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I think the big kapporos places are now providing food and water for the chickens. I am not sure what the torture is, the swinging around does not have to be done so vigorously, right? The minhag that began as symbolic of the transfer of our sins onto the chicken for a kapporah became commercialized by those needing the parnosah, but they can do this in a safer way, with no tzaar baalei chayim. I think if I had my own little coop in the back yard, I would follow this minhag, no problem. but since we don’t, we do it happily with money.

If someone is greatly disturbed by children not behaving in shul, perhaps they can go to a hashkoma minyan so they can concentrate on their tefillos.

This past purim, I was surprised that many mothers brought babies and newborns because the shul had a party to break the fast and have music afterwards. I asked one mother if she was concerned that she might not hear the megillah if her child makes noises or cries and she shrugged and said I don’t really care, what I hear, I hear. I was very miserable during laining because the kids did make noise. I also never brought little ones to laining until they could be quiet, but it seems like today it is a different generation.

The end of this is that I decided that next year I will attend a different kriyah for megillah where I can be sure I can be yoetzai the mitzvah.

Mdlevine, did you read the letter I think it was in the mishpacha or bina, about this woman who was shopping and all of a sudden did not see her stroller (with baby inside). The stroller had been right next to her and then poof it disappeared! The baby and stroller were found a few stores down, nothing happened boruch Hashem.

my low fat honey cake does call for egg whites but you don’t have to whip them up. don’t worry, it does not taste like diet food (pttoooey!)

I think the protest gives our brothers in Israel support. Interesting that the MO schools all go, but the yeshivish ones don’t talk about it even. i wonder why that is

anybody got a good recipe for chick peas? I have a GAZILLION cans in the cabinet!!

I am wondering if it is the men who want the girl who is size zero or their mothers want this for them? I think most men do not find this ultra ULTRA thin look attractive at all. Yes, they do want someone slim. Unless they are chubby themselves, usually the boy wants a slim wife. The girls also are not interested in overweight men, unless they are heavy themselves.

Men AND women who are overweight, they should take care of their bodies not only just for shidduchim but for their general gazunt. People who are overweight can have serious health risks, such as high blood pressure, diabettes, and cancer (chas v’shalom). Let’s not let the shidduch crisis lead to an eating disorder crisis.

Did anyone ever visit Museum Village near monroe, New York? They have an old fashioned school house from over one hundred years ago, and you can sit in there and the “teacher” gives you a lesson about the way kids went to school. I think she showed us the stick they used, and she said there was the rule of thumb, that the stick could not be thicker than the teacher’s thumb.

The difference was that the teacher just rapped the kid on the knuckles, no punching and slapping around. It is sad that a teacher or rebbe takes out their frustration on the child. they need to be removed from their position. I remember watching one of my rabbonim with his kids, he never hit or yelled. just this one look!

SarahB:

I wonder if you ever had a child who was rejected from school. In the case of a girl going into high school, she is 13 years old. She is a good girl, in fact a great girl, but “they” have decided not to accept her. She comes to school the next day and everyone is very excited because they all got in…

I wonder how you can ever compare this to a person who is applying to Harvard. A person who is 18 and is applying to more than one school and has many choices. Is this what our yeshivos have come to, they have become elite schools for the few and elite? I could THROW UP. If sorah shnier would be alive she would be rolling in her grave (chas v’ shalom) to see what became of her bais yaakov system.

A person doesn’t HAVE to go to Yale, but a kid has to go to yeshiva. What else can they do…go to public school…pack groceries? MY G-D, these kids are babies, our jewels, and they are made to feel like a piece of TRASH. someone will pay dearly for all these neshamos that had to go through so much agmus nefesh.

Give me a break-

I told my kids that if they leave the bees alone they won’t sting, but it doesn’t help! They are still terrified. Also, the type of bees we have, yellow jackets, chew on meat and other scraps to feed to their larvae. No, I am not a bee keeper, I googled it! (ahhh, the wonders of the internet…) I really don’t like to put out the bee traps, but I don’t know of anything else that will keep them away. I put the bee traps out and away from our succah, as I do not enjoy watching the poor bees doing the back stroke in a mire of honey, nebach…

I like to use the honey bears at the table, and everyone use your own because I cannot deal with the honey smeared all over the table! We do this for Rosh Hashana and yom kippur (seudas mafsekes) Since the honey attracts bees, we don’t do it in the succah. Then again, everything attracts the bees. My kids start screaming at the sight of a bee and run into the house terrified. The bees also love gefilte fish and meat. UGH, remind me later about setting up my bee traps before yom tov, sorry bee lovers.

Mishpacha Family First (Issue 108) has a whole article about spending succos in Eretz Yisroel, and it has alot of ideas on what to do, things to see, without spending a ton of $. Like they mentioned the egged #99 bus that take you on a tour of Yerushalayim, stopping at twenty nine major attractions, and you have a recorded guide on earphones as the bus makes it’s way around the city. Says to pack for cool evenings and some light weight clothing if you have a chamsin (heat wave). I was there last year for succos, boy do I wish I could go this year! Have a great time.

Those days they used to beg parents to send to yeshiva, now they are turning them away because of the volume. the problem is we have become successful in having more children, boruch Hashem, but not successful in providing enough schools for them. It’s a financial problem.

I think it means that you support or belong/identify with a certain group when you wear its’ colors. like the whole orange thing with gush katif. Hah, I was touring in Israel during that horrible time, and I wore an orange kerchief to match an orange shirt I had bought in the U.S. not for gush katif reasons at all. So anyways, a secular Israeli made this rude comment to me (save your strength till they throw you out!) and I wasn’t even wearing it for gush katif reasons!

No. I do not live in Lakewood.

Reb Gavra…in my case it was not a tuition issue. We have always paid full tuition. Just in these yeshivos alot of kids want to get in, they look for reasons to reject. For example, if they didn’t like your older child they won’t take your younger one. this happened to me. I am still so hurt by this. why not address the older child, don’t take it out on the younger sibling by rejecting them. they look for reasons to reject because they have so many that want to come. it’s a sad situation nowadays.

Sorry, I get a little carried away. I am so happy my kids are almost out of the yeshiva system.

Reb Gavra_at_work, I agree with you. It is very sad that yeshivos are run like businesses. I do not envy these principals and administrators, when they go up to shamayim after 120 they will have to answer to G-d for their actions. I spent two years of my life being angry at one principal until I told myself enough, I don’t have to waste my time on them, let Hashem take care of them. Maybe we should all decide to send our kids to public school and put these reshaim out of business. they will have to BEG on their hands and knees for us to send our kids to them and their wallets will be as empty as ours are after paying them so much in tuition.

Bored at work…

EVERY kid is really good, just some kids may need extra attention at this juncture of their lives. I really dislike when kids are labeled like apples, good and not good. These are all yiddishe kinder who were born to a mother, we should show some understanding.

From what I have heard, lakewood wants to accept children into elementary school, but they don’t have room, so there is alot of competition to get into school. I should have become chassidish so I wouldn’t have had this problem!! LOL.

Mrs. Langert, you have focused on one aspect of a problem, but there is much more to this. The main problem is that the schools don’t have enough money, the parents are giving as much as they can but it’s barely enough. The community Rabbonim have to establish community schools that are supported by rich people in the community. any ideas anybody?