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you’re making too many assumptions rabbiofberlin. the cRc didn’t make this announcement to stir up trouble. there is a genuine concern here. until that is clarified, best to stay far away from starbucks if you value kashrus.
i used to drink in starbucks until i saw the cRc kashrus alert against starbucks last week. but i am careful in both inyanim, in any event.
tzvideer
very well said.
Matan1
anyone is entitled to comment here. in fact, non divorcees are better able to comment, without confusing their personal biases from their scars. they can give a better judgement on this issue.
again, the machmirim do not only go to extremes on bein adam l’makom. do not generalize. (and as pointed out, it is usually the reverse.)
abusive marriages represent only a very small portion of divorces. i am in complete accordance with tbt. the vast majority of divorces are completely avoidable.
i never saw anyone here brag about themselves blocking driveways or double parking. can you kindly show which thread anyone allegedly bragged like that? and then show us where he or she was machmir on bein adom l’makom? (not that there is anything wrong to be machmir on bein adom l’makom.)
this is what i meant by people associating an individual (allegedly) doing something wrong with an entire group of people.
also, even though there are individuals who are negligent in bein adom l’chaveiro, i’ve never heard any group supporting violating bein adom l’chaveiro *b’shitta*. unfortunately, there are groups that are okay with violating bein adom l’makom b’shitta.
popa
who are you quoting? i dont see anyone saying that to you.
that’s a lot! how many days a week do you need her?
which Rabbi David Cohen?
lomed
you are mixing up some issues. you are right that both bain adam l’makom and bain adam l’chaveiro are both important. but both of them apply to jews. that being said, it is also important to be nice to gentiles. but that is a separate issue, not directly related to bain adam l’chaveiro which doesnt apply to them. (although you may be correct in that if someone neglects bain adam l’chaveiro he will probably not be too nice to non-jews either.)
also, another issue i must take with your comment is that certain people make untrue allegations that people who defend bain adam l’makom are somehow negligent with bain adam l’chaveiro. this untruth may have rubbed off on you, so i hope you havent bought into it. like the other day i started a thread pointing out problems with starbucks, which is a bain adam l’makom issue. does that mean i am somehow negligent in bain adam l’chaveiro? no. but there are people who will find a bad apple and incorrectly apply it community-wide.
always here
if the machatanim wanted a fancier wedding, they should have been fully responsible for the difference in cost.
girls are at least equally at fault, so let us not start blaming the men. usually both sides are at fault.
beside the point of who’s at fault for the divorce, it seems to me the girls are usually quicker to run for divorce, and that is sad since more times than not it is so unnecessary.
it is a big shaila whether someone living in eretz yisroel is permitted to move out. also, many people who moved out have had things not turn out well.
dan’s deals
just delete the bad posts and leave the thread open, so those having a good conversation can continue.
my brother in mtj says rav dovid does not eat cholov stam at all, and nor does his adult family. (he isnt sure about when they were young children.)
he isnt sure if rav dovid has his own opinion and disagrees with his father rav moshe, or if rav dovid holds like his father.
mamashtakah
no its not. you easily pass 50 people each way. if you were to greet every one of them, a) you would not be able to talk to your walking partner and b) you’d be out of breath by time you got to your destination. OOT you dont have this problem. its just the difference of the nature of things.
xenolexica
doodle
we make at most 10 and recycle about 40.
maybe its not as bad, but only in a sense, since there are less people on it, and therefore less predators or possibilities for immorality. but in essence i dont see any difference. especially once it grows larger.
rezdy
people dont say it to opposite genders due to the gedorim.
and in NY you pass way too many people on the street on every walk to constantly greet everyone.
wolfish
you can only complete the marriage paperwork AFTER the ceremony.
popa
dunno if you were serious (you said it was funny), but we recycle all the time. pass what we receive from one to others (sometimes with some slight mixing around.)
daas yochod: i think you are right in that if posts become inappropriate they should be deleted instead of closing the entire thread.
charliehall
whos your rov and which gedol does he consult?
apushatayid,
it doesnt matter if it is or isnt THE reason. it exacebrates the reason(s) and makes it worse, when such forbidden behavior is prevalent.
m in Israel: very eloquently stated!
the goyim do not have any reasonable taanos, plus like you pointed out, you dont even hear goyim complaining that there are too many Jews on food stamps or welfare.
thats because in NY you pass 50+ people on the way to shul, and its not practical to say gut shabbos 50+ times each way without losing your voice and breath while having a conversation with the person walking with you also. ive noticed that when people say it to opposite genders, frequently those people are saying it only to opposite genders. try figuring out why.
yaff80: lack of tznius is one of the MAJOR reasons for shalom bayis problems. this is as on subject as you can get.
health, it isn’t even unethical to receive food stamps if you technically qualify under the legal guidelines that determine eligibility, even if your parents are Rockefeller but you are an adult child who has no income. as long as he honestly answered all the questions on the food stamps application and they approved it correctly, that is all that determines its ethics. and im talking in general, not about kollel people or any specific subgroup. (kollel people actually do not live in the lap of luxury.)
“living off a government charity is a poshute, universal ta’ana.”
mdd: if its really such “a poshute, universal ta’ana”, i guess you have taainos against those living on tzedaka! most of us, i think, do not, have any such taainos. i even think one is allowed to take tzedaka in order to learn…
“Implicit was the suggestion that men are more likely to find a woman attractive if she is dressed inappropriately.”
that is pretty explicit i would think. if someone is dressed inappropriately of course many men will notice. isnt that the reason women arent supposed to dress inappropriately?
popa. the implication of what you said is that you would have her )!dress inappropriately (since that would allegedly help her marriage
on imamother we had this discussion last year. a bunch of people said the same thing about rav chaim. one person wrote the following:
Just had bil ask Reb Chaim Kanevsky about the name Shira.
He did not say it’s not a name, he made a joke that when someone told him that dd was born Shabbos Shira and they would like to name her Shira. His answer was: “and if she was born on Shabbos Parah-would you name her parah?!
His exact answer was:” Are we missing nashim tzkanios to name after-name the baby Avigail” when my bil said :”and if they really want to name Shira?” He said “Efshar” (meaning you can)
Posted: Tue, May 11 2010, 2:32 am Post subject: re: names not names?
if you google the first line, you’ll find that post.
mbachur: you’re being called an old geezer. old people sometimes say age if only a number when they dont wanna tell people how old they are.
i dont know what the big deal about this is, but i guess it doesnt hurt to have one…
im sure you two created this thread for the fun of it more than anything else…
but they DONT have legitimite taainos, if the law allows them to qualify for the benefits. do they have taainos on college students who qualify? nope. and like someone said, learning Torah is an education towards working as a teacher, rabbi, author, religious worker, etc. etc. (and even if that wouldnt have been the case, they would legally qualify and no one can have a legitimate taaina.)
A lot less frum Jews (percentage wise) in NY and in Lakewood take food stamps than blacks and less than hispanics across the entire USA. So if anything, it is a kiddush Hashem. Many whites, blacks and hispanics factor food stamps into their equation on how to make a living.