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dveykus613,
” I do think the American rabbonim did not because they don’t want to make a psak that “h’olam lo yachol la’amod bahem”
Agreed.
As far as filtering, the venishmartem website gives the various filtering options for smartphones. I think it’s poshut that there is no way any sane person could think that having unfiltered internet on his phone could possible be ratzon Hashem. There no way that 99% of people won’t be nichshal. “Ma yaaseh haben velo yecheto”.
dveykus613,
To be fair, American Rabbonim did not forbid smartphones. Which is why I only switched to a kosher phone when I moved to E”Y. (Once I had, however, I definitely wished I had done it before…)
When I lived in the U.S., I had a Samsung I8000 Omnia (HD 8GB) which I was very happy with. Then I moved to E”Y and upgraded to a kosher phone. No instant email, no internet etc. My family life improved incredibly. And what do you know, my business didn’t even suffer…
Best phone I ever got.
What were the tzedukim’s and Karaites Tefillin? How would they know what tefillin are if they didn’t accept Torah Shel Baal Peh?
It’s a sad but true fact that in order to further their own agenda, people will say things in the name of gedolim which those gedolim never said.
Unless there’s a clear written source, there’s no reason to believe R. Elyashiv ever said something like that.
“It is not worth it if it pushes away yidden from yiddishkeit.”
And it is so worth it when it’s mekarev Yidden. There’s an organization in E”Y which tries to take over the official Halacha shiur which non-religious kallos must take in the rabbanut and turn it into an incredible, beautiful experience for the kalla. They currently teach about 15% of the non-religious kallos in E”Y and have been mekarev thousands of young couples this way…
The main Flemish Belgian Jewish news site says the rumors about the Friedmans having left Antwerp are seemingly untrue, as the family was seen walking around antwerp.
icot,
thanks for the French post. Best laugh I had all day 🙂
I noticed that everyone is ignoring zeeskite’s mention of Shlomis bas Divri, so I figured I’d mention it again.
Shlomis bas Divri.
nonononononooooooooo please dont start this topic again…!!!
MODS please close this before we have another allout war between the “leftist modern shkotzim” and the “right-wing irrational fanatics”, which as we all know are the only two types of people in this forum.
no.
I was once told by someone that Rav Neventzahl said in the name of Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach that there is an oral tradition going back to the Gra that Avraham ben Avraham’s sacrifice tremendously weakened the cochos hatumah in the world, to the point where one does not have to be makpid on 4 amos. Incredulously, I asked one of Reb Shomo Zalman’s sons about this, and he confirmed it to me!
I have found this thread to be a very interesting discussion with interesting taanos on both sides.
Which is why it’s unfortunate that some of the posters fall back on a cheap shot like accusing those who disagree with them being Joseph.
Unless you have proof, try to not mix in irrelevant accusations.
And so, YWN lost its last vestiges of “Yeshivishness” with a forum thread (started by a moderator no less) about a series of goyishe books which have inappropriate content.
Who are the Rabbonim who support YWN again…?
P.S: Yes, I read the books and enjoyed them. But YWN is not the place for it…
golfer,
Your comment is entirely irrelevant, hateful, spiteful and totally not to the point. The percentage of chareidim burning dumpsters is negligible.
Please spew your hatred of chareidim elsewhere.
Do YOU realize, that staying in kollel forever has nothing to do with it?
If you don’t, maybe look into the issue a little more before you comment on it.
If you do, don’t troll.
“What is the evidence that it didn’t occur?”
MorachRach, that may be a valid question in some third-world country. In the U.S., however, the law is that you’re innocent until proven guilty…
Shmendrik,
You’re either an incredible troll (probable) or a deeply disturbed person (possible). In either case, you urgently need to make yourself a Rebbi who can guide you in the correct path of Torah, because your posts show that you’re unfortunately very far from it, whether you’re a troll or not.
Being that this thread got hijacked by the very important twizzler discussion, it seems that my post about Jewish homeless people got overlooked, so here it is again:
“rebdoniel,
I had no idea there is a significant frum homeless population! That’s horrifying! Do you know this for a fact? How many people are we talking about (although each one is for sure a tragedy!).”
rebdoniel,
I had no idea there is a significant frum homeless population! That’s horrifying! Do you know this for a fact? How many people are we talking about (although each one is for sure a tragedy!).
David Bar-Magen,
Amein, and thanks for the good wishes. The one I was referring to was Parshas VaYeitzei ???”?. There are two of them, it’s the second one; the title starts with the words “Chizuk Gadol…”
Also take a look at some of the other sichos there on bitachon. There’s one in Vayigash, and a shorter one in Toldos I think.
All the best
First of all, David Bar-Magen: May Hashem give you a Yeshuah quickly and easily, and may He shower you with bracha v’hatzlacha, good health and happiness.
Second of all, I’m in a very similar situation to yours. And “im lo yo’il lo yazik”; try to say Parshas Hamon every day, as per the Yerushalmi it’s supposed to help with Parnassa. Also, if you even have just a few minutes a day, try to learn a sefer that deals with bitachon that speaks to you. Personally I have been getting tremendous chizuk from “sichos chizuk” from Reb Tzvi Meyer Zilberberg. There were times when I was so down I was sure that nothing in the world could give me hope, and that sefer would usually do it. Try to borrow the volume on Beraishis (or find a shul that has it) which has some incredible sichos for people in tzoris. Actually, any volume will do, it’s just that Beraishis has one VERY powerful one which I’ve recently seen. If you’re interested, I’ll look up the page b”n.
Third of all: Try to be dan l’kaf z’chus to those posters here whose posts lack the required Jewish Midah of Rachmonus, as one of the following probably applies to them:
1. They may be non-Jewish trolls,
2. They were born with the middah of achzaryus, and this is their big Yetzer Hora and nisayon in life (to those of you to whom this applies, some good advice: get off the internet so you don’t constantly raise the temperature in your afterlife)
3. They are people who have had a hard life and have become cynical, bitter, distrustful people (idem for getting off the internet),
4. They’re idiots.
Fourth of all: to those of you to whom one of the four points above apply: thank you for having made it clear to the rest of us who you are, and on which side of the fence of Jewish values and Hashkofa you stand.
And specifically to shmendrik: I’m as right-wing and yeshivish as they come. I’ve probably learned more years and dapim than you have. Which is why I can tell you that the amount of chisaron b’bein adom lchaveiro and bad middos (let’s start with gaavah…) you have shared with us in this thread is simply astounding.
It’s one thing when you want to make uber-yeshivish comments in a hashkafa thread. But doing so in a thread where you use your so-called Torah knowledge to further trample on a down-trodden Yid is disgusting. I sincerely hope you’re merely an idiot, because the alternative would be scary for you.
Personally I think the mods should ban you for your comments in this thread, which are as trolly as they come…
“I will IY”H explain the super-rationalist position”
Sam, very interesting post. If what you write is correct, the ironic outcome is that the super-rationalists are actually abandoning logic and common sense in order to further their rationalist agenda.
“So you think the “power of a gadol” is that he can look at a list of names and see whose time has run out? Nope, they are human just like you or I.”
“That my friend, is kefira.”
It’s not kefira, it’s close-mindedness. There are plenty of eyewitnesses, including myself, who have seen gedolim do and say things which can’t be explained naturally. Unfortunately when it goes counter to crisis’ (and others) beliefs and world view, they would prefer to believe that me, uneeq, and all the other witnesses are blatant liars rather than entertain the notion they may be wrong.
So they’re either close-minded, or they feel so threatened (not sure why) that they prefer to put their fingers in their ears and shout “NANANA -I CAN’T HEAR YOU”.
Talk about double standards, I just went through the YU cover-up thread, which, sadly, was closed right as it was getting more and more fascinating.
Although I am quite Yeshivish and tend to disagree with many of the more MO posters here on various issues, I always understood that they had a different view than mine and could respect that. Especially when it came to the subject of child abuse.
It was therefore absolutely shocking to me how “pareve” some of the oh-so-vehement-anti-abuse posters were once the subject was YU.
Hypocrisy at it’s absolute, and very disappointing, best.
chosid,
I am not Joseph. I imagine the mods can confirm this through ip’s etc. But thank you for strengthening the point I made.
“Kol hachosheid beksheirim lokeh begufo”. I b”n will not forgive you until you ask for mechilah.
“Don’t bother responding to him.”
Why, because he has views which differ from yours? That’s called fanaticism.
It may have nothing to do with looking at forbidden things. In E”Y there has for many years been a clear psak, signed by gedolim of every stripe, litvish, chasidish and sefardi that having a non-kosher phone is forbidden.
I don’t know the halachic parameters here, but I would think that the fact that the erstwhile eid felt he doesn’t have to listen to practically all the gedolim was a factor.
“So, many gedolim saw the establishments of the medinah as a sign from HKBH-0 as indeed it is.”
So you admit that there were gedolim who didn’t. I am in awe of your erudition and Torah knowledge which obviously must be very great, if you can then say with such certainly that those gedolim were wrong.
yichusdik,
“Pure, unadulterated zealotry, to no useful purpose.”
Actually I think a zealot is someone who isn’t willing to see someone elses point of view or opinion, much like you seem to be doing…
Zeeskite and Englishman,
You two don’t get it. Shlomis Bas Divri was brought up way back on the first page of this thread, and the whole issue was carefully ignored for the rest of the thread by those whose worldview it didn’t fit.
And know you two have to go and bring it up again. C’mon, get with the program!