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Depends on how serious the couple is. You can go out of town if it’s that important to you. We did for a while, and it made all the difference. If Torah is important, you realize that things have to be given up for your ideal, and that’s fine. The problem is, immature kids today want everything that they grew up with and also want the torah lifestyle. It doesn’t work like that.

Another few points:

1. I didn’t realize that you were a seminary girl trying to figure things out. Thought you were a grown adult “picking” at what you don’t like about other lifestyles. It makes me feel better, however, it also worries me that after a whole year of seminary you still don’t know what type of lifestyle is right for you, and are addressing your concerns over here. That could give me a whole new rant about seminaries, but I’m sticking to the topic.

2. You can try to plan, however, realize that plans only get you so far. Don’t say you’ll work for x amount of years, you’ll get x degree and make x money so you’ll be ok. Nobody knows what tomorrow will bring. You don’t know how long your husband will be able to learn no matte how mch money you make. This is NOT in your hands. Yes, do your hishtadlus. Get a degree. But don’t give yourself all of these time frames, etc… Life has a way of happening and Hashem has a way of making the most carefully laid plans go out the window. It shouldn’t scare you. But it’s the truth. You do your best and let Hashem guide you the rest of the way. You take it slow.

3. I’m done with this topic. It’s obviously emotional for any of us who have been bashed and commented upon for years. Please get yourself a MENTOR and discuss. Save coffee room discussions for recipes and tips/ideas. Not life-altering decisions.

I’m sick and tired of all these people bringing up the same old learner-earner, live-off-the-parents argument. It’s usually either someone who can’t afford to support, or it’s someone who is working hard to make a buck and has a hard time with the fact that others are learning.

Ignorant people actually tend to focus on the issues that they hear about. I don’t think it’s any of your business if my husband learns or works. How we make things work (with me and my two degrees) is not your concern. And if my neighbor needs government programs to get by, well, so do lots of other people in this economy.

I’m not saying there aren’t flaws in the system- but that’s the point: there are flaws in EVERY area of our society, no matter what your lifestyle.

Torah is paramount. No matter what. If parents CHOOSE to support, or decide to do so out of social pressure, it’s their problem. Not YOUR issue to air out in public so that everyone will start dishing out horror stories of overworked kollel couples. It’s a beautiful life. For as long as we can manage.

Sorry if I sound mad. But enough is enough.

I have a Blush, too. I hate it. The cheaper wigs don’t end up being worth it in the end. Just pay big bucks and go for a Shevy.

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mix together like a 1/2 c whole wheat and the rest white for starters. Also, lots of people substitute some unsweetened applesauce for oil but I dunno if I’d do it in a cookie recipe

I always substitute oil instead of margarine. I never buy margarine at all. It’s totally disgusting and unacceptable for any responsible human being to use margarine. Especially if you have a family. The approximate measurement is about 7/8 cup to every cup margarine or butter.