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“Obviously fewer of them are getting married at that age, B”H!”
more of them should get married at that age. i never saw any data indicating fewer of them are. az, do you have any data supporting that you will share with us, or is this speculation or info that is “proprietary”?
mod80 already posted soon after eclipse stopped posting that zeeskite is not her.
apushatayid, is running a washing machine a normal behavior?
aries, nekama is a very serious halachic matter and transgression. we cant act how we feel, we must only act in accordance with the halacha. i really dont see this type of nekama (turning down the neighbors heat) as halachicly warranted — even if you redefine the nekama as “a taste of their own medicine”.
never get into a car service unarmed.
DY: B”H for that.
and do you have any reason to feel the feeling is mutual with those 3?
“A. Women think this is a moral issue, as if good upbringing will cause a guy to not need to be attracted to his wife.”
thats not a fair description. everyone (man and woman) agrees a guy needs to be attracted to his wife. what people are saying is that the corrupt definition of “attractive” as defined by hollywood and goyisha culture is wrong and shallow.
there was no justification whatsoever for yogi turning down their boiler to make them cold. no justification whatsoever. im not sure who needs to ask who mechila. probably both.
zees – which time zone?
the jewish press is very liberal. i only read a Torah paper like hamodia.
it’ll take him months (and cost him tons) to try to evict you. by time anything happens, youll have left on your own long before.
in any event, who even said hershey’s uses only powdered milk rather than actual milk?
they are essential for your health? you MUST eat hershey’s choclate bars?
“Is there anything wrong for a yeshiva bochur to be makpid on dating girls who are very pretty? I’m not talking about somebody shallow”
being makpid on looks? okay. but imho, being “makpid” on girls who are “very pretty” is by definition shallow.
cherrybim
a baal nefesh will not eat any choclate bar at all, if none are available as CY. choclate bars are neither necessary for ones health nor is eating a hershey’s choclate bar ever a shas hadchak.
Daas Yochid
“R’ Moshe ZT”L is matir all milk based on that reasoning;”
thats perfectly fine. i dont take exception to being matir all CS. i am pointing out though, using that reasoning (like R’ Moshe) you have to be matir ALL CS; it doesnt make sense — to use THAT reason — and say only powdered is okay. iow, if you are machmir on CY only, that reasoning doesnt help you be meikel on powder. (it would only make sense if you are meikel on all of CS, if you go with that reasoning.)
“He maintains, though, that powdered milk was not part of the g’zeira.”
where does he say it wasnt part of the g’zeira? like charliehall pointed out, powdered milk didnt exist at the time of Chazal. so when Chazal made the g’zeira they never excluded powdered milk.
“I will posit that the number of older single boys (33 + and never been married) percentage wise is no greater thatn it was 15 years ago. As such your claim is unjustified.”
that doesnt say much. even if it is no greater than 50 years ago; all it means is that now as well as 15 or 50 years ago some boys did whatever was wrong in delaying or avoiding marriage.
“I would expect the moral of your story to be that bad marriage is always worse than no marriage.”
actually, (as a general rule) a bad marriage is a lot lot better than no marriage. growing old alone, never marrying, living a life of solitude, is like a prison. a bad marriage is bad – no doubt about that – but generally not nearly as bad as a marriageless life.
cherrybim
“(2) the g’zera was not made on powdered milk”
when did the g’zera ever exclude powdered??
that isnt relevant to the issue.
Daas Yochid
“However, he also writes that government supervision makes it reasonable to assume that it’s from cow’s milk, and this part does seem to hold true today.”
using that line of reasoning, you should equally be matir ALL milk, not just powdered. i dont understand why that reasoning should be more applicable to powdered than not powdered.
iow, hello99 is saying that the kula for people who only eat CY (and do not eat CS) nevertheless eating non-CY powdered milk, was that the poskim said it is physically impossible to make powdered milk from non-kosher sources.
now, that metzius changed, in that it has become physically possible in more recent years to make powdered milk from non-kosher sources. so the original basis for the heter is no longer applicable, considering the new (and changed) metzius. (and to come up with a new reason for a heter for powdered milk in that they are usda labeled, you could use that same logic to be matir all CS — which some people do, but if you are machmir on CY only there is no more reason to be meikel on powdered milk.
i am just explaining hello99’s point as i understand it. if i understood anything incorrectly, please correct.
yogibooboo
dont forget to ask them mechila for turning off their boilers and freezing them. you may not see them again and it would be sad for you to only give din vcheshbon after 120 for that…
within havarah ashkenazis, there is the chasidisha havara and there is the litvisha havara. both are legit. in the chasidisha havara it is Toiyreh and in the litvisha havara it is Torah.
they should be told not to come to shul, rather than not saying anything and them being mechallel shabbos to come to shul on shabbos.
today dressing non-tznius is completely normal. doesnt make it right. im not saying this is the same, just that something being “completely nornal” doesnt make it kosher.
i learnt once that kohanim are usually angrier than most people. i forgot the reason why.
she cant accept or demand a divorce unless he wants to give one.
a guy’s obligation to marry is the same even if he is too poor to afford a watch. but a choson doesnt have to buy a watch in any event.
DS:
everyone answered you. you dont like the answer. why did you ask the question here?
if the boy is learning, i definitely agree the girl should be going to his city to date, as to minimize his off-time from learning.
daas yochid
thank you. as i indicated, cRc has raised substantial kashrus issues they’ve recently uncovered in regards to starbucks. cRc has stated they’ve found the utensils used to serve and process the coffee to be non-kosher due to their treatment in the cleaning process. it is inconceivable that someone with yiras shamayim would drink there until and unless the issue is clarified in a positive manner.
educated guess. there are no official stats on the issue this thread discusses. how many frum jews would you guess live in boro park alone?
i believe this post from zeeskite is very applicable to this thread:
ZeesKite
Member
OK. No one knows me here right?
Our shana rishona was really rocky. After the first of our cuties B”H came along, we realized that we’re in it for the long haul, and looked at things differently. B”H we’re happily married. Still. It was many years later I found a Medrash that said that Yaakov Avinu originally wanted to divorce Leah Emenu, so HaShem sent her offspring right away. Medrash continues: so Yaakov said “What, to the mother of these I should send away?!” Analyzing this we come to the conclusion the powerful force of the role of children in marriage. Yaakov was at the verge of sending her away, not out of hate or any other of today’s petty issues, he had VALID reasons (R. Miller states some), yet he held on because of the children. WOW!
what did the ami magazine article on this story conclude?
many u.s. states have severe restrictions written into their state constitutions restricting the use of eminent domain in their state.
there must be about 100,000 in the boro park/flatbush/williamsburgh/crown heights area alone!
s2
the brainy guy will get a high powered, high paying job, bringing in boatloads of cash. what good will the social skills do?
should not the question posed be whether one would knowingly marry (rather than date) someone with diabetes?
lomed
specifically which halacha of kavod habriyos, applicable to gentiles, is docheh a lav D’rabanan?
Leizor
wolfishmusings is giving you the best advice you can receive.
leizor
he should immediately break off the shidduch and look for a richer kallah.
they’ve been sinking in the previous generations as well.
ramat
this is being discussed on a sociological level, not an individual level, and it is okay and in fact potentially beneficial.
wolfish
individual exceptions may exist. nevertheless, on a societal level, divorce is very bad. using a case of someone becoming a baal teshuva post divorce is somewhat unique, relatively speaking.