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  • in reply to: Rechnitz Speech in Lakewood #1137792

    W3DCB: can you post a link to the cliff’s notes version of your comment? I’m sure you have good points to make but that comment was a behemoth. SYRechnitz had some good points, and we cannot make positive changes without dialog. So, good for him for bringing this discussion to the people. The speech itself is not magic and will not fix anything but it spurred a constructive dialog.

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134349

    apushatayid: it amazes me how you continue to think this is about you. Or your imaginary friend. You are the only one out of this whole thread who is not focusing on the discussion. Stop it with the gayva. Stop it already.

    in reply to: No, you don't own the parking spot you dug out for the next two weeks #1133975

    Under the Lockian theory of property rights you now own the spot because you made significant improvements to the otherwise unused land. It’s the same theory that the American colonists used to justify their capture of Native American territory, or what some people use to justify the settlement of Eretz Yisrael (we took arid, unusable land from Arabs and made it productive farmland). GET A GUN AND PROTECT YOUR RIGHTFUL PROPERTY!! DONALD J. TRUMP 2016 You did the work, you should enjoy your spot.

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134343

    apushatayid: If you’re concerned for this person you have conjured up in your mind–as the imagined subject of my thread–congratulations, you are doing more damage than I could have done, by rehashing your dead point over and over and over. Let me reiterate: I have no idea what or who you’re talking about. You probably also think 9-11 was a hoax and are voting for Donald Trump for President. Congratulations, “Rabbi”.

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134323

    apushatayid: I have no idea what you’re talking about. Is it possible you’re related to someone who may fall into that description and are getting all emotional about it? Are YOU called Rabbi in the real world and feel guilty because you know you’re not qualified for it? Go outside and sit in the snow to cool off.

    in reply to: The Geulah will do get rid of the concept of "daas torah" #1133199

    Dash: The Rambam lists the mashiach qualifications in detail.

    in reply to: The Geulah will do get rid of the concept of "daas torah" #1133195

    Joseph: isn’t bais hillel off the table for after mashiach comes? we flip to beis shamai, end of story.

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134291

    DaasYochid: Maybe. Maybe smicha should be the prerequisite to being marbitz torah. Amateurs should not be marbitz torah. Without smicha it’s probable that at least ONE of their positions, statements or teachings may be inconsistent with halacha. Teaching torah is a big responsibility, you simply CANNOT risk inconsistency. Especially when malleable young minds are involved. The issue is that practically speaking, you wouldn’t have enough qualified rabbeyim if you do that. There are lots of excellent Rabbeyim, but also, there are some bad ones.

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134290

    writersoul: I’m so happy we are on the same page. That was the point I was trying to bring out. *mike drop* my job here is done

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134271

    Daas: I’m referring to the original one in around 2010.

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134266

    So based on all the opinions above it seems that (1) there is no real smicha anymore; Rabbanus is conferred on someone who demonstrated sufficient knowledge to disseminate torah and halachik opinions (2) the title of Rabbi is not in fact a technical term and can be used to describe anyone who is accepted as qualified for a position of disseminating torah.

    Now, based on that, if it stam a word used, then why would the gedolim release a kol korei, banning the word to describe a woman? EITHER IT IS A TECHNICAL TERM OR IT IS NOT. The moetzes, in their psak halacha that a woman cannot be called Rabbi because there is no smicha for a woman AFFIRM that the term IS a technical, smicha related word. So, if we do abide by their psak halacha we should not call anyone who does not have smicha “RAV”. And if you want to call anyone without smicha Rabbi, then you are not abiding by the moetzes’ psak halacha and you shouldn’t have a problem calling a woman, “Rabbi” or “Rabbah”.

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134255

    Wolf: the classic ordained rabbanim who went off the d were Elisha Ben Abuya and Jesus. They both received the mesora from the top of the chain- indisputable Torah M’sinai at the highest caliber. I’m not sure what people from the kehilla referred to them after. (I’m not talking about when the Gemara recorded them years later- I’m talking about their contemporaries) Maybe they were still called Rabbi by their peers? Who knows

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134254

    writersoul: that was one of my original points. Spot on. I’m not exactly at the Kosel in a tallis learning gemara with a maharat but you are 100% correct. By the analyses mentioned above: It’s a complete double standard to call a man who teaches halacha or engages crowds with inspirational speeches but does not have smicha “rabbi”, but a woman who teaches halacha or inspires people and does not have smicha cannot be called “rabbi”. If it is a technical term then it should stay a technical term. And if it is simply a title used colloquially then whats the big deal calling chashuva women “rabbi”.??

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134225

    Thanks, Joseph; that concept sits right with me.

    in reply to: Gemara names #1132495

    I’m just curious – at what point exactly did the Jews start changing their names after leaving mitzrayim in that exact z’chus?

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134221

    Attention Moderators and Moderator Wannabees- (1) you are jumping to conclusions based on your own assumptions and associations. (2) if you were so concerned with lashon hora, the entire yeshivaworld should be shut down. get off the internet, there is lashon hora and nivul around every corner, and (3) if there is no dialog about issues then we take everything as dogma like the Quaran and Hadith. Sorry, this isn’t Islam. You yourself said the mesora is dead- there’s no smicha, so we have to have dialog. On your logic the Gemara should have deleted every “hahoo gavra” because one of Ravina’s chavrusas might associate the “gavra” with someone they knew “oy lashon hora” ! NO.

    The point is: I want to talk about the title of Rabbi in today’s halachik culture and I appreciated the responses of people like me who are interested in EMES.

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134215

    @B1g B0y what about a lecturer that mainly deals with teenage girls going off the derech

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134211

    @Joseph I’m not talking about people with questionable smicha. I’m talking about people that tout themselves as Rabbi XXXX on ads for Pesach programs they host. Is that appropriate

    in reply to: If you do not have s'micha, can you advertise yourself as "Rabbi"? #1134210

    So @zahavasdad you if you have any shayla I guess you can just pop open google or a sefer and paskin for yourself then

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