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I think in high school there should be in depth classes about tzniyis. In seminary we had an entire week dedicated to it. We had 10 lessons with a Rav and posek and we learned the halachot and hashkafa inside from the very first time it’s mentioned in the torah till today….
We had many more classes… But yeah.
I agree 100 percent. I beleive I wrote this on the other thread- you can agree to disagree. As long as you don’t ilegitimize the school. Meaning saying they are wrong, bad etc.
For the most part though, you should agree with the majoirty of things…
Your father could of added “I beleive you are right, the Rebbi probably made a mistake, or he thought you were talking about something else, or there really are two Avimelech’s” etc.I don’t think you should ever say “he was wrong” and that’s it. Unless it’s something really horrible, like getting thrown out and publicly shamed for something very small- then you should speak to the principal…and your kid.
I’m saying, always try to add things, be dan lkaf zchut, and show how this is gray and can be interpreted differently.
I’ve been so many cities here that have central air. In beit shemesh, Yerushalayim, beitar etc. Almosy all new apartments have it.
Hmmm maybe a solution would be to make smaller rooms… Like classrooms all in one building. At least you could get to know the people in your room
Well when I get married I’ll make sure whoever does the music knows what a safe level is. I’ll find someone knowledgeable in the area and known for playing at safe levels…
You’re all invited! Now I just need to find a chassan….
Ok I’m here.
Welcome newbie, I have faith in your survival.I think though, where the majority still have kosher phones with no text even, in Israel- they will keep coming up with solutions. Here they have kosher smart phones, etc, but I think they will survive a good while without smartphones of any sort. Although the other people who live here aren’t too happy at having to change things and work with people who don’t have smartphones, they make it possible to do things and the goverment is quite aware of this large group who doesn’t have smartphones. So they make more machines, up phone hotlines, and do things that will work without a smartphone.
Many others have rejected them. I have a theory about subtitles and rejection somewhere around the CR. I beleive I made a thread about it once.
RebYidd, want to find it? lol You seem to be good at that.
Think you missed a few subtitle threads…I know there’s more than what you bumped…
@chabadgal
It’s not just the ease of getting somewhere bad, and being oiyver on the issur “so sitain michshol” (to yourself, if you don’t have all the nessesary filters). You can get inapropriate things sent by whatsapp now, sent around to frum people. I myself have gotten many things- the most recent a man singing along with some of the dirtiest songs, and then showing how he thinks he’e singing, verus what how he sounds to everyone else. Cute, but I did not want to hear thosae songs, nor did I know they would be in the clip.
Many people are against instant messaging as it is addictive, and ruins relationships. Do you suggest we all have smartphones that don’t have any instant messaging? Social media is horrible too. So is youtube. Email is distracting on the go. Games are addictive.
It’s like setting yourself up for failing, There’s too many ways to fall. Why put yourself in that position?
Myabe you need a chainsaw, but do you need a chainsaw, knife, gun, and army tank all in 1? and in the same place?
Magen Avot boys is more dati leumi, sending afterwards to army and yeshiva together, doing bagruyot, etc.
I can talk high schools, is that what you want?
Mazel tov! Where do I go? lol….
I have great yichus, I’m a descendant of Avraham Avinu and Moshe Rabeinu- how good can it get?
I’m also descendant from the chassam sofer apparently. We aren’t sure how, but it’s highly probable.
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Huh, wonder if that was me.
Hooligans are worse. I was on a bus with a bunch last month, 11.30 PM blasting the latest horrible song on a public bus…..
If SOME girls? More like 75 percent of young girls.
It’s not just buses, it’s everywhere. Execpt that you aren’t forced to sit next to them for 40 minutes to 4 hours.Left to right is a stupid idea. Forget the clothes issue and assume the men will look the other way, women and young girls like myself can be extremely loud, yelling, hugging, talking, etc. I am guilty of doing many of these although I’m trying to work on it. Especially for me, I have an issue where I cannot sense when I’m being too loud or too quiet, my friends remind me a lot when i don’t even realize I’m talking so loud.
1. There’s more than one bus company. If you are pregnant-take another company. Or sit in the middle-as in the front of the women’s half.
2. I’ve been on MANY mehadrin buses and I see couples all the time-sitting together in the middle of the bus.The thing is your brain is tricked into thinking its safe when is reality the radiation from looking at the sun it twice or even triple the normal ammount. A second or two can cause partial blindless.
Actually i if I could carry 613 shopping bags….
K so when we meeting at the kosel? I’m game. Lol
Am I supposed to yell out my screename or what? Or am I supposed to just carry like 50 shopping bags…..Hm…. PBA, lightbright, TAOM, Shticky, RebYidd, LF, Oomis, Joseph, and like everyone!
LF I live here! lol
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Anyone can get as long as they want one. Age and colors are based off of where they are holding in ther tzniyus and what they want.
I’ve said this before here. I broke through k9 as a kid and so did many of my friends. If you have kids, GET SEOMTHING ELSE.
That said, as an adult who won’t spend 15-40 minutes breaking it, it’s really good and nice. You can get certain sites whitelisted.
BTW youtube itself has a “kid friendly” filter. Do a google on it.
Wow. I didn’t even bother reading the comments. This thread boggles my mind. I mean, Joseph you must be having a good day. Such an insane post to a very obvious question needs no reply….
Nice to see PBA, it’s been months…or even a year or two when I last saw your name round town. No wonder this thread has actually been continued if PBA is here.
The uninformed do not understand the title
Actually there’s another point about texting, that most people are actually addicted to it. I’m no exaggerating. You see your brain is very smart, it learns slowly slowly that when it hears a ‘ping’, someone is messaging them, and that makes them feel good. It makes them feel wanted, needed, popular, etc. You ussually check your phone if not immediately, within the next few minutes, and when you do you get a rush of “feel good” hormones. Your brain understands that to checking the phone feels good, and it brings a rush of that to you.
That’s why it’s so hard to not check your phone, your brain may be hardwired to do so. Don’t worry though, Hashem made our brain very flexible and you can rewire it by training it to wait to see texts, etc. And don’t give me “But it might be important”. Do yourself a favor and give your spouse and other important people a seperate ring tone and ping noises, if you aren’t expecting anything important-it’s probably not.
This isn’t everywhere. In Israel the majority don’t accept smartphones, and if they have any type of device that is kosher and can do other things, a lot can’t text still or have whatsapp.
I read a study about how just having your phone out in visible sight during a conversation can affect the other person and how they veiw you and how they think you respect them.
I tell people I’m friends with that I’m going to hang out with them only if they put their phone away. I make sure the majority of my time with them is spent face to face, second in line phone/skype, and afterwards messaging. If messaging ends up taking up more time, I’ll limit it. I’ll “not be avialable” in middle of a text conversation I’ll say “Hey, I want to talk about it like fact to face, let’s wait till then and change the subject” or “i MISS your voice, let’s talk” or “my hands hurt from typing” or “I gotta clean my room, but I want to talk to you, so let’s speak over the phone and I can do both!” etc.
You aren’t a slave to yourself, to society, to anyone. If it’s harming your life, get rid of it. Be honest with yourself and don’t think about “what they’ll say” and I promise anyone who drops you cuz you can’t text, whatsapp, etc isn’t a real friend.
If you live far apart you can email, like people write letters, you can talk on the phone, video chat on skype, or hangouts or lots of other stuff.
I write poetry, as a kid I did not know free verse existed till about 8th grade. I used to love haiku’s, couplets, and some other names I can’t remember.
I also like writing the one that can go up to down and down to up (Don’t know the name), a lot of my poetry are also songs so they definitely rhyme!
In any case, why would you make such a generalization? Where do you even view frum poetry?!
This is so sad.
We need moshiach.Bh it is!
To everyone,
Perhaps I was upset because I am aware how bad chat rooms really are, and it is really a negative thing to see a thread calling this place a chat room. This baruch hashem is nothing like a chat room, and the title is very misleading to anyone who knows what a real chat room is.Randomex- I myself see many problems, but everyone is holding in different places. I could sit here and tell every poster what I think is wrong about their hashkafa and how they are talking. (Not every poster, I’m exaggerating of course. I mean to say that I myself do so many things wrong…)
In the case of any frum place, a magazine, website- the moderators and website need to a set a tone of what their hashkafah is. You can’t run a place based on every user. So it may be true that there’s loshon hora, and other things, and I surely don’t agree with that. But I don’t agree with things in Mishpacha magazine too, or AMI magazine, but I still read it. I don’t agree with the way all of my friends talk, but they are still my friends. I just make sure the majority of the people and things I’m very close to are helping bring me up.
So again, true there may be things that we both can agree are completely assur to say or do (like loshon hora), not everyone is holding there, and not everyone is so makpid, etc. And although you may counter that the website needs to set the tone, they do. They are setting a tone. I’ve had posts blocked.
Just because it’s not exactly your tone or my tone or anyone’s tone is okay.
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Hey, I just got back from sem.
I know it’s tough but you can do it,
Letakein girl, nice seeing you around again.Dear Haimy,
Look, there was a thread just like this a few months back. EVERYONE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FORUM/MESSAGE BOARD AND CHAT ROOM! Please get yourself educated before you condemn something. A chat room is more like a highly inappropriate version of whatsapp groups. Chat rooms are known to be horrible places nowadays. It’s immediate conversations that are one or two lines with an ability personally message anyone in the group.
This is a forum. There are many frum forum. GuardYourEyes has a forum, Imamother has a forum. These forums are conversations and discussions that are often longer than a few lines. They are moderated, and there is no way to personally contact anyone off the forum. There is no way to share personal information.
About your feelings towards the way people treat each other and the topics discussed-I don’t vouch for anyone here. This is the internet, it’s 2017. Everyone has different hashkafos, chumros, etc, and well you may be holding where another one isn’t. But that isn’t a condemnation of forums, it’s a condemnation of all frum materials. I have the same issues with frum magizines and any frum website. You take 500 hashkafos and expect them to share and agree on everything…hahahaha
Basically get a tough skin and continue here at your own risk. There is nothing wrong with the forum or you, it’s the objective reality of being thrown into a mold with everyone else you may not necessarily agree with.
That;s allNothing that is frum media and has more than 3 people working on it can be given a label of any sort. This includes forums, magazines, websites, etc.
You stuff everyone who “calls” themselves yeshivish, chareidi, frum, orthodox, ultra orthodox, modern orthodox, and dati leumi machmir into one box and expect them to all have the same hashkafos.
And when they don’t everyone is shocked.
Give me a break. Everyone has a different definition of yeshivish and every other label. Everyone has different chumros, values, and hashkafos.All any media, website, or magazine can do is attempt to run with guidance from a small select group of rabanim and call themselves whatever those rabanim do.
@apushuta yid
@everyone else tooAs someone who actually LIVES in this country, this is my insight on the matter:
1. Besides for the fact the army is anti chareidi, and the fact that there are thousands of boys and girls together on bases, the government is now trying to create mixed BATTALIONS. Young women and men in the same group, sleeping together, etc. This is a new update and the dati leumi and mizrachim are also against this and are trying to fight it. Although we are against the army as a whole, this takes things to a new level for someone who is going to go to the army and wants to be any type of religious.
2. There is a HUGE difference between a protest, and defacing property, being destructive, etc. I don’t beleive the gedolim ever instructed anyone to beat up women, wreck buses, throw tear gas, fire crackers, etc.
Have you ever seen a protest in the USA? They are not like that. I can tell you right now that the real bnei torah are not the people looking for an excuse to burn garbage cans. Most of the bochurim causing destruction are doing it without the excuse of a protest. There are thousands and thousands of normal people actually doing a protest (as can be seen on a video on YWN news where you can see big rabanim talking to thousands about what a horrible thing this is..etc)
3. If people think this is a chilul hashem either out of ignorance of what are values are, or ignorance of knowing what a chilul hashem is, that is not YWN news’s problem. You know, people throw out the term chilul hashem. Do you honestly care that much about Hashem’s name to feel that these people are desecrating it? Or do you just ‘feel’ it’s wrong to protest and be so loud?
4. Come to Israel. If you want to get anything done…you need to protest. Example: bus strikes, garbage strikes for weeks, ummm remember the government promised the settlement of Amona a new settlement…that hasn’t happened. Some families are on a food strike. That’s how you get people to nitce you here. Again I will say there is a huge difference between a protest and being descructive.
I really dislike the new layout. I feel like everything is all mushed together and is one color, like the seperation from post to post is very light.
Oh and SBUBTITLES?!!!!!!! HELLOOOOOOOOOO
Streekgeek!!! Welcome back!! Omg it’s so good to hear from you!
I believe the mods said that subtitles will come back eventually…