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June 8, 2023 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm in reply to: The Five Most Likeliest Candidates to be Moshiach #2198132sechel83Participant
moshiach told the baal shem tov (keser shem tov סימן א) when he asked him when he’s coming “when you’re learning with be spread and be revealed in the world and your wellsprings will be spread to the outside”
moshiach is someone who has the neshama called יחידה הכללית, he will teach the level in torah called יחידה. which is chassidus – chassidus is a taste of תורתו של משיח.
(ראה קונטרס ענינה של תורת החסידות)
and i wont even bother with the people who don’t beleive in the baal shem tov, he learned torah straight from achiya hashiloni and moshiach himself, so….June 8, 2023 5:06 pm at 5:06 pm in reply to: Chabad Inspires all Jews to Yearn for Mashiach #2198096sechel83Participantmr avirah – ya the original before he took it out? can you send me a copy? link a pdf?* or its just one of those things he heard from your classmate in school? anyway as i explained, learn chassidus before critisising anyone. learn tanya perek 2, perek 10, it says there the same concept besides for the davening part which is made up bologna by snags.
its so funny how the misnagdim dont have any מ”מ for what they say, and the lubavitchers (or ones who defend lubavitch) and have black and white מ”מ, but still the misnagdim claim only they learn torah and chabad dosent, they just learn tanya and do mivtzoim.
i guess the litvaks after learning a few sugyos of lumdos, can argue with any agadah, medrash, zohar, shulchan aruch harav, (after all the baal hatanya didn’t leatn reb chayim or reb baruch ber, he was from before matan torah – as i heard from a litvak)June 8, 2023 1:52 pm at 1:52 pm in reply to: Chabad Inspires all Jews to Yearn for Mashiach #2198011sechel83Participantso for all the great gedolim paskening 1) not washing שלש סעודות – just learn shulchan aruch או”ח סימן רצא which brings shitos you dont need to wash, many posking hold you can be yotze with even fruit. see also פס”ד צ”צ. (you can see all the מ”מ in the shulchan aruch harav printed by kehos.)
2) eating before davening ראה שלחן ערוך הרב סימן פ”ט סעיף ה (וש”נ)
3) sukkah – just look in hilchos sukkah (שו”ע הרב סימן תרלט סעיף ח-ט)
basically all these attacks are ignorance
and so is the idea of עצמות ומהות מלובש בגוף (which i amagine wasnt the worlds of the rebbe, the rebbe spoke in yiddish, this quote was not edited by the rebbe (not in לקוטי שיחות) but the idea is that בקיצור נמרץ:
the נפש אלקית is חלק אלק ממעל ממש, torah and mitzvos reveal the neshama, by a tzadik who reavels his neshama completly and has nothing left of his nefesh habihamis, all thats left is his נפש אלקית. (this does not mean hes g-d)
this is the most basic concept of chassidus, kabala and judasim. this is the idea of dirah bitachtonim, achdus hasham, moshiach, techiyas hamasim, schar eonesh,
one last point (for now) in chabad they learn chassidus for hours a day, in yeshiva – for 3 hours during seder (7 hours niglah btw) these are very deep concepts and need alot of time to have any understanding (thats why there are hundreds of seforim of sifrai chassidus)
its totally ridicules that someone who never learned any chassidus or learn a drop should come ask kashyos! first learn just one sefer chassidus chabad – and learn it the way you learn gemarah, make sure you understand every word, then start asking questions (you wont have any)June 7, 2023 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm in reply to: Chabad Inspires all Jews to Yearn for Mashiach #2197539sechel83Participanttuna is a fish good point. to answer aviras tantrum. so people like him dont even know what the “official” attack on the sicha was, no one had any issue with that part of the sicha, if that would be the attack, he wouldnt able to convince any litvaks besides some amai haaratzim on the internet. im not going to explain the attack on the rebbe, but at least get the attack streight, then learn the sicha, or the other way around.
June 6, 2023 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm in reply to: Chabad Inspires all Jews to Yearn for Mashiach #2196948sechel83Participantone interesting observation, about the rebbe, people needed to search and search, and finally they came up if something that 1) most of them dont know where its printed 2) most dont even know the words 3) most never even heard those terms (and have no clu what they mean) are because of that they attack the rebbe.
or they attack chabad about moshiach which most know nothing about, or sukh which is a chidush of the rogetchuver not the rebbe, the rebbe just quotes it (check the sicha)whereas other recital statements quoted by others they are just clear kefira. and apikorses
sechel83Participantlearn the sefer והדרת פני זקן, im pointing out that even though there are matirim, there are many many (robom) that hold it asur,
as apposed to no one hold its an oblogation to sit in kolel at all! you can go to work and learn perek ched shachris and arvis, even just krias shma is mikayem והגית בו יומם ולילה (sh”u hilchos masa umatan, and hilchos talmud torah)sechel83Participantthe first question is what is torah?
why did hashem give us torah?
why to yidden?
what is the tachlis of torah?
what is עם ישראל?
718-953-6100 – chassidus on the phone, press 1,1,4June 6, 2023 3:01 pm at 3:01 pm in reply to: YNet study: “Wikipedia editors distort the history of the Holocaust” #2196792sechel83Participantsounds like the yeshuva world! not the news, ch”v i mean the actuall yeshuva world – lakewood
sechel83Participantmr avira de ara. yes, and by the way thats what alot of chassidus is – learning medrashim בעיון. just learn 10 maamerim and chances are it many of them are explaining medrashim.
youre gedolim tought you that torah was given לעשות שלום בעולם or the oppisite.
what about motzi shem ra? lashon hara, shkarim??
you believe in hashem? how can you say such apikorses?
learn some chassidus, and start derhering that there is a g-d, he loves every jew – including you.
and you should love every jew because every jew is g-d’s child.
the rebbe also loves you more than you love yourself, and he loves every jew even the biggest misnagdim who hated him.
so sad to see litvishe hashkofos – if only they tasted chassidus, טעמו וראו כי טוב הsechel83Participantmr avira de ara.
youre gedolim tought you that torah was given לעשות שלום בעולם or the oppisite.
what about motzi shem ra? lashon hara, shkarim??
you believe in hashem? how can you say such apikorses?
learn some chassidus, and start derhering that there is a g-d, he loves every jew – including you.
and you should love every jew because every jew is g-d’s child.
the rebbe also loves you more than you love yourself, and he loves every jew even the biggest misnagdim who hated him.
so sad to see litvishe hashkofos – if only they tasted chassidus, טעמו וראו כי טוב הJune 6, 2023 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm in reply to: Chabad Inspires all Jews to Yearn for Mashiach #2196738sechel83Participantoh the the rambam in hilchos melachim – so the misnadim say “how can you compare the rebbe’s learning to david hamelech?”
answer: so the rambam holds (according to these am haaratzim asking the question, (just to note why dosent the rambam mention tchiyas hamasim? klutz, learn the sugya properly!) moshiach needs to be alive, who today alive is a closer talmid chacham to david hamelech?
question: maybe a hidden tzadik?
answer: so if there is a hidden tzaddik somewhere, whats wrong with saying, that the rebbe knew much more torah than you think he knows and is in fact like david hamelech
basiclly these complaints are totally ridicules – coming up if every stupid reason why the rebbe cant be moshiach, and even if so- bacause of that to call chabad kofrim ch”v? if they are mistaken, good,
every person who makes a mistake is a kofer?!sechel83Participantyay, when are you turning 3?
June 6, 2023 1:00 pm at 1:00 pm in reply to: Chabad Inspires all Jews to Yearn for Mashiach #2196731sechel83Participantavirah, sources? not “alot of sources” (no one can prove the rebbe wasnt from שלמה המלך, and even if not, just means that chabad can be mistaken, you cant hate them because of that. (its known (the יחוס is in the hakdama of the sefer היום יום) the baal hatanya was בן אחר בן from the מהר”ל who was בן אחר בן from שלמה המלך. but the צ”צ was a son of the daughter of the baal hatanya. and the rebbe is from the צמח צדק.so i dont know eaither way)
christianity nonsence? what that moshiach can be from the dead? what about the gemarah סנהדרין צח,ב
מן חייא הוא כגון רבינו הקדוש. אם משיח מאותן שחיים עכשיו ודאי היינו רבינו הקדוש דסובל תחלואים וחסיד גמור הוה כדאמרינן בבבא מציעא (דף פה.) ואם היה מאותן שמתו כבר היה דניאל איש חמודות שנדון ביסורין בגוב אריות וחסיד גמור היה והאי כגון לאו דווקא
just because christians beleive some thing dosent mean judaism hold the oppisite, alot of it (maybe most – i never studied it) comes from judaism, they believe in tanach also
rishonim? sources?
ןis the whole idea of moshiach and techias hamasim cancelled ch”v cuz christians believe it?sechel83Participantmr avirah, learn the whole sugya – to point out 1) read the worlds you posted again – its referring to rabonim and people who teach torah 2) learn the shach on what you quoted. lean the whole sugya finished.
litvaks hold learning halacha is שלא לשמה only לשם כבוד is לשמהsechel83Participantavaira, just learn the whole hilchos talmud torah with the noseh kelim, youre goint to point out every line, no need to explain, you seem to claim yourself as a ben torah.
to learn and live חיי צער is a great thing, its midas chassidus, there are many other things that are midas chassidus
i always wondered why some people are so machmir in some mitzvos, but such a basic easy mitzvah like not shaving, which many (almost all) poskim say is asur even with an electric shaver, they disregared?June 6, 2023 11:29 am at 11:29 am in reply to: Chabad Inspires all Jews to Yearn for Mashiach #2196405sechel83Participantcan someone please explain to me simply whats wrong to beleive that the rebbe is moshiach, or alive?
does it contradict a pusuk, mishnah, gemarah, medrash, zohar?
anyone?
or its just something people dont like? i dont like mustered so someone who likes mustered is a goy? chas vishalomJune 6, 2023 11:28 am at 11:28 am in reply to: Chabad Inspires all Jews to Yearn for Mashiach #2196403sechel83Participantwhat about rav shach and rav aharon? torah says not to believe in more than one g-d!!!!
so if they are g-d ch”v, then you can only believe inn onesechel83Participantvery simple: the bnai torah spend years studying torah gemara, all the yeshiva and lomdishe misachtos, so even if they never learned or medrash or the agada of gemara, their intellect becomes automatically molded with daas torah, so whatever they think is emes, even if a gemara seemingly contradicts their daas torah, you have to answer the gemarah, not their holy daas torah, medrash? does avi ezri write a commentary on medrash? no, so why learn it.
sechel83Participantthese misnagdim (if they see the quote) wont even be able to read it they will think it says עצמות – bones cuz all they learns about in cows and meat,
dont get me wrong, learn shas baal peh all day etc. etc. but dont forget about פנימיות התורה.sechel83Participantinstead of hacking a tzinik and bringing stories why not just open a shulchan aruch – look in shulchan aruch harav hilchos talmud torah, there are different levels, in the begining of perek 3 he says
וכל מי שדעתו וכח זכרונו יפה, שיוכל ללמוד ולזכור כל התורה שבעל פה כולה, הרי זה לא ישא אשה עד שילמוד תחילה תורה שבעל פה כולה, שהן כל ההלכות בטעמיהן בדרך קצרה, שהן פירוש כל התרי”ג מצות בתנאיהן ודקדוקיהן ודקדוקי סופרים…….sechel83Participantfor those who want to check it up, its in shulchan aruch יורה דעה סימן רמו סעיף כא
it would be a good idea for the guys in bmg to learn hllchos talmud torah to see the way torah is meant to be studied in order that it shouldn’t be forgotten. many are able to learn כל התורה כולה before they get married like it says in shulchan aruch, or at least in the next few yrs but instead they spend a month on one blat gemarah learning every acharon, they hacking on every word, which even gedolim in the past generations like r’ shach spoke against.
sadly with this way of learning – torah is already forgotten.but the bigger problem is the culture that people feel pressured to stay in kolel even when they are just wasting their time
sechel83Participantthere is nothing wrong with going to work to supporrt your family, its actually a mitzvah. in shulchan aruch hilchos talmud torah it says someone who is able to work and instead learns torah and gets supprted from tzedaks is בזיון התורה. then there are those who stay in kolel just to look good and fit in, and dont even learn, just talk and talk, and hak a tzinik about politics, (i hope not worse). this idea is ridiculous.
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