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omg yersl… where was the kibud av?? its pretty bad to berate ones father… but b’rabim also????
unless this was some kinda gag that was preplanned… i never heard of a daughter using a website forum to send a message to her father.
sjsinnyc
what i mean is that the limud Torah brings more tangible benefits (ie protection) than the tax dollars does.
sjsinnyc
going to kollel and learning Torah is much more tangibly helpful to the american public than paying taxes.
hmm, any other pointers from the gentiles that we could introduce into some frum circles??
im trying to find a thread i saw earlier today, but the front page only has about the last 4 or 5 hours of threads on it. i cant find the right search to put into chofetzchaim’s search link to find it with either. wasnt there more threads showing up on the main page before?? were some taken off or reduced???
umm shticky guy, you shouldve practiced what you preach! THIS is the second or third thread with the almost exact title!
btw, maybe it should be called a shticky thread??
thanks for venting. the customer service telephone line i answer, we get the exact same as you described. it services the general public and is not religious or race specific.
sms007
on the beginning of this discussion you said you were trying to renounce. what ever happened with that effort???
if he is a poor bochor he has every right to date at a price he can afford. if that means a less expensive date that is his perogitive. and he does not have to announce it beforehand. if she is so shallow to not go out with someone who isnt up to her financial demands, that is her loss. she’ll have to show her shallowness after the date. and in any event the first 2 or 3 dates are lounges mostly by young couples, so it shouldnt cost much in any event nor require any advance notice.
attention boys: we are NOT babies!!! stay in the car and we can walk ourselves to the door!!! once or twice a boy walked me to the door and I felt like I was back in kindergarten and the bus monitor walked me to my door!! our mommies dont hold our hands outside anymore!! not to mention its so awkward being walking to your own door by a boy.
does one have to give maaser on a gift, b’chlal?
wasnt the gemora written after eisev?? so obviously that was taken into account and stil written. and doesnt it say to take this factor into account?
so you’re saying reb chaim is wrong??????
“How are you planning on getting married if you can’t even pay for your dates?”
ummm, poor people have just as much right, and even obligation, to get married as not poor people!!
always here, not a hard and fast 100% rule. but definitely one consideration amongst many.
i agree with jl. i think it is brought down in the gemora that a woman’s children will have the same middos as her brother(s). that’s why ppl look at a girls brother when considering marrying her.
if it makes the girl uncomfortable, it is not worth it. she may find it a tznius problem, as others indicated. or otherwise be embarassed. walking her to the door may factor in to her not wanting to go out with him again.
since most girls are probably uncomfortable being walked to the door (think of all the neighbors), what is the guy supposed to do EVEN if he wanted to, considering she may not want to be walked to the door (like so many girls above have said)?
its interesting that most girls here said they would be uncomfortable if the guy tried to walk her to the door. i think some of the women saying the guy should do it are just subscribing to this idea as a religion.
he is also right about even if it is after marriage, while you can touch obviously, but you cant do so in public (and the photos are taken in front of others and are going to be public.)
i think jewish source is talking about the problem where they are touching after engagement but before marriage, as many onlysimchas engagement photos unfortunately show.
another major problem today is guys forgetting that it is only mentchlich for them to offer to hang up the girls coat on the coat rack in the restaurant, if there is no coat room attendant. it is very boorish for him not to.
just like u should worry about whether the next jew eats non-kosher, u should worry if her hemline is unkosher.
“it’s been researched”
Was the rosh yeshiva called for the research and he said it wasn’t several? And if there are many ip’s, are you assuming they are him based on the context of the postings? If so you could be erroneously including other posters thinking its him.
looking at popas links its obvious it takes many months or years until any screen name is recognized as being him (assuming its accurate). ill bet he is laughing at us while posting with a half a dozen still active names hes been already using for months that arent yet recognized (and when they are he’ll have another batch already in operation). could even be most of his names were still not found. for all we know he may be participating right here now!