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Well, now im feeling very included :/
That is not enough of a proof. The tosfos only supports the black plague, if you already want it to, otherwise its simply saying that if we fast when theres dever on pigs, how much more so when theres dever on non jews. Umikan nire is not a clear enough proof
HaleiVi, which tosfos is it that quotes the tur?
Apparently, all the “kach shamaati”s in rashi in taanis, is rashis talmid having heard that pshat from rashi
The issue with saying that tosfos is from the achronim, is that the ritva comments on it in many places. The beis yosef on the tur also tears apart a certain tosfos. One could be dochek this however, and say that heyre referring to other tosfos (such as harid, rabbeinu peretz etc) but its a push
Old man.
Thanks, will check up that tosfos, saw it today, just couldnt see how it possibly refers to the black plague. Will try underatand further
Just one thing– there is no tosfos on 21 with a dibur hamaskil of “amru”
I checked again, there is a rashi on ?? amud alef with a d’h of amru…, but that also cannot possibly e what youre refering to, as he’s talking about daniel there.
Please re-check your sources, perhaps you misunderstood or misquoted?
–old man–
On daf ?? of eiruvin, both amud aleph and amud beis, there is no tosfos d’h amru. In taanis, daf chof alef amud aleph has one, but purely centered around the gemorrah. On daf beis, there is a d’h amar, but i fail to see how that is a possible reference to the black plague. Perhaps you could explain?
People must realize the importance of bekiyus!
As the gaon said ” im ein kemach ein torah” if there is no bekiyus there can be no iyun. However it works both ways. But if your way of iyun, is one that in 5 years you will finish a single mesechta with hundreds of rishonim, acharonim, chakiras and diyukim, look at the biyur halocha quoted above, and think of the day of death.
So to sum it up, the case for the importance of bekiyus has the backing of:
Multiple gemorrahs, rashi, the maharal, orchos tzafikkim, the gra, the aruch hashulchan,
Shulchan aruch harav(although in tanya he is mashma differently, but there it is talking about the
End goal), the chayei odom, the pele yoetz, the chafetz chaim, rav shach,
Rav shteinman, the steipler gaon, rav yaakov kamenetzky, the temani derech halimmud, the gerrer rebbe
and many many more. Doesn’t make pulsing look so crum, lacking mesorah, and lacking a rov to
guide him now does it?
I personally spoke to an adom gadol today, a world expert in more than one area in halacha, and questioned him about this matter. He said that it is important to learn how to think, which the yeshivishe derech gives.
However, once one leaves yeshiva or learns on his own without a shiur, how can he spend 6 hours on a rashba? Whats more important, learning one gemorra with 5 rishonim or 5 gemorrahs with one rishon?
@writersoul–good to know I’m not the only one! I must confess though, i haven’t yet read raising steam :/
@bookworm–he does sometimes use strong language, but never explicit imagery, although the connotations are there
Hi all. For this thread ive got to stop lurking. Ive read all the discworld books so far. Favorite is probably soul music or thief of time
What Mandela did re Israel may have been despicable,
But as a south african, i know how much he did for my
country. If he had acted differently once he was freed,
there would have been civil war. People were primed and ready
For it! They had been stocking up on food and other
Necessary things or months. The fact remains, he could have
Allowed the black population to take revenge and he didnt, which save the
Lives of every white in south africa, many of whom would have died otherwise.
Thats including +~70 000 jews. He could have let us be massacred, but he led
The country in a different way. Anyways, stam goy hates israel, so why should he be better?
At least he has other merits