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It’s time to define the term of “Modern Orthodox” in thr CR to avoid future misunderstandings.
lavdavka:
I feel the same way, but many people do like it when people come over and are them mekarev.
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BP Totty
I don’t inderstand your point. Are you trying to day that chassidishe bochurim are plain vanilla, don’t know much about the world and the yeshivish that go on dates are different?
BP Totty,
You have a wrong picture of the whole beshow proccess. A boy who keeps quiet will never make it. In today’s days it’s one of the worst things to do on a beshow. There is plenty of things to talk about. Ask anyone who went through it, including myself.
You said:
“IMHO, there is no substitute for going out on a real date. That way, you get to see how each party behaves over the course of an afternoon (dealing with traffic, driving manners, table manners, ect)”
Really now? As if people aren’t more formal on dates than by regular life, a few months after the wedding?
To build a true Toradige home is expected from every jew. Learning all day and not working, is not. Sow how can someone say that in order to build a toridige home one should learn all day?
To all the oot’s:
There are many people in brooklyn who stay in the city, including myself. I personally think that It doesn’t make sense for 8 weeks the husband and wife should’nt be together during the weekdays.
myfriend
While I agree that a full time learner has more of a chance to grow on a higher madreiga, as far as establishing a tora’tiga home a worker and a learner have the same chance.
WolfishMusings said:
Wrong group. That was Reuven and Dan.
The Wolf
It was also half of Shevet Menasha
Dr. Pepper said:
As far as being the only one to be a fool and not take money which “wasn’t intended” for them
I didn’t say that.
Dr. Pepper – How many kids does he have?
missme – I pay $3500 in a brooklyn chasidishe cheder, and it’s not the full price. section 8 is closed. I don’t see how it’s possible to live on a teachers income. I am still living in my 1 bedroom apt. because I can’t afford to pay $2000 rent a month with my job.
SJS – So you want someone to be the only fool and stop taking money from the goverment to reduce goverment spending?
Wolf said:
I’m not Chassidish.
The Wolf
So i can assume that you agree that chassidish means something.
WellInformedYid
I think I remember that Onaah is only when there is a set market price.
I find it hard to keep up Shabbos by day from after Haftora until the begining of Shmona Esra. Every week I wonder how everyone is ready to satrt together with the Chazan and I am the only one not ready.
We are all fellow jews with different labels. What’s wrong
It’s hard for me to beleive that you don’t understand my point.
If you don’t understand my answer then I didn’t understand your question. Please explain
different culture. speaking yiddish, mens levush, womens dress, age for shidduchim, bsho’s dates, differnt yeshiva’s, many times different derech halimud, women getting a degree the norm, I can go on and on. Of course not everything applies to everyone, but in general it sure gives you some picture of the way of life.
apushatayid
Imagine someone reading a shidduch to a Litvish(fellow yid) to a chassidish(fellow yid) and they go on a date and when afterwards they call the shadchan and say I told you I only want to go out with a ……I guess he should say a fellow yid.
smartcookie said:
“It is not just modern orthodox. Many Chassidish people do it too!(Surprise surprise!!)
Not everyone feels comfortable with it, but it aint assur. Sorry! I don’t do things that are assur!”
Is is definitely not a chassidishe thing to do!!! The fact that there are chassidishe people doing it doesn’t mean anything. There are some chassidishe people that don’t keep up to the standards.
SJSinNYC
Do the 2 schools have the same amount of students?
If the husband has hirhur then it’s forbidden.
in the days of Moshe Rabbeinu, a gentile king, having heard of his leading the Jewish nation out of Egypt, splitting the sea, receiving the Torah, etc. greatly desired to see how Moshe looked (there were no tabloids back then). It was beneath his dignity to journey into the desert to meet him, so he hired a skilled artist to study Moshe and ultimately paint his portrait. The artist spent many months until he was satisfied with his work and presented it to its commissioner. The king took one look at the picture, and gave the artist a slap across his face. “How dare you try to fool me! I am well versed in the reading of faces, and the picture you’ve painted is of a man who is of very poor character. Am I to believe this the great Moshe, who’s name is uttered with such reverence in all the world?” The artist, however, stuck by his story that this was indeed Moshe.
The king, intrigued, journeyed into the desert to behold Moshe’s countenance with his own eyes. To his shock, Moshe looked exactly as the artist had depicted him. He approached the great leader and expressed his surprise, based on his understanding of face-reading. “Why are you surprised?” asked Moshe simply. “Is this not the true test of man – to overcome his poor character and strive for greatness – not to be born into it?” (This story is quoted by Tiferes Yisrael [Kiddushin 4:77] and others. There is some disagreement as to its veracity [some say it was Aristotle and not Moshe [Midrash Eliyahu]). But for the most part the story is widely accepted [see Or P’nei Moshe (Chukas), Noam Ha-middos (88:2), P’ri Ha’aretz (Balak), et al.]) “
I stutter sometimes when i speak to people with wich i feel intimidated from, and when I have to say a story or explain something difficult. I think it has to do that i become nervous in these situations and I feel like I have to search for the correct words.
Thats the good part of the CR there is no stuttering.
cherrybim
There must be somethings New York has to offer which is not found OOT.
Which could be shidduchim, business and other reasons. It doesn’t reflect on the level of yiddishkeit.
I think that there are advantages and disadvantages for the city and for OOT for gashmius and for ruchnius.
I go on the train every day so I know it as a fact. I said most.
I’m just thinking out loud. Why do most men wear socks and are not bothered by the heat. In places where it’s very hot the men too don’t wear socks?
Someone (I don’t know his name) is on a roll today.
charliehall
“I have seen lots of calf length skirts every time I visit Flatbush or Boro Park.”
OK So now you understand the opening for this thread
My point was that frum means following taryag mitzvos and not only shabbos kashrus… I’ll let everyone decide each and every mitzva… BTW one of the 613 mitzvos is to follow d’rabannan
SJSinNYC
Obvouisly, I meant when and what is possible to fulfill
A person is required to follow 613 mitzvos. If someone is not following lekatchila 1 of the 613 mitzvos (knowing that it’s a mitzva) then that person is not frum. If someone is following all the mitzvos but is struggling with some of them and is working on them then that person is frum
AinOhdMilvado
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Many people are genetically predisposed to cholesterol problems. All the exercise, diet and vitamin/mineral changes in the world will not fix it
Should’ve said: many people are genetically predisposed to cholesterol problems when they are on a high carb low fat diet
Did you ever hear about metabolic syndrome which many doctors say is caused by eating to much carbs?
so what do you say to all the gedarim that were made by the chachamim?
The Nitra cookbook is excellent for beginners its full of basic easy recipies. My wife used it in the begining and it was very helpful.
Could someone here who is married for 5 years knowing their spouse as if now, say that they knew their spouse when they got ingaged because they were dating longer?
Thank you Feivel. I’ve been waiting a while for your inspiring comments.
there are some classes that for some reason are not seperate. This is what i heard a few years ago maybe by now it changed.
By the way some classes in touro college in flatbush have mechitzas
The Rabbis didn’t leave europe before the war and left everyone there, they only managed to ecscape during the war.
Joseph
You are making it sound as if the only way one can have a torah’diga home is if he learns full time.
I disagree. You could work full time and have a tora’diga home. Period.
areivimzehlazeh
When your comment was posted it wasn’t “currently”.maybe now it’s back until..
The Kotzker rebbe didn’t agree with the chadishei Horim
When there was a ????? in Poland to change the levush the chadishei Horim paskened yeherag val yavor.
$1500 is average some give more or less.