their wives want to wear this skirts is because tau guts( the yeshiva guys) want them too, and although you don’t tell them outright, they feel what you want subconsciously, so it seems its the kollel guys and husbands that really need to be the ones to work on how they would like ther wife to dres. The wife is not to blame, a wife naturally wants to please her husband.

    (Btw this is something I’mstrugling Wth myself – I’m not trying to enforce anything onto anybody, just sayin’)

    in reply to: Can rishonim be wrong? #957045
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    Oy! I don’t know here you guys were educated, but argumentation DOES NOT MEANthat one side is wrong, especially in Torah! Also, Achronim are not only in existence if Rishonim argue.

    Finally, my point was that even if Rishonim could be wrong, there is NOBODY today that can say that, unless some other Rishon said it.

    Im Rishonim k’malachim, anu k’bnei adam. Im Rishonim k’bnei adam, anu kachamorim.

    in reply to: IDF #956134
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    Avi K, thats another major point, but unfortunately not anything the government is interested in right now 🙂

    in reply to: IDF #956133
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    Sam2, Again “army” and “share the burden” are 2 subjects. You very nicely listed off many dati l’umi Gedolim which is fine. They are pro army, thats not the topic here, the topic at hand is “sharing the burden” where the government controles the life of (almost) all b’nei Torah. You indicated yourself that you aren’t sure what some of these Rabbis hold – are you sure about the others?

    If you are, and you generally follow those Rabonim in hashkafic matters, then kol hakavod you have nothing to worry about as the government is doing everything it could to implement the Peri law :).

    The issue is when ppl who are influenced by the media (which is a tactic they’ve been working ’round the clock on) and not followers of any of the Rabonim you mentioned in any other matter, suddenly say how Rabbonim who say don’t go to the army don’t know what they’re saying. As writersoul, so beautifully brought out my point by writing ” “the gedolim” may all be great, but if these people happen not to follow their psak in this matter, “

    I think my point is taken and there is no need to try and rationalize.

    in reply to: IDF #956130
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    writersoul, you’ve said what I said in diferent words. One may pick and choose which psak he feels comfortable with. If a gadol says s/t and I like it, I do what he said even if I don’t do anything else from him. In other words, I’m as good and as smart as great Torah giants, and I decide when they are makin sense, and when they’re being over the top.

    Besides, can you (or most yeshivish/charedi) young men even know the name of /gedolim that they are supposedly going acording to?

    Is it Rabbi Piron?? or maybe its just the Israeli goverment

    in reply to: IDF #956128
    simbin
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    Sam2,

    The issue here isnt the “army” it’s about the “share the burden”storm. I am well aware of gedolim being pro frum guys going to the army, but thats not “sharing the burden” which doesent give any one a choice.

    That being said, my question was that I dont think alot of ppl arguing with the main stream gedolim, are arguing because they’re backed up by other gedolim, at least that part isn’t public, (and I’m okay with Dati L’umi – if that is their backing). I think it’s just feel they are equal in understanding the situation just as the Gedolum are, and they don’t like the Gedolims understanding of the situation.

    Correct me if I’m wrong.

    in reply to: Maalot Dafna jerusalem #953772
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    Hi, I hope u have a lot of hatzlocha, and u should maybe go to maalot Dafna for a shabbos to check it out. My husband and I lived there for a year and we were barely recognized, ppl didn’t say hello,ppl who we saw every day, I sat in the park often alone others would sit alone also Untill their friend came or s/t. My husband couldn’t stand going to shul and no one saying good shabbos to him, you have to be part of “their e group” to fit in. We were absolutely miserable there we left with a bad taste of that neighborhood. The location is however very central, although ramat eshkol, Arzei, and sanhedria are just as central, good luck with all.

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